Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
You got it brother.
You got it brother.
Stealth - Soil - HID - Smart Pot - SCROG - GDP - First Grow
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Barry Manilow
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Beautiful girls you have there giantsfan24! Looks like I got here just in time for the grand finale
Beautiful girls you have there giantsfan24! Looks like I got here just in time for the grand finale
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Giantsfan24
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Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
Wow back to back MOTM comments!! Hopefully this will make it a three in a row!!
Thanks Blue! It's been a very fun first grow. So much to improve upon and thanks to this journal, I'll be able to remember them!!
Wow back to back MOTM comments!! Hopefully this will make it a three in a row!!
Thanks Blue! It's been a very fun first grow. So much to improve upon and thanks to this journal, I'll be able to remember them!!
LadyLore
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Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
Thanks for helping me out in the DocBud's journal, totally gotta read yours now!
Thanks for helping me out in the DocBud's journal, totally gotta read yours now!
Growing247
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Those look really good. Hope my GDP comes out that good.
Those look really good. Hope my GDP comes out that good.
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Giantsfan24
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My pleasure..I love helping especially when someone thinks I did!! LOL His journals are always good.
It's coming out better than I thought it would. It's getting more purple by the day. I'm down to a watering on Tuesday, drying out with 24 hrs of dark starting Thursday to harvest on Friday morning...
Sounds so organized..
My pleasure..I love helping especially when someone thinks I did!! LOL His journals are always good.
It's coming out better than I thought it would. It's getting more purple by the day. I'm down to a watering on Tuesday, drying out with 24 hrs of dark starting Thursday to harvest on Friday morning...
Sounds so organized..
Barry Manilow
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Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
Good luck in the contest gf!
That's the cycle my friend, grow and learn and grow some more....
Wow back to back MOTM comments!! Hopefully this will make it a three in a row!!
Thanks Blue! It's been a very fun first grow. So much to improve upon and thanks to this journal, I'll be able to remember them!!
Good luck in the contest gf!
That's the cycle my friend, grow and learn and grow some more....
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Giantsfan24
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Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
Thanks Blue!!
Good luck in the contest gf!
That's the cycle my friend, grow and learn and grow some more....
Thanks Blue!!
George Parker
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You know you've got my vote old friend
You're doing great with your girls and have grown along with them. That should help a bunch next grow as well as you'll know when to stress and when not to. You are a great grower and great guy, I wish you the best in the contest and I know there are a lot of us rooting for ya.
You know you've got my vote old friend
You're doing great with your girls and have grown along with them. That should help a bunch next grow as well as you'll know when to stress and when not to. You are a great grower and great guy, I wish you the best in the contest and I know there are a lot of us rooting for ya.
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Giantsfan24
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Dude....thanks so much!!
You know you've got my vote old friend
You're doing great with your girls and have grown along with them. That should help a bunch next grow as well as you'll know when to stress and when not to. You are a great grower and great guy, I wish you the best in the contest and I know there are a lot of us rooting for ya.
Dude....thanks so much!!
McCrackin
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Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
Purple stems and purpling can be a sign of P def. This late it is an added bonus to have that much green in your fan leaves. There is nothing the buds are going to do except pull nutes... Next watering add a tsp of brown sugar per gallon. Or maple syrup. Add some sugar. My buddy does pepsi.
If you thought the smell was strong wait until you scissors cut into it. Lookin great bro.
Purple stems and purpling can be a sign of P def. This late it is an added bonus to have that much green in your fan leaves. There is nothing the buds are going to do except pull nutes... Next watering add a tsp of brown sugar per gallon. Or maple syrup. Add some sugar. My buddy does pepsi.
If you thought the smell was strong wait until you scissors cut into it. Lookin great bro.
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Giantsfan24
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Thanks McCrackin!
The purple'ing doesn't look unhealthy in this case...looks like it should be there. Grand Daddy Purple is the strain..
I'll know tomorrow when I'll be harvesting. I took a closer look at trichomes yesterday and I may have a little longer than I thought.
We'll see..
I like the maple syrup idea...I have some of that....
Thanks McCrackin!
The purple'ing doesn't look unhealthy in this case...looks like it should be there. Grand Daddy Purple is the strain..
I'll know tomorrow when I'll be harvesting. I took a closer look at trichomes yesterday and I may have a little longer than I thought.
We'll see..
I like the maple syrup idea...I have some of that....
Barry Manilow
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Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
Lots of guys use blackstrap molasses too... you're really feeding the soil those carbs not the plant directly. Cooler night temps will also induce purpling, this occurs in their natural environment as they move into the fall.
Lots of guys use blackstrap molasses too... you're really feeding the soil those carbs not the plant directly. Cooler night temps will also induce purpling, this occurs in their natural environment as they move into the fall.
Barry Manilow
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Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
ps wait it out as long as you can gf! Every day makes a difference now...
ps wait it out as long as you can gf! Every day makes a difference now...
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Giantsfan24
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Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
When I first saw that I thought they couldn't have meant real molasses...I thought it was code for something else...LOL
Yeah I'm not reassessing my decision to heavily trim this week but I am carefully watching to make sure my harvest time frame is correct.
I saw an awful lot of clear trichomes yesterday when I checked. Will check again tomorrow and see where we are.
I'm pure water flushing right now..not adding anything. Will adding maple syrup or molasses change the flavor of the end product adversely??
When I first saw that I thought they couldn't have meant real molasses...I thought it was code for something else...LOL
ps wait it out as long as you can gf! Every day makes a difference now...
Yeah I'm not reassessing my decision to heavily trim this week but I am carefully watching to make sure my harvest time frame is correct.
I saw an awful lot of clear trichomes yesterday when I checked. Will check again tomorrow and see where we are.
I'm pure water flushing right now..not adding anything. Will adding maple syrup or molasses change the flavor of the end product adversely??
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Giantsfan24
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Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
Harvesting Jess early may have been the best thing I could have done.
I totally fucked her up...didn't flush and harvested too early.
I get stoned off the weed, no question, but she is so fucking harsh...I almost coughed my eyeballs out vapping her last night!!
No more of that for the next 4 weeks...she's going to sit there and cure and if she's a no good then it's butter...
I've got some very good dispensary grade goodies I can use instead.
I will not make that mistake with Baby and Dorothy....
Harvesting Jess early may have been the best thing I could have done.
I totally fucked her up...didn't flush and harvested too early.
I get stoned off the weed, no question, but she is so fucking harsh...I almost coughed my eyeballs out vapping her last night!!
No more of that for the next 4 weeks...she's going to sit there and cure and if she's a no good then it's butter...
I've got some very good dispensary grade goodies I can use instead.
I will not make that mistake with Baby and Dorothy....
Barry Manilow
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Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
Haha the molasses code you're onto us now
I don't think either will affect the flavor, I've never heard anyone say that. Again you're feeding the microherd as doc likes to say.
I saw a post a long time ago about adding flavor to your crop. This guy claimed that you should use flavor concentrates like lemon or whatever. You should let the plants dry out before the chop, and then if you're in soil hit them with the flavored water 3-4 hours before you chop them. I think that's right, it was a very short time frame for both soil and hydro.
If you search the grow forums you should be able to find it again if that interests you.
When I first saw that I thought they couldn't have meant real molasses...I thought it was code for something else...LOL
Yeah I'm not reassessing my decision to heavily trim this week but I am carefully watching to make sure my harvest time frame is correct.
I saw an awful lot of clear trichomes yesterday when I checked. Will check again tomorrow and see where we are.
I'm pure water flushing right now..not adding anything. Will adding maple syrup or molasses change the flavor of the end product adversely??
Haha the molasses code you're onto us now
I don't think either will affect the flavor, I've never heard anyone say that. Again you're feeding the microherd as doc likes to say.
I saw a post a long time ago about adding flavor to your crop. This guy claimed that you should use flavor concentrates like lemon or whatever. You should let the plants dry out before the chop, and then if you're in soil hit them with the flavored water 3-4 hours before you chop them. I think that's right, it was a very short time frame for both soil and hydro.
If you search the grow forums you should be able to find it again if that interests you.
McCrackin
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Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
not adverse but might sugar it up a bit.
"It code for ... your shit is going to blow you away..."
Oh and the consensus among some of my friends is Hawaii Tropic Guava Passion Orange Juice by concentrate... Apparently you should mix it up regular but add one more can of water and pour it on the plants as the last watering and then let the soil dry out and harvest...
My friend said he did it for a week one time and saw no difference, but upon a blind smoke report, the juice was a + all the way.
not adverse but might sugar it up a bit.
"It code for ... your shit is going to blow you away..."
Oh and the consensus among some of my friends is Hawaii Tropic Guava Passion Orange Juice by concentrate... Apparently you should mix it up regular but add one more can of water and pour it on the plants as the last watering and then let the soil dry out and harvest...
My friend said he did it for a week one time and saw no difference, but upon a blind smoke report, the juice was a + all the way.
Barry Manilow
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Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
Ok this got my curiosity piqued so I found the thread, it's by 420 and called How To Cure Your Marijuana Crop
Here's the part on flavoring:
Adding Flavors
People pay a lot of money to get seeds they think will grow pot that smells like blueberries or chocolate or something else.
Often these strains are hard to grow or may not be as potent or high yielding as other less expensive varieties.
People want to know if orange bud smells and tastes like an orange. With the proper techniques you can make your favorite variety smell and often times taste like anything you want.
You want to do this without ruining the cure. It's no point having blueberry pot that burns your throat or doesn't get you high. Do not pour any syrup or similar flavorings on your pot. The sugar will make it very harsh and you are inviting mold. There are better ways.
The best flavor enhancing starts while the plant is still growing. You can do a certain amount while it's curing and you can even affect the smell/flavor somewhat after it's been cured.
There are two main approaches, inside out and outside in. You can apply flavors inside the plant while it's still growing and you can try to add flavors after it's been harvested but this is from the outside.
Anything you put in your plants water will affect the taste of the finished product particularly if you harvest it right afterwards.
I learned this about 20 years ago the hard way. I fertilized using fish emulsion right before I topped the plant. Bad move! The resulting top smelled like fish and had a foul taste.
What you want to do is select a flavoring that is very concentrated. Lets take orange for an example. You could use orange juice but if you could find concentrated orange extract you would have less pulp etc to deal with. You will find some concentrated flavor extracts in the grocery store.
Want your pot to smell like vanilla? Vanilla extract is cheap and readily available, so is lemon extract (cooking variety). Other extracts can be found in stores that specialize in baking supplies.
Lets say you can't find any of that and you want to use what you have on hand. I took the example of orange flavoring. If all you have is orange juice you could use that.
I would suggest filtering it first to get out as much of the pulp as possible. A coffee filter works well but it'll take a while to filter it all.
You may have to change filters a few times. Those with hydroponic units will shudder at the thought of a lot of goop going through their system. That's why I suggested the concentrated extracts if you can find them.
It's important to do this shortly before harvest. For one thing, most extracts including the ones you make up yourself have a lot of sugar in them. This sugar will ferment and decay rapidly, even more so in a hydro unit.
With hydro I recommend putting the flavoring in the water between 1 and 3 hours before harvest. This rule isn't set in stone but I heard from one grower who used a sugar based clearing solution on his crop and less than 24 hours later the water was foaming from bacteria growth.
Plants draw up solution fairly quickly so one hour should be enough for some of the flavoring to reach the top.
Three hours should not be enough time for bacteria to grow but you will want to dump out the solution right afterwards and clean out your unit.
Remember to use plain water for a few days before harvesting your hydro crop so all that will be in the water will be the flavoring.
If you are a soil grower it's even easier. You might think it would take longer for the flavor to work it's way through the plant but this is not the case.
All you have to do is let the plant dry out a little before your apply the solution. In other words schedule a watering just before harvest.
Naturally you were giving your plants plain water for several days to a week or two before harvest weren't you? Give the plant the water with the flavor when it's a little bit thirsty and it will draw it right up. One hour is more than enough time for this to happen.
After harvest it's important to give it a good cure as I described last week. Resist the temptation to fast dry some of the weed to try it out. You will find it's even more harsh than it would be normally because you have added some sugar to the plant by way of the flavoring.
The curing process will take care of the extra sugar and give you nice mild smoke. It will also have the flavor and aroma you are looking for.
I'm sure I will get a deluge of email asking me what the exact formula is for the flavoring. I can hear it now "how many drops of Bosco per gallon?" First of all, I don't know what you want.
You may want something that smells exactly like an orange or a blueberry and doesn't smell at all like pot.
As far as I know that's not possible. You would probably ruin the pot if you succeeded. What some people think is a nice hint of strawberry may be way too strong to the next person.
What one grower thinks is very blueberry may not smell or taste like blueberry to his friend. I suggest that you don't treat your whole crop this way while you are experimenting. Dirt growers will find this easy because they could use something different in each pot.
Hydro people may want to isolate a plant or two with the solution. This wouldn't be very hard because you wouldn't need circulation for the short period of time it would be soaking in it.
Other things you could try are guava, pineapple, grapefruit, passion fruit, cherry, mint or even pina colada. Stronger and more concentrated flavorings will have a more pronounced effect than more dilute products.
You may need gallons of orange juice to get what you want but a half ounce of concentrated strawberry essence might do the job nicely.
I may start collecting recipes and have an issue of the SU devoted to peoples favorite recipes sometime in the future. In short, experiment and see what works for you.
The other approach is to use something in the curing process. People have had good results with orange peel, lemon peel or other citrus peels.
This will only give a bit of odor, it's not as strong a technique as the previous one I mentioned. For those who just want a hint of something this may work fine.
It's important to watch very closely for mold when curing. The moisture from the peels may promote mold if you're not careful. Let the herb dry for a day or two before you add the peels This might work a little bit with pot that's already cured and dried but it's less effective at that point.
Author: GreenMan
Ok this got my curiosity piqued so I found the thread, it's by 420 and called How To Cure Your Marijuana Crop
Here's the part on flavoring:
Adding Flavors
People pay a lot of money to get seeds they think will grow pot that smells like blueberries or chocolate or something else.
Often these strains are hard to grow or may not be as potent or high yielding as other less expensive varieties.
People want to know if orange bud smells and tastes like an orange. With the proper techniques you can make your favorite variety smell and often times taste like anything you want.
You want to do this without ruining the cure. It's no point having blueberry pot that burns your throat or doesn't get you high. Do not pour any syrup or similar flavorings on your pot. The sugar will make it very harsh and you are inviting mold. There are better ways.
The best flavor enhancing starts while the plant is still growing. You can do a certain amount while it's curing and you can even affect the smell/flavor somewhat after it's been cured.
There are two main approaches, inside out and outside in. You can apply flavors inside the plant while it's still growing and you can try to add flavors after it's been harvested but this is from the outside.
Anything you put in your plants water will affect the taste of the finished product particularly if you harvest it right afterwards.
I learned this about 20 years ago the hard way. I fertilized using fish emulsion right before I topped the plant. Bad move! The resulting top smelled like fish and had a foul taste.
What you want to do is select a flavoring that is very concentrated. Lets take orange for an example. You could use orange juice but if you could find concentrated orange extract you would have less pulp etc to deal with. You will find some concentrated flavor extracts in the grocery store.
Want your pot to smell like vanilla? Vanilla extract is cheap and readily available, so is lemon extract (cooking variety). Other extracts can be found in stores that specialize in baking supplies.
Lets say you can't find any of that and you want to use what you have on hand. I took the example of orange flavoring. If all you have is orange juice you could use that.
I would suggest filtering it first to get out as much of the pulp as possible. A coffee filter works well but it'll take a while to filter it all.
You may have to change filters a few times. Those with hydroponic units will shudder at the thought of a lot of goop going through their system. That's why I suggested the concentrated extracts if you can find them.
It's important to do this shortly before harvest. For one thing, most extracts including the ones you make up yourself have a lot of sugar in them. This sugar will ferment and decay rapidly, even more so in a hydro unit.
With hydro I recommend putting the flavoring in the water between 1 and 3 hours before harvest. This rule isn't set in stone but I heard from one grower who used a sugar based clearing solution on his crop and less than 24 hours later the water was foaming from bacteria growth.
Plants draw up solution fairly quickly so one hour should be enough for some of the flavoring to reach the top.
Three hours should not be enough time for bacteria to grow but you will want to dump out the solution right afterwards and clean out your unit.
Remember to use plain water for a few days before harvesting your hydro crop so all that will be in the water will be the flavoring.
If you are a soil grower it's even easier. You might think it would take longer for the flavor to work it's way through the plant but this is not the case.
All you have to do is let the plant dry out a little before your apply the solution. In other words schedule a watering just before harvest.
Naturally you were giving your plants plain water for several days to a week or two before harvest weren't you? Give the plant the water with the flavor when it's a little bit thirsty and it will draw it right up. One hour is more than enough time for this to happen.
After harvest it's important to give it a good cure as I described last week. Resist the temptation to fast dry some of the weed to try it out. You will find it's even more harsh than it would be normally because you have added some sugar to the plant by way of the flavoring.
The curing process will take care of the extra sugar and give you nice mild smoke. It will also have the flavor and aroma you are looking for.
I'm sure I will get a deluge of email asking me what the exact formula is for the flavoring. I can hear it now "how many drops of Bosco per gallon?" First of all, I don't know what you want.
You may want something that smells exactly like an orange or a blueberry and doesn't smell at all like pot.
As far as I know that's not possible. You would probably ruin the pot if you succeeded. What some people think is a nice hint of strawberry may be way too strong to the next person.
What one grower thinks is very blueberry may not smell or taste like blueberry to his friend. I suggest that you don't treat your whole crop this way while you are experimenting. Dirt growers will find this easy because they could use something different in each pot.
Hydro people may want to isolate a plant or two with the solution. This wouldn't be very hard because you wouldn't need circulation for the short period of time it would be soaking in it.
Other things you could try are guava, pineapple, grapefruit, passion fruit, cherry, mint or even pina colada. Stronger and more concentrated flavorings will have a more pronounced effect than more dilute products.
You may need gallons of orange juice to get what you want but a half ounce of concentrated strawberry essence might do the job nicely.
I may start collecting recipes and have an issue of the SU devoted to peoples favorite recipes sometime in the future. In short, experiment and see what works for you.
The other approach is to use something in the curing process. People have had good results with orange peel, lemon peel or other citrus peels.
This will only give a bit of odor, it's not as strong a technique as the previous one I mentioned. For those who just want a hint of something this may work fine.
It's important to watch very closely for mold when curing. The moisture from the peels may promote mold if you're not careful. Let the herb dry for a day or two before you add the peels This might work a little bit with pot that's already cured and dried but it's less effective at that point.
Author: GreenMan
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Giantsfan24
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Re: Stealth, Soil, HID, Smart Pot, SCROG, GDP - First Grow
Wow Blue! Thanks for the great info!!
Day 96 - Flowering Day 49
Well today begins week 8. I'm so close I can feel it..certainly can smell it!!
I took the girls out today and they are officially drinking up the water. Both girls we light as hell. Surprised me. I flushed I think on Friday morning, watered on the Wednesday before and they still blew through all the water...
That is a good, good sign.
Today was just a plain ph'd watering. No nutes. I'm done with nutes. Both plants have predominately cloudy trichomes. I'm going to have to check them daily now.
As soon as I see a good amount of amber trich's, it's harvest time.
Baby has some amber and Dorothy has just a few. None the less, they will both go on the same day. I need the box for drying and the worst case scenario is to have a heady high stash and a body high or combo stash.
Perfect!!
Did a lot of trimming today. Getting things out of the way and ready to be harvested.
Pics!!
The purple color is really coming through strong now. Before it was just a hint of purple. It's funny..it's like it starts at the base of the leaf and moves down to the tips. Very cool.
That's the update. We're t minus something for sure!!
Wow Blue! Thanks for the great info!!
Day 96 - Flowering Day 49
Well today begins week 8. I'm so close I can feel it..certainly can smell it!!
I took the girls out today and they are officially drinking up the water. Both girls we light as hell. Surprised me. I flushed I think on Friday morning, watered on the Wednesday before and they still blew through all the water...
That is a good, good sign.
Today was just a plain ph'd watering. No nutes. I'm done with nutes. Both plants have predominately cloudy trichomes. I'm going to have to check them daily now.
As soon as I see a good amount of amber trich's, it's harvest time.
Baby has some amber and Dorothy has just a few. None the less, they will both go on the same day. I need the box for drying and the worst case scenario is to have a heady high stash and a body high or combo stash.
Perfect!!
Did a lot of trimming today. Getting things out of the way and ready to be harvested.
Pics!!
The purple color is really coming through strong now. Before it was just a hint of purple. It's funny..it's like it starts at the base of the leaf and moves down to the tips. Very cool.
That's the update. We're t minus something for sure!!
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