Experienced help with Australian push for legalization

[Besmirched1]

Hey everyone,

Down here in the wonderful land of OZ we are just on the cusp of entering legalization realms.
Just wondering if our friends overseas have any advice, precedents, scientific data research etc to back Senate enquires being pushed in our favour rather than government agency control. Which is what we might be staring down the barrel of.

Any and all help would be appreciated.

Yours in solidarity.

Besmisched1.

 

[Cannabro]

Following this thread mate

 

[Besmirched1]

Hey Cannabro, cheers can u post the title or link please.

 

[Besmirched1]

Lol too ripped missread what was written. See proof we need help lol.

 

[Besmirched1]

On a side thought dies anyone know of or have experience with Commons law and how that would work in a push for law reform?

Any and all thoughts on these cannabis law reform issues we are and will be facing would be VERY much appreciated.

### Also any and all contributions as im thinking a template letter with option to place personal experiences etc might be a help for us?

### How did proactive action work in USA? Not only in the first instance but as things progressed? Do we need as individuals to form an action group?

 

[Cannabro]

All g homie. Yeh im interested in activism and law reform especially for medicinal purposes and thats not limited to the terminally ill only (ie anxiety, depression, seizures, etc, etc, ) . Albeit im so happy were progressing and they now finally get it, well limited amounts have.... Go the Greens btw they'll get my vote haha. Word. Following to see if I can contribute and also be educated as I know nothing about politics but im passionate about this.. Peace bro

 

[Besmirched1]

That's all we need mate, people who are passionate.

 

[Besmirched1]

Found this, this morning.

Just Legalise It: An Interview with Australian Greens Leader Richard Di Natale

 

[Besmirched1]

Drug Law Reform

Greens campaign for legalisation. GET ON IT!!!!!!

 

[Besmirched1]

Some info on where QLD seems to be on cannabis at the moment.

So Friday night a friend got stopped for random licence/breath/swab test. Indicated test was negative but they searched and found half an oz.

He had to go today and give finger prints and DNA.
Why the DNA? I know that this links in with targeted persons, profiling, data retention and facial recognition.
Considering our intelligence agencies can't keep filing cabinets from being sold at auction, how can we trust that this DNA isn't being treated the same way?


Anyway just some personal experience of where it's at right now.

 

[Besmirched1]

Thoughts on wording for a submission as a standard letter on cannabis/drug reform in Australia.

Wow that was long winded.

Okies going to find that mind spark bud I have lying around, need to get focused.

Will update shortly, I think. Any ideas wants or feelings on this will help, I would like this to be collective and inclusive, but am happy to take this on solo.

Right brb.

 

[Besmirched1]

To the Honorable members of the Australian Parliament.

We as Australian citizens, holding the inalienable right to vote and the freedoms that a democratic society uphold wish to convey our thoughts and ideas for the current legislation on drug refom, specifically the uses of medicinal marijuana both sanctioned by medical professionals and self aware medicating.

1. We don't condone the use of cannabis for underage use, unless medically specified. Need reference for pre 16 years brain and effects.

2. We condone the right to choose our medication, the way it is grown, harvested, dried and all other associated methods used in the uses of cannabis.

3 we understand and realise the need for controls and laws regarding the sale, tax and structure of an authority', but we also realise the difficulties that lie in blanket control.
Need reference to law reform control etc.

4. What we don't want is...

Lots of thoughts on this one but can't coagulate without sounding..
Ah incorrect yet.

Please any brain farts that come to mind will help.

OK so off to read the Greens policy and come back.

 

[Besmirched1]

Well it's 730 am and I'm wondering where all the activists are hiding?

Here the Greens policy on marijuana

Printed and authorised by Senator Richard Di Natale, Parliament House Canberra ACT 2600. Page 1 of 2
> CANNABIS PROHIBITION HAS FAILED
Every year in Australia, both the consumption of cannabis and
arrests associated with its use continue to rise. 35% of
Australians have used cannabis,
1 and according to the latest
statistics from the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission,
cannabis accounts for the greatest proportion of illicit drug
arrests across Australia – rising 6% from 75,105 in 2014–15 to a
record 79,643 in 2015–16.2 These statistics show that, despite
the current illegality of cannabis, Australians choose to use it.
The reality of this choice is that millions of Australians are
forced to buy cannabis of unknown quality or strength from
criminal drug dealers, or grow cannabis plants at home illegally.
Creating a regulated legal market for cannabis – as many states
of the US, Uruguay (and soon Canada) have done – would bust
the business model of criminal drug dealers, ensure greater
protections for vulnerable cannabis users, and allow for the
revenue and the current vast expenditure on the criminal
response to cannabis to be redirected to drug treatment,
education, and other harm reduction programs.
> HARMS OF CANNABIS PROHIBITION
Criminalisation of the production and use of cannabis has led to
multiple harms, including:
- People convicted of drug use being forced to live with
criminal records – a disproportionately severe punishment
that can impede future job opportunities – the burden of
which often hits hardest on already vulnerable groups;
1 Australian Institute of Health and Welfare, National Drug Strategy
Household Survey 2016: detailed findings.
2 Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission, Illicit Drug Data Report
2015-16, p. 69.

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Home page on the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare website

www.aihw.gov.au

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- Interaction with criminal dealers rather than trained
professionals in safe, regulated outlets is putting people at
risk and meaning the cannabis products they purchase are
of unknown strength and quality;
- Funds directed into ineffective law enforcement responses
to drug use, rather than drug education and health services;
and
- The criminal market for cannabis has led to more harmful
strains which contain high levels of THC
(tetrahydrocannabinol) and low CBD (cannabidiol).
> INTERNATIONAL EXPERIENCE AND
SUPPORT AT HOME
While this would be a significant reform in Australia, we are
playing catch up with other countries around the world that
have moved to legalise cannabis.
In the USA, nine states (Alaska, California, Colorado, Maine,
Massachusetts, Nevada, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington) as
well as the District of Columbia have moved to legalise cannabis.
Legal cannabis is available in Spain and Uruguay3 and in our own
region, the New Zealand Prime Minister has agreed to a
referendum on cannabis legalisation.
In Uruguay, early data shows that drug-related crime has
dropped 20% since cannabis became legal since July 2017.5
Early evidence from the US appears to point to a reduction in
alcohol consumption, violent crime and a reduction in
prescription opiate overdoses.6
https://www.ontario.ca/page/cannabis-legalization
The Entrepreneur ‘Uruguay Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Rate
Has Plummeted’, 6 Feb 2018.
Uruguay Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Rate Has Plummetted
Journal of Economic Behavior & Organization, ‘Crime and the
legalization of recreational, 20 Feb 2018
LET’S GET REAL ABOUT DRUGS
Cannabis: Just legalise it
Regulating cannabis to reduce harm
We need to get real about cannabis. Countries all around the world are
realising that prohibition causes more harm than it prevents, and are moving
to develop a regulated legal market. With 35% of Australians having used
cannabis, it’s time we listened to health experts and joined those countries.
The Australian Greens would redefine cannabis as a legal substance for adult
use in a tightly regulated market, to reduce harm, increase protections for
vulnerable populations, and redirect resources into treatment.

 

[Besmirched1]

Scepticism surrounds testing drivers for drugs

NZ radio interview with CEO of drug detection, mentions our issues here in Australia and points to the false positive testing taking place.
Well might have to search for that FOI on inaccurate testing.

 

[Besmirched1]

How Close Are We to Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition?

 

[Besmirched1]

Please people any thoughts on what it where you want this legislation to go.

I am not out to argure, be nasty, denigrate or discriminate, I purely want to help this law along and have our opinions heard and listened to maybe even taken into account.

So I implore you even if you aren't political and don't want to discuss anything
Leave your thoughts and when writing an open letter I will endeavor to word it so everyone's wants are stated it a few standard letters expressing differing values etc.

 

[Besmirched1]

Well people wonders will never cease. A bill introduced Wednesday for full recreational use with NO TAX. WOOT WOOT WOOT if it gets through.

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• Besmirched1
• May 12, 2018

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Liberal Democrats senator David Leyonhjelm introduced a private member's bill on Wednesday that would remove federal restrictions on marijuana and let the states and territories legalise the drug.
'Adults should be free to make their own choices, as long as they do not harm others,' he told Parliament House in Canberra.
The Sydney-based federal lawmaker wants to overturn prohibitions on growing or possessing cannabis, after several U.S. states including California and Colorado recently allowed people to buy marijuana for personal use.
However, he wants legalised marijuana to be sold without being taxed.
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Liberal Democrats senator David Leyonhjelm introduced the bill to legalise recreational marijuana
The New South Wales minor-party senator has been a long-time supporter of recreational cannabis as a libertarian who also champions free speech, lower taxes and unwinding gun control.
Senator Leyonhjelm previously supported the Greens' plan last month to make the drug legal in the face of bans in every state and territory.
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In March, a Victorian parliamentary Inquiry Into Drug Law Reform called for recreational marijuana use to be legalised, after MPs on the committee visited Colorado and California, where it is legal to get high on cannabis.
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However, Senator Leyonhjelm is opposed to excise being levied on legalised marijuana.
'The bill does not introduce a cannabis tax. Existing alcohol and tobacco taxes are not sound policy and should not be replicated,' he told parliament on Wednesday.
Possessing marijuana is illegal in every state and territory.
However in South Australia and the Australian Capital Territory, offenders caught with small amounts of cannabis pay a fine and avoid criminal charges.
In other Australian states, repeat offenders are charged after cautions and treatment programs fail.
In the United States, Colorado allows people aged 21 or older to grow and carry 28 grams of cannabis.
California this year allowed adults to buy a similar quantity of marijuana for personal use.
Both major parties in Australia and One Nation support medicinal cannabis however they have drawn the line at recreational marijuana use.
Liberal Democrats senator David Leyonhjelm introduced a private member's bill on Wednesday that would remove federal restrictions on marijuana and let the states and territories legalise the drug.
'Adults should be free to make their own choices, as long as they do not harm others,' he told Parliament House in Canberra.
The Sydney-based federal lawmaker wants to overturn prohibitions on growing or possessing cannabis, after several U.S. states including California and Colorado recently allowed people to buy marijuana for personal use.
However, he wants legalised marijuana to be sold without being taxed.
Scroll down for video

Liberal Democrats senator David Leyonhjelm introduced the bill to legalise recreational marijuana
The New South Wales minor-party senator has been a long-time supporter of recreational cannabis as a libertarian who also champions free speech, lower taxes and unwinding gun control.
Senator Leyonhjelm previously supported the Greens' plan last month to make the drug legal in the face of bans in every state and territory.
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In March, a Victorian parliamentary Inquiry Into Drug Law Reform called for recreational marijuana use to be legalised, after MPs on the committee visited Colorado and California, where it is legal to get high on cannabis.
They argued a sales tax could be levied on marijuana if it was legalised, and explored how cannabis could be regulated so it had child-proof packaging and was only available for sale to adults.

Mr Leyonhjelm previously supported the Greens' plan last month to make the drug legal (stock)

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However, Senator Leyonhjelm is opposed to excise being levied on legalised marijuana.
'The bill does not introduce a cannabis tax. Existing alcohol and tobacco taxes are not sound policy and should not be replicated,' he told parliament on Wednesday.
Possessing marijuana is illegal in every state and territory.
However in South Australia and the Australian Capital Territory, offenders caught with small amounts of cannabis pay a fine and avoid criminal charges.
In other Australian states, repeat offenders are charged after cautions and treatment programs fail.
In the United States, Colorado allows people aged 21 or older to grow and carry 28 grams of cannabis.
California this year allowed adults to buy a similar quantity of marijuana for personal use.
Both major parties in Australia and One Nation support medicinal cannabis however they have drawn the line at recreational marijuana use.

 

[Besmirched1]

#yeswecannabis

 

[Besmirched1]

Hey guys,
Went searching for qualifications in the cannabis industry here in Australia.
There are 2 new Certificates that have been created. A cert 3 mainly aimed at growing side, and this one aimed at more management. Interestingly neither have registered training organisations (RTO) giving these courses.
Keep in mind that this is directly from the government training website.




AHC42320 - Certificate IV in Medicinal Cannabis Cultivation and Production (Release 1)



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[Phytoplankton]

My few suggestions are these. Start slow, you have your best chances by starting with medical marijuana first. Let the population/politicians chew on that for a while, then you go for the recreational legalization. That’s the way it went down in California, and several other states. The other thing I might suggest is that you start by trying to get a territory (state?, not sure how Australia is set up) to legalize it, before trying to get the entire country all at once. In the US, the Federal government still hasn’t legalized it, but numerous states have. If you had told me 30 years ago that recreational use of marijuana would be legalized, I’d of laughed, but here we are. Best of luck!!!