Decarb Question

[smoke99]

I find myself in possession of my recent harvest
I make my own tincture, quite successfully so far
but I have been working with dispensary weed up until now
which brings me to my current brain teaser
to decarb WHOLE buds, or shredded and
which will actually produce the best tincture in the long run

I am of a minimum of Two Minds on this,
1. I have been grinding and decarbing low an slow and it works, why change it
2. this is home grown, not commercially shaken to death to remove the kief to sell off seperately
and in my opinion, some mighty fine looking buds. Just like flavored moonshine where they add whole chunks of
fruit, I am pondering decarbing some nuggets and letting them soak a while.

 

[Nunyabiz]

What i do is break up buds almost to the point of joint rolling size.
Put an ounce in a mason jar seal the lid and decarb in the jar at 225 degrees for 70 minutes.
Leave in jar until cool and it vacuum seals then I put that in freezer overnight and make oil the next day

 

[smoke99]

not making oils
I make a alcohol based tincture
just contemplating possibilities

 

[Nunyabiz]

Same thing, strong tincture is what I make which is oil and just leave a tiny amount of alcohol in it.

 

[smoke99]

yeah, I understand what you are saying but by calling it oil
it opens up a whole different discussion in here
but I grasp what you are saying, even read sweet sue's how to on making them
and reducing till the thickness and strength desired was reached.
what does the freezing accomplish compared to just pouring the mass in a jar
I have been using a apple flavored bourbon for the last few batches mostly
because I really enjoy the flavor of it compared to the crap the
dispensaries are selling with the glycerin it just taste like ashtrays to me

 

[Nunyabiz]

You want the highest proof you can get, I use 200 proof Extractahol.
I freeze the bud and alcohol so less chlorophyll and such gets extracted.

 

[skirk]

Because ethanol is such an efficient solvent and stripping of trichomes to as much as 95% can be done in as little as 15 minutes using cold ethanol, you want larger particle sizes to leave cellular structures intact and avoid unwanted chlorophyll and plant waxes. Do not grind.

 

[smoke99]

Because ethanol is such an efficient solvent and stripping of trichomes to as much as 95% can be done in as little as 15 minutes using cold ethanol, you want larger particle sizes to leave cellular structures intact and avoid unwanted chlorophyll and plant waxes. Do not grind.

So would solid buds work well like this?

 

[skirk]

Solid buds work extremely well. I contain the decarbed buds in rosin press bags and let drip dry. No straining or filtration necessary. Simply reduce and enjoy.

 

[smoke99]

What micron on the bags? 160ish?

 

[skirk]

What micron on the bags? 160ish?

250

 

[smoke99]

Close enough have some 220 coming figured bigger was better if I'm gonna get the heads of the trichromes to fit through

 

[parnelli]

Just made some tincture with 10 grams bud and 175ml of Mississippi Moonshine - a 4 week wait 'til the tasting

 

[smoke99]

4 weeks
Why

 

[parnelli]

Everything I've read says the longer you wait, the more potent the tincture. It could be ready almost after you infuse the ground bud with alcohol - all you need to do is mix, shake it for 3 minutes, and its buzz time! I'm going for the hi-octane stuff . BTW: this is the first time I'm giving this a try so what the hell do I know. I did grind and decarb - I'm hoping for a minimal "plant" taste.

 

[parnelli]

Hey Skirk - when you say reduce do you heat the tincture to evaporate/boil off the alcohol?

 

[skirk]

Hey Skirk - when you say reduce do you heat the tincture to evaporate/boil off the alcohol?

Because I use tincture/oil daily, I reduce and reclaim the Everclear with the Source Turbo. Were I a casual user I would just evaporate off. It doesn't take long and I'm not qualified to mess with explosive fumes.

 

[smoke99]

 

[smoke99]

That's weight decarbed 110 for 110.
Its high tea at 420 which is 15 minutes from the time I posted the pictures

 

[skirk]

@smoke99, I should have mentioned I double bag the decarbed bud to completely contain and shake vigorously over a 2-4 hour period. 15 minutes is a minimum. I apologise for not being concise.