PH Perfect Nutrients: Do I need to pH balance water anymore?

[onewarmguy]

Hey all, I'm going to be using Ph Perfect from Advanced Nutrients to keep the girls growing like the weeds they are this year. Ph Perfect claims that because of the chelated nutrients they use, I no longer need to get my water down to a 6.5 Ph to promote nutrient absorption. Would this mean that I don't need to PH balance water at all?
I've got to admit it'd make my grow a lot easier; adjusting the Ph of all the water I use gets to be a real PITA. Thoughts? Comments? Hopes and Dreams?

 

[Pennywise]

I used AN for a long time and I kept ph between 5.5-6.5 they said it’s not necessary but I didn’t take any chances.

 

[Emilya Green]

It always amazes me how many people will spend 3 tons of hard earned money on some high tech nutes, but then they can not bring themselves to follow the recommendations or feeding charts that come with them. Either trust the line you are buying into or go somewhere else for your nutes. You got to trust someone, but if you are prone to believing people on the internet over the manufacturer's recommendations, my words here are not going to matter either.

 

[Pennywise]

Go ahead a feed AN at 7+ and watch how fast they die.

 

[Emilya Green]

Go ahead a feed AN at 7+ and watch how fast they die.

there of course must be reasonable limits... what do they actually say at AN?

 

[Pennywise]

They say you can disregard ph and it will still work. I ran ph perfect for 2 years running multiple strains and if you go much over 6.5 your on thin ice. A lot of used AN early on but I don’t know of any that stayed with it.

 

[Emilya Green]

Here is their claim... and it is pretty impressive. All you have to do is be in this range:

 

[Emilya Green]

I didn't finish the last... they claim that if you are in the range they show here, their system automatically will adjust the pH to 5.5-6.3, usually holding it at 5.6, their sweet spot, for one week.

 

[Pennywise]

Yes, I talked to one of their reps and that was his claim. But it doesn’t work that way in the field.

 

[Pennywise]

That’s false, wait until he starts running the AN and we’ll see what happens.

 

[Emilya Green]

This is a perfect example of having to follow the manufacturer's instructions. No one else uses 5.6 as the sweet spot, yet their nutes are optimized at that point.

 

[Stunned]

A lot of used AN early on but I don’t know of any that stayed with it.

I think most of that can be attributed to the outrageous prices they charge for the nutes in their lineup.

 

[Pennywise]

Most of their supplements and additives are not needed. Their base nutes is all a plant actually needs.

 

[Pennywise]

A lot of it has to do with your water source too.

 

[Emilya Green]

You would think that at those prices it would be in their best interest to make sure the stuff works as advertised

 

[Pennywise]

That’s my thoughts exactly, but stop and think of all the growers in North America that don’t have access to hands on knowledge of a lot of these products. They just buy it because High Times promotes it.

 

[Emilya Green]

That’s my thoughts exactly, but stop and think of all the growers in North America that don’t have access to hands on knowledge of a lot of these products. They just buy it because High Times promotes it.

That only works so far, and then word of mouth takes over. If the stuff is crap, word would have gotten around. It just takes a group of grow shop owners demanding their money back and the company would quickly fold.

 

[Pennywise]

Hey they’re still in business though.

 

[Emilya Green]

that has to say something

 

[Pennywise]

Once I dropped it i never looked back.