Medical Marijuana Patients Report Reduction In Use Of Prescription Drugs

Ron Strider

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Some medical marijuana patients in Illinois say the drug has allowed them to reduce or eliminate their use of other prescription medication, a new study reports.

The study by DePaul and Rush universities was small, with 30 participants, and involved only those who volunteered to respond to the topic, so researchers conceded the results might be biased in favor of marijuana. But it's believed to be the first peer-reviewed, published research of medical marijuana patients in Illinois.

And it provides direct anecdotal evidence of what has been suggested by previous studies, that marijuana may contribute to reduced use of opioid drugs, lead author Douglas Bruce said.

"One of the most compelling things to come out of this is that people are taking control of their own health, and most providers would agree that's a good thing," said Bruce, assistant professor of health sciences at DePaul. "But the lack of provider knowledge around what cannabis does and doesn't do, the difference in products and ingestion methods and dosing, is all kind of a Wild West."

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has declared opioid abuse an epidemic. Overdoses from prescription opioids like methadone, oxycodone and hydrocodone killed more than 15,000 people in 2015, and President Donald Trump called it a "national emergency."

And the study results come as the Medical Cannabis Alliance of Illinois, a trade group of growers and sellers, is starting a push for legislation allowing marijuana for any condition for which a doctor would give opioid drugs.

"This study confirms exactly what we know from patients," said alliance Chairman Ross Morreale. He also founded Ataraxia, which runs a cultivation center and a dispensary. "A patient could use both (marijuana and prescription drugs) and see what works – that's between the doctor and the patient."

But Kevin Sabet, a former White House adviser on drug policy who now runs Smart Approaches to Marijuana, which opposes broad legalization of medical marijuana, said the study "reeks of problems."

"One of the worst I've seen in a while," he said via email. "It was an uncontrolled observation of 30 people who were mixing pot with other drugs."

Since marijuana contains numerous compounds, some of which have medicinal properties, Sabet said they should be isolated, tested and approved individually through the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, like any other legal drug.

Bruce, the study's lead author, responded that Sabet has his own bias against marijuana.

"There's power in people telling their stories in a way you can't get in a survey," Bruce said. "It's important to do qualitative research to understand how people are using cannabis, then figure out how to measure it."

Illinois is one of 29 states that have legalized medical marijuana, despite a federal prohibition on the drug.

About 25,000 people have been certified as having at least one of about 40 serious medical conditions that qualify them to receive medical cannabis in Illinois. Patients bought about $8 million worth of marijuana in August, the most recent month reported by the state.

The most common conditions for which cannabis was certified were fibromyalgia and cancer, the Illinois Department of Public Health reported. Those were followed by post-traumatic stress disorder, which was just added to the list of qualifying conditions last year.

In the DePaul-Rush study, the average age of participants was 45 and typically used marijuana to treat pain, seizures or inflammation.

The patients, who were anonymous, reported concerns about side effects, addiction and tolerance with prescription drugs, and said they believed marijuana managed certain symptoms better and was faster-acting and longer-lasting.

The researchers concluded that more patient study is needed to determine what doses relieve symptoms and to assess patients' medical conditions.

One medical cannabis patient who did not participate in the study but said she used marijuana to get off prescription drugs was Shea Evans, 26, of Chicago, who works for Modern Cannabis dispensary in Chicago.

Evans said she was diagnosed with lupus and fibromyalgia in 2011, was prescribed a fleet of 18 drugs, including opioids and sleeping pills, and within a year developed a dangerous dependency on painkillers such as Percocet.

"Medical cannabis is the reason I'm opiate free now," Evans said. "It really gave me my life back and makes my pain manageable, without inebriating me or forming another dependence."

Study participants quoted in the report struck a common theme in their deep dissatisfaction with many of their prescription medications. One 58-year-old man called the side effects of his seizure medicine "frightening to say the least. I would not like the way I felt taking it."

One patient said she used to take 180 Vicodin a month. Another took ibuprofen by the hundreds over time. A woman with HIV and cancer said marijuana was helping her after years of trying to get off the anti-inflammatory prednisone.

And a 33-year-old woman with multiple sclerosis said marijuana helped relieve "unbearable" pain to let her sleep, in contrast to her prescription medicine, which made her feel like a "zombie."

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Study this;
120 mg/day oxycodone.
60 mg/day MS Contin...all compound isolate nightmares, I,have come to learn..nick of time
350 mg/ day soma 350 mg.
1/2 and 1/2 over four years, Valium 20/mg/day..changed to 600 mg/day gabapetin..worst nightmare..cns withdrawal......twice..

So from May to August 2017 all that compounded medicine was cut by 75%. At first, as I,increased cannabis intake, first just forgot to,take. Then actively tried to reduce, as low a dose as possible as soon as possible..

Going to zero dose. It takes 3-7 days to know if the last dose, was in fact your last dose and you went to zero.
Meaning, if you get super sick, warm bath ain't it, excercise..nada..you take a tiny fractional dose.dont take too much too soon. Take a little and wait..another 3-7 days.

By the time you try to go to zero, cannabis ceases to change things. Recalling , consuming 50-200 mg thc/Cbd,CCO,with coconut oil base, inside chocolate delivery . I know that oil, brought medicine where it was needed. I made brownie/made snicker doodle..ok fun..body did nit crave. Didn't repeat. Qwet CCO $ hot oil above hot water extract, both caused craving for more...causing less pain..by huge factors..
I think with edible CCO,in time you saturate or completely fill available 'space' for more CCO. You can see it in the toilet..sorry but true for me.. oil stain in toilet..mid August..so taking any more was a waste. Also body was driven to take all that stuff to zero dose, one by one. Then extending time, 6, 8, 10, 12 hours between. Then 16, 18, 24 hours apart. Not staying at any dose for any time. Past 24 hour dose, you are in stage 1.o withdrawal..
Followed by stage 1.1, 1.x. I only had 1.o, 1.1, then withdrawal stage 2.0 once this happens, time for.microdose.same poison your body is sick from...stage 2.o comes with warning ⚠️ but you cannot stay there..I couldn't, didn't need to. Just kept stretching time..24, 36, 48, 50, 52..repeat, dose..36, 48,72,96..
Free as a bird at about 96 hours post dose. Each time any one drug "goes to zero"

Since this process is nauseating, I figure then go to zero as fast as reasonably possible. Tomorrow or now!
What is offere is diversion to suboxone, opioid and naloxocone together. Nalox is a protagonist to opioids /opiates. How sick is that?
So, there's certainly no study using the ray Charles, lock your self up. And go cold turkey method. There not ever going to be a study, since frankly it to tricky...
;-]...

So, 2-7 days after last dose of last of the many pill types went to zero, you feel the thc effects inside you. You feel the damaged area more clearly. No compound,s, in ya means your gut is alive. Your cock is alive. Brain moves fast.
A bunch of odd sensations, all amazingly good.

Post 'zero'.....plus post impact on your life. I was nearly dead . 18-9 months ago..
Relearning eating pattern, sleep, excercise...since all that is intertwined with cooking..qwet...CCO oil extract..
Red wine and curing harvest go together like pb&j. Float semi cure, fresh harvest about 100 mg -300 mg. 1 -3 small buds, into red wine.press on it. Let sit..5-15 minutes..greeks used for child bearing meds...right on..
Similar process, loose tea pot. Good tea. 160 f water, not ragging boil . 100-300mg bud added to tea clump. I just added....pour red wine, tiny amount on top of buds.let sit.5-7 minutes.not too long tea get too strong after 6-10 minute steep.leaf appears wiped clean of nearly all thc pods. Easy to see.

I do notice my cooking food skill has improved. I use the same mindset to make meal , as qwet or slow CCO extract. All similar process..

Affinity for langauge.if you spoke some.you may speak way more.i did..

Thank you 420 and all my people that helped me heal, to live again. Eat food...

LVMarc.... has reported exactly what his study revealed to us.
Many of you corresponded with me during the landing to zero. 'To Much good thing. Even cannabis. Ya need a break'''' ..how true.
 
We really need some concrete proof and proper research done by agencies the government approves of, so that the benefits of medical marijuana can be confirmed by them too. Its the only way to show people to remove people preconceived notions and bias!
 
Really , you entrust government agencies? Same ones that allowed humans to consume OXYCODONE/?
The agency tested it. Another approved its use. Yet another enables widespread distribution..
Wanna re think .’I want government agency,ie bureaucracy, to do...” what?
 
One thing other then ha ha ha it was my doctor that cut me down pain meds work for me. What I really feel is trapped with Jeff Sessions going after both opioids and marijuana
 
Needle.....commercials on tv for class action against oxycodone....something....
Means the following;
Oxycodone will,be the next drug war. It will be removed for insurance, formulary, and general use.
One way or another.
Anyone on it, may as well wean and taper.. you,go,to no medicine on your own...
A criminal sweep will,be,concurrent with the rapid removal of oxycodone for,USA,formulary,,
Lawsuit against “Purdue “ ...lol the old man just passed away..may he burn in hell.forever..Bernie “Bernard “ Purdue.
Medicianal dosing helps with opioid and t;he rest , withdrawal.
Post withdrawal cannabis help,with re-integration..strive for some -statis...
Forget,j session....worry about yourself Mp
 
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