Bud density

[Jacare]

Hi guys,

Can anyone give me advice on how to get denser buds? So far I'm impressed with the size and yeild bud the density is poor.

 

[Liam5677]

I believe it has to do with light intensity but I’m 100% sure. I’m sure there are other factors too.

 

[Blew Hiller]

Better lights def helps with bigger, denser buds

 

[Pjs420]

Lighting and patience... the last few weeks are crucial to bud development... something I’m learning from experience lol

 

[Tony Urban]

Keep in mind the wet buds harden quite a bit during drying and curing.

 

[Cannamusic]

Are you growing a sativa?
The buds of sativas are generally more airy than their Indica counterparts.
Sativas take longer to finish as well, so extra time and patience is needed for a tasty sativa.

 

[fanleaf]

Light type and intensity.
CFL=loose buds generally
Hps= pretty dense
Low quality LED= loose to moderate
High quality LED or quantum boards= most dense.
This is also depending on the particular strain traits as well as environment. Slightly cooler flowering temps (76-77 degrees) at canopy can help.

 

[Jacare]

Thanks for the help.
I've done Sativa and Indica with similar density.
I'm using a 135w quantum board

 

[fanleaf]

Thanks for the help.
I've done Sativa and Indica with similar density.
I'm using a 135w quantum board

135w for what size grow area?

 

[Jacare]

It's only a small area hence the size. I have to have it on its lowest setting too due to the heat output. I believe the area is 100x100x140cm. It's used for auto's

 

[fanleaf]

It's only a small area hence the size. I have to have it on its lowest setting too due to the heat output. I believe the area is 100x100x140cm. It's used for auto's

Well, I'm not sure what your doing for ventilation but that's a good sized area for only 135w. That's over 10 square feet or 1 square meter of floor space. For big, dense buds you should be running a minimum of 400w of quantum boards on high. That's about 40 actual watts per square feet. Less than 400 actual watts will not bring maximum yields or very dense buds....Just nowhere near intense enough light.

 

[Jacare]

Well, I'm not sure what your doing for ventilation but that's a good sized area for only 135w. That's over 10 square feet or 1 square meter of floor space. For big, dense buds you should be running a minimum of 400w of quantum boards on high. That's about 40 actual watts per square feet. Less than 400 actual watts will not bring maximum yields or very dense buds....Just nowhere near intense enough light.

It's literally for one or two at the very maximum.
I was advised to not go any bigger as it would be too much in an area that size.

 

[fanleaf]

It's literally for one or two at the very maximum.
I was advised to not go any bigger as it would be too much in an area that size.

You were advised incorrectly. For optimum results; hps=50+ watts per square foot. Purple LED=50+ watts per square foot. Quality COB LED 35-40+ watts per square foot. Quantums=35-40 watts per square foot. Myself, I wouldn't even grow 1 plant under a 135w light. You are running less than 13 watts per square foot and that's with your light turned all the way to high. That's enough to effectively grow lettuce but not very effective for cannabis. Sorry bud, you were told wrong.

 

[fanleaf]

You need 3x the light and a decent exhaust blower and you would be amazed.

 

[Jacare]

You were advised incorrectly. For optimum results; hps=50+ watts per square foot. Purple LED=50+ watts per square foot. Quality COB LED 35-40+ watts per square foot. Quantums=35-40 watts per square foot. Myself, I wouldn't even grow 1 plant under a 135w light. You are running less than 13 watts per square foot and that's with your light turned all the way to high. That's enough to effectively grow lettuce but not very effective for cannabis. Sorry bud, you were told wrong.

Ok thanks a lot for your help! On the upside looks like I get to do some light shopping

 

[Tio Hector]

Good lights ... a given
But there is a trick to make your buds a bit dense. It’s called backbuilding, a process that you nip the tip of the buds with a couple of the hairs. This makes the bud more teardrop look and it does improve density.

 

[safeman]

also you can use these products : Massive Bloom (green Planet) - Mammonth P - these increase bud density, size, ect but you growing medium and Light are you two most important factors