Organic Nutrient List

[TheGreenGlove]

Does homemade compost due the trick? Just veggies and yard waste?

yes but dont add them directly to your media unless they've been composting for months, wastse not properly composted has bas bacterias in it that will destroy microbial life

 

[Yblaster2k]

What's a good mix to start me seeds with?

 

[Conradino23]

Organic garden compost

 

[TheGreenGlove]

I stuck a couple of hundred in 4 2.5 gallon containers and the next morning I had dried up worms all over my grow room. They stink up the place if you don't find em all. LOL

they did that because you are using to many synthetic nutes, trying keeping it simple

 

[The303Stoner]

What's a good mix to start me seeds with?

Anything at the garden shop that says seed starter and is more than 6 bucks a bag

 

[TheGreenGlove]

try sunshine mix its the simplest to go into and has plenty of beneficials it comes in bales, the after youve rooted in a small amount of soil give them something like a compost of ocean forest by foxfarm is always my choice. be careful to much and you burn your shit up, this soil is really hott due to the organic decomposition.

 

[BigBudAl]

Great thread. Excellent info

 

[bassclef]

Right on. Next time I brew a big batch...maybe tonight...I will wait till I see the foam then add some molasses. It usually takes 10-12 hours before it ever gets to that point.

On another note, I do not like to use worm castings in my teas in the summer (AZ) due to smell, It can stink like raw sewage bubbling away in the heat. I have really turned to bat guanos for the basis of my teas. I like to mix some Peace-of-Mind dry ferts in there as well. Usually the yard formula 8-2-6 and the fruit and flower 5-8-4. I believe in bio-diversity with the organic nutes.

I know this post is 5 years old, but I wanted to add some information on "stinking compost tea." If your tea is stinking you're not breeding the good fungi and microbial life you want. Stinky tea is the sign that you're breeding anaerobic life. My worm casting tea smells like the molasses I put it in it. If you're not giving them enough food and getting crazy amounts of foam, that's your issue. The life you're looking for is dieing off and anaerobic life(stinky bacteria) is taking over.

In this post given its AZ in the summer, heat is probably the reason his tea is going bad. You want your tea to be 70-80f to form the microbial life you're looking for. That is the sweet spot.

My rule of thumb just like any compost I make is.. If it stinks, its not right, throw it out and start over.

 

[jst1376]

what does PSG mean?

 

[fitty scents]

I spilled my humid acid bag in a new sub cool mix that I had already mixed..Probably 2-3 cups in a complete mix...How will this affect my soil
I'm a newly and hoping it is still usable..can't afford to start over..Thanks for any help

 

[Ancient3328]

Fantastic thread!

 

[Ozinugs]

Great info, thanks for sharing.

 

[Joeydrumstix]

Hey guys not sure if I'm posting this in the correct thread I'm new here. I've got a basic closet grow one plant in a 1 gallon pot. I just bought some foxfarm big Bloom as I'm now entering the third week of flowering and I want to give it some flowering nutrients. I water with about half a gallon of filtered water every 3 days or so it says on the feeding chart if I'm reading this correctly that I should give it about 1 tbsp per gallon does that sound correct?

 

[bobrown14]

How handy are you at up-potting? I'd go up to a 3gal pot with some of that soil you're using and see how she does.

If you have any ewc add some to the mix and kelp meal if you have some.

Sorry I can't help with chemical fertilizers. My advice on them is to step back away from the bottles and save some $$ and head-ache.

I think beginning growers should grow a plant in nothing but soil first. Then up your game to bottles if that's your thing.

There's a learning curve with chemical fertilizers.

In soil the plant and the soil microbes are in charge and if you LITFA the plant will grow out to finish line with a sack or 2 of mighty fine nugs. Just my experience.

I'm sure there are others that do things different.

Welcome to 420mag, great place with lots of help for all sorts of grow styles.


I'm somewhat biased toward organic soil. TIFWIW.

 

[Conradino23]

Hey guys not sure if I'm posting this in the correct thread I'm new here. I've got a basic closet grow one plant in a 1 gallon pot. I just bought some foxfarm big Bloom as I'm now entering the third week of flowering and I want to give it some flowering nutrients. I water with about half a gallon of filtered water every 3 days or so it says on the feeding chart if I'm reading this correctly that I should give it about 1 tbsp per gallon does that sound correct?

It's a very light solution, so you can't go wrong with one tbs per gallon.

 

[Dankman_420]

 

[GrowGirl63]

Organic Nutrient List

This is a list of Organic nutrients obtained from the Marijuana Cultivation Bible.

Enjoy.

Organic Nutrient Chart

Manures

I did not see this one listed above in the manures....

Goat Manure (0.7-0.3-0.9)
It can be treated in a similar fashion to sheep dung or horse manure. It is usually fairly dry and rich and is a "hot" manure (therefore best composted before use).

 

[TSB]

Organic Nutrient List

This is a list of Organic nutrients obtained from the Marijuana Cultivation Bible.

Enjoy.

Organic Nutrient Chart

Manures

Rabbit manure N= 2.4 P= 1.4 K= 0.6
comments- Most concentrated of animal manures in fresh form.

Cow manure (dairy) N= 0.6 P= 0.2 K= 0.5
comments- Often contains weed seeds, should be hot composted.

Steer manure N= 0.7 P= 0.3 K= 0.4
comments- Often contains weed seeds, should be hot composted if fresh.

Chicken manure N= 1.1 P= 0.8 K= 0.5
comments- Fast acting, breaks down quickest of all manures. Use carefully, may burn. Also, stinks like hell - composting definitely recommended.

Horse manure N= 0.7 P= 0.3 K= 0.6
comments- Medium breakdown time.

Duck manure N= 0.6 P= 1.4 K= 0.5

Sheep manure N= 0.7 P= 0.3 K= 0.9

Worm castings N= 0.5 P= 0.5 K= 0.3
comments- 50% organic material plus 11 trace minerals. Great for seedlings, will not burn. Is a form of compost, so doesn't need composting.

Desert Bat Guano N= 8 P= 4 K= 1
comments- Also contains trace elements. Fast-acting, mix in soil or as tea (1 C guano to 5 gal. water).

Cave Bat Guano N= 3 P= 10 K= 1

Fossilized Seabird Guano N= 1 P= 10 K= 1
comments- Slow release over 3 to 12 weeks, best used as an addition to potting mix.

Peruvian Seabird Guano (pelletized) N= 12 P= 12 K= 2.5
comments- Legendary fertilizer of the Incas. Use in soil as a long lasting fertilizer, or make into tea (1 tsp pellets to 1 gallon water).

Note: it is recommended to first compost any fresh manure before you use it for 2 reasons:

1. to lessen the chance of harmful pathogens.
2. to break down the manure to make it more usable to the plant (and reduce the smell!)

The rates for pig or human manure are not listed because of the high rate of harmful pathogens they contain.

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Organic Meals

Blood Meal N= 11 P= 0 K= 0
comments- Highest N of all organic sources, very fast acting if made into tea.

Bone Meal (steamed) N= 1 P= 11 K= 0
comments- Releases nutrients slowly. Caution: European farmers should not use because of the risk of spreading Mad Cow Disease; growers elsewhere may face the same issue.

Cottonseed Meal N= 6 P= 2.5 K= 1.5
comments- If farming organically, check the source. May be heavily treated with pesticides.

Fish Scrap N= 5 P= 3 K= 3
comments- Use in compost or work in soil several months before using. Usually slightly alkaline.

Fish Emulsion N= 4 P= 1 K= 1
comments- Also adds 5% sulfur. Good N source for seedlings, won't burn.

Kelp Meal N= 1 P= 0.5 K= 2.5
comments- Provides 60 trace elements, plus growth-promoting hormones and enzymes.

Soybean Meal N= 7 P= 0.5 K= 2.5
comments- None

Coffee Grounds N= 2 P= 0.3 K= 0.2
comments- Highly acidic, best for use in alkaline soils.

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Minerals

Greensand N= 0 P= 1.5 K= 7
comments- Mined from old ocean deposits; used as soil conditioner; it holds water and is high in iron, magnesium, and silica - 32 trace minerals in all.

Eggshells N= 1.2 P= 0.4 K= 0.1
comments- Contais calcium plus trace minerals. Dry first, then grind to powder.

Limestone (dolomitic) N= 0 P= 0 K= 0
comments- Raises pH, 51% calcium and 40% magnesium.

Limestone (calcitic) N= 0 P= 0 K= 0
comments- Raises pH, 65-80% calcium, 3-15% magnesium.

Crustacean Shells N= 4.6 P= 3.52 K= 0
comments- Contain large amounts of lime. Should be ground as finely as possible for best results.

Wood Ashes N= 0 P= 1.5 K= 7
comments- Very fast acting and highly alkaline (usually used to raise pH). Contains many micronutrients.

Crushed Granite N= 0 P= 0 K= 5
comments- Contains 67% silicas and 19 trace minerals. Slow release over a long period of time.

Rock Phosphate N= 0 P= 3 K= 0
comments- Contains 11 trace minerals. Slow release over a long period of time.

Epsom Salts N= 0 P= 0 K= 0
comments- Provides Mg and acts as a balancer.

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Soil Amendments and Organic Material

Cornstalks N= 0.75 P= 0.4 K= 0.9
comments- Break down slowly; excellent soil conditioner. Should be shredded.

Oak Leaves N= 0.8 P= 0.35 K= 0.15
comments- Break down slowly, shred for best results. Good soil conditioner.

Feathers N= 15 P= 0 K= 0
comments- Chop or shred finely for best results.

Hair N= 14 P= 0 K= 0
comments- Good soil conditioner, oils break down slowly. Chop or shred finely for best results.

Sources include: Rodale Encyclopedia of Organic Gardening, The Deluxe Marijuana Growers Guide (Frank and Rosenthal)

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Organic Fertilizers - Composition

Organic soil composition involves creating a soil medium that has a balanced amount of nutrients - NPK as well as trace elements and minerals - plus organic material that provides food for not only the plant, but also the countless soil microorganisms, fungi, worms, and bacteria that comprise a healthy soil. This soil life breaks down the raw materials of the fertilizers you add so the plants can absorb them, and also plays a part in as-yet undefined processes that aid plant growth and improve soil health.

Below are various "recipes" for both organic fertilizers and organic soil mixes.

Mix and match formulas

Pick one source from each category. The results will vary in composition from 1-2-1 to 4-6-3, but any mixture will provide a balanced supply of nutrients that will be steadily available to plants and encourage soil microorganisms.

Nitrogen

* 2 parts blood meal
* 3 parts fish meal

Phosporous

* 3 parts bone meal
* 6 parts rock phosphate or colloidal phosphate

Potassium

* 1 part kelp meal
* 6 parts greensand

source: Rodale Encyclopedia of Organic Gardening

More Organic Fertilizer Mixes

2 - 3.5 - 2.5

* 1 part bone meal
* 3 parts alfalfa hay
* 2 parts greensand

2 - 4 - 2

* 4 parts coffee grounds
* 1 part bone meal
* 1 part wood ashes

2 - 4 - 2

* 1 part leather dust
* 1 part bone meal
* 3 parts granite dust

2 - 8 - 2

* 3 parts greensand
* 2 parts seaweed
* 1 part dried blood
* 2 parts phosphate rock

2 - 13 - 2.5

* 1 part cottonseed meal
* 2 parts phosphate rock
* 2 parts seaweed

3.5 - 5.5 - 3.5

* 2 parts cottonseed meal
* 1 part colloidal phosphate
* 2 parts granite dust

2.5 - 6 - 5

* 1 part dried blood
* 1 part phosphate rock
* 4 parts wood ashes

0 - 5 - 4

* 1 part phosphate rock
* 3 parts greensand
* 2 parts wood ashes

3 - 6 - 3

* 1 part leather dust
* 1 part phosphate rock
* 3 parts seaweed

3 - 7 - 5

* 1 part dried blood
* 1 part phosphate rock
* 3 parts wood ashes

3 - 8 - 5

* 1 part leather dust
* 1 part phosphate rock
* 1 part fish scrap
* 4 parts wood ashes

2.5 - 2.5 - 4

* 3 parts granite dust
* 1 part dried blood
* 1 part bone meal
* 5 parts seaweed

4 - 5 - 4

* 2 parts dried blood
* 1 part phosphate rock
* 4 parts wood ashes

6 - 8 - 3

* 2 parts fish scrap
* 2 parts dried blood
* 1 part cottonseed meal
* 1 part wood ashes
* 1 part phosphate rock
* 1 part granite dust


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Herbal Tea Plant Food

* 1 t Comfrey leaves
* 1 t Alfalfa leaves
* 1 t Nettle leaves
* 1 Qt boiling water

Steep for 10 min. and let cool until luke warm. Drain the leaves out and add the luke warm tea to your plants to keep them healthy and vibrant!

The reason for adding slightly warm tea (or water) to your plants is that they will be able to absorb the needed nutrients more easily by keeping the root pores open verses cold tea (or water) will have a tendency to restrict the pores, meaning a much slower process of absorption.

Comfrey is called knitbone or healing herb. It is high in calcium, potassium and phosphorus, and also rich in vitamins A and C. The nutrients present in comfrey actually assist in the healing process since it contains allantoin.
Alfalfa is one of the most powerful nitrogen - fixers of all the legumes. It is strong in iron and is a good source of phosphorus, potassium, magnesium and trace minerals.
Nettles are helpful to stimulate fermentation in compost or manure piles and this helps to break down other organic materials in your planting soil. The plant is said to contail carbonic acid and ammonia which may be the fermentation factor. Nettles are rich in iron and have as much protein as cottonseed meal.

amacian Bat Guano
N-P-K 1-10-0

Earthworm Castings
1-0-0 have 1% calcium and 0.2% iron

I usually mix a combo of PSG and Jamacian Guanos during flower. And a mix of PSG and high N guano (mexican) for veg. of course add a little bit of Kelp meal for extra K... Some people dont care about K but i do.


courtesy of Organic Plant Care of New Hampshire

 

[TSB]

Thank you awesome list. Looking at growing indoor with super soil. Have a batch cooking now. See a few new ingredients I can source locally. Thanks again for the ideas.

 

[bobrown14]

Llama poop is the shit! Same with Alpaca .. both of those you can add/mix direct to your soil and grow in it.

Same with rabbit poop.