Cafghanica
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Hello everyone,
So I am going to attempt to explain how and why we can make fem seed lots of our own at home without to much fuss. I am going to explain the basic genectis behind it and a few methods that can be used and which are best. I will also be editing this very soon with pictures to illustrate a few of the ideas.
First lets cover Hermi's the basic building block of Fem stock
There are 2 types of Hermi
1.Genetically predisposed Hermi's that would have produced male flowers on there female flowers requardless of any factor. These are generally refered to as bad Hermi's for breeding purposes because they do have a recessive male chromosome to pass along to future seeds as well as a hermi trait to be passed along.
2.And Then there are Hermi's that are induced through enviromental stress (light stress most common) or a form of chemical stress which will induce a female by genetic make up to produce male flowers on her female flowers which ingeneral will not pass along natural Hermi traits and will not pass along any male chromosomes to allow the future seed stock to produce males. There is also another method that does not require any true enviromental stress or chemical stress to cause this type of Hermi but the jury is still out on whether you eventually have a seed stock prone to Hermi when that is not the goal. I will talk about this type first. All of the above are considered good Hermi's when considered for breeding purposes. Again I'll go into my least favorite non chemical non enviroment tech first just so you can decide for yourself if this method maybe prone to cause later generations a predispostion to Hermi.
Different Techs
First there is the (Soma Seeds Tech) which is the one I think for having no real eviromental stress or chemicals is really the most prone to make future generations become hermi prone when unintended.
In this Tech they will let a female plant normally several in a true breeding program over mature to the point that they Hermi at that point you need another female plant to recieve the Hermi pollen. Once the pollinated plant has reached maturity you can besure that all your new seeds are female barring any genetically prone Hermi's. I believe this method to be inferior especially for any small breeding projects because over time you will be selecting the females most prone to Hermi when left to overmature which enturn could lead to future generations being prone to Hermi unwantedly. One foot note Sativa dominant strains are very hard to let overmature for this sort of breeding. Also another draw back of this sort of breeding is you will never be able to self pollinate a plant due to having to let the donor plant overmature so long normally (2-3 weeks)
The Next Tech is Photo Manipulation
In this Tech we will be using a manipulation of the photo period to cause the donor parent to Hermi and produce male flowers on what would otherwise be all femaile buds. In this Tech I like to leave the plants in the dark for 3-5 days when they are just ready to be flowered. I will go straight from 18/6 but it works on 24/0 as well and then to lights out on only the plants that need to be Hermied to be donors to other females for all female seed stock. You can also go back in after 5-7 days of 12/12 light schedule and do another 2-3 days dark for stuborn strains. I recommend keeping a close eye on each strain you try this with everyday during these dark periods its ok if it is interupted for a few minutes here and there. The reason I say this is because some strains mostly sativa dominant strains as well as Auto's can be very sensitive to long dark periods. If you find you have a plant of this nature try 6 hours on 18 hours off a day for a week then go to 10/14 for a week and then back to 6/18 for a few days then back to 12/12. This Tech does not have that many draw backs but it will Hermi the entire plant but also in most cases these plants can be left to (self) or self pollinate themselves or can be used to pollinate another female that has already formed pistils. This Tech is a form of stress so it can sometimes be hard to stress a few plants and not them all depending on room constrictions so keep this in mind if you think about using this method for all fem seed stock. Also depending on whether a plants heritage is Absolutely Phote Determined or not. Most indica dominant strains will give you no problem with this method.
(Just a reminder my favorite and most recommend way will be coming up soon)
The Next Tech is CRAZY DANGEROUS CHEMICALS I DO NOT ADVISE THIS METHOD!!!!! (Even though many of the seed houses do)
I am just glancing over this topic. I only seek to make you aware that this practice goes on and its not good and please try not to contribute to any seed house that you may find out use this method. I am not sure of any that I can name forsure and slander them because I have only seen some of the genectic freaks that this breeding has produced ie(polyploids) etc. These seed houses use Gibberellic acid which is a hormone and I generally do not frown upon the use of hormones when growing plants in alot of cases they are needed (rooting hormones etc) but in this case Gibberellic acid can make the product of a few generations of the seed unsmokeable and toxic to humans. I have never used this method but it can Colchicine seem to be the most prevalent types.
Now for my favorite method
Colloidal silver is my favorite and most recommend way of producing a non genectically prone Hermi for breeding purposes for all Fem seed stock. The reason I prefer this method is it is safe for the plant and us. It also is rather easy to do, you can choose to Hermi a brach instead of the whole plant if that is all you need. I realize that Colloidal Silver may seem like something out of science fiction but it is a simple silver solution that is easy to make at home and safe for humans. You can buy it at local pharmacies but the PPM on this solution for human consumption but isn't strong enough to produce Hermi's.
I will come back and update this thread with pictures of my Colloidal Silver Generator so you can make it at home for next to nothing and there are also kits that can be purchased on line.
When using Colloidal Silver during the first week of flowering you simply spray your plants during the dark period or while your large lighting is kicked off to make sure you do not get leaf burn. Any time you apply a liquid foilar spray to your plants they should not be under intense light. Do this for about the first 2 - 3 days during the first week of flowering and the plants will produce male flowers on there female flowers leading to Fem seed stock. You can also just Hermi a single branch or two but if you choose this method in an active flowering garden to gather pollen off a donor plant for later use on your next flowering crop make sure to cover the Hermi branch to collect the pollen and to also keep it from spreading through out your entire garden (plastic bag etc). You can also do selfing with this method. This method also works with any stuborn sativa or any Auto's. Remember the premise of all of this is (XX)*(XX) = XX or Female * Female = Female but if you have a bad Hermi one predisposed to Hermi your not getting all X chromosomes.
Also if you found this educational please +rep me and I will get picutures of my Colloidal Silver Gen up ASAP. This is a must for anyone that is looking into away to beat the system on ordering Auto strains that are too expensive to keep rebuying or a great way to get a mother essentially back ino seed form by crossing 2 clones getting a bunch of seed stock that will have a snapshot of her genetic make up or close within those seeds.
Any questions feel free to ask!
So I am going to attempt to explain how and why we can make fem seed lots of our own at home without to much fuss. I am going to explain the basic genectis behind it and a few methods that can be used and which are best. I will also be editing this very soon with pictures to illustrate a few of the ideas.
First lets cover Hermi's the basic building block of Fem stock
There are 2 types of Hermi
1.Genetically predisposed Hermi's that would have produced male flowers on there female flowers requardless of any factor. These are generally refered to as bad Hermi's for breeding purposes because they do have a recessive male chromosome to pass along to future seeds as well as a hermi trait to be passed along.
2.And Then there are Hermi's that are induced through enviromental stress (light stress most common) or a form of chemical stress which will induce a female by genetic make up to produce male flowers on her female flowers which ingeneral will not pass along natural Hermi traits and will not pass along any male chromosomes to allow the future seed stock to produce males. There is also another method that does not require any true enviromental stress or chemical stress to cause this type of Hermi but the jury is still out on whether you eventually have a seed stock prone to Hermi when that is not the goal. I will talk about this type first. All of the above are considered good Hermi's when considered for breeding purposes. Again I'll go into my least favorite non chemical non enviroment tech first just so you can decide for yourself if this method maybe prone to cause later generations a predispostion to Hermi.
Different Techs
First there is the (Soma Seeds Tech) which is the one I think for having no real eviromental stress or chemicals is really the most prone to make future generations become hermi prone when unintended.
In this Tech they will let a female plant normally several in a true breeding program over mature to the point that they Hermi at that point you need another female plant to recieve the Hermi pollen. Once the pollinated plant has reached maturity you can besure that all your new seeds are female barring any genetically prone Hermi's. I believe this method to be inferior especially for any small breeding projects because over time you will be selecting the females most prone to Hermi when left to overmature which enturn could lead to future generations being prone to Hermi unwantedly. One foot note Sativa dominant strains are very hard to let overmature for this sort of breeding. Also another draw back of this sort of breeding is you will never be able to self pollinate a plant due to having to let the donor plant overmature so long normally (2-3 weeks)
The Next Tech is Photo Manipulation
In this Tech we will be using a manipulation of the photo period to cause the donor parent to Hermi and produce male flowers on what would otherwise be all femaile buds. In this Tech I like to leave the plants in the dark for 3-5 days when they are just ready to be flowered. I will go straight from 18/6 but it works on 24/0 as well and then to lights out on only the plants that need to be Hermied to be donors to other females for all female seed stock. You can also go back in after 5-7 days of 12/12 light schedule and do another 2-3 days dark for stuborn strains. I recommend keeping a close eye on each strain you try this with everyday during these dark periods its ok if it is interupted for a few minutes here and there. The reason I say this is because some strains mostly sativa dominant strains as well as Auto's can be very sensitive to long dark periods. If you find you have a plant of this nature try 6 hours on 18 hours off a day for a week then go to 10/14 for a week and then back to 6/18 for a few days then back to 12/12. This Tech does not have that many draw backs but it will Hermi the entire plant but also in most cases these plants can be left to (self) or self pollinate themselves or can be used to pollinate another female that has already formed pistils. This Tech is a form of stress so it can sometimes be hard to stress a few plants and not them all depending on room constrictions so keep this in mind if you think about using this method for all fem seed stock. Also depending on whether a plants heritage is Absolutely Phote Determined or not. Most indica dominant strains will give you no problem with this method.
(Just a reminder my favorite and most recommend way will be coming up soon)
The Next Tech is CRAZY DANGEROUS CHEMICALS I DO NOT ADVISE THIS METHOD!!!!! (Even though many of the seed houses do)
I am just glancing over this topic. I only seek to make you aware that this practice goes on and its not good and please try not to contribute to any seed house that you may find out use this method. I am not sure of any that I can name forsure and slander them because I have only seen some of the genectic freaks that this breeding has produced ie(polyploids) etc. These seed houses use Gibberellic acid which is a hormone and I generally do not frown upon the use of hormones when growing plants in alot of cases they are needed (rooting hormones etc) but in this case Gibberellic acid can make the product of a few generations of the seed unsmokeable and toxic to humans. I have never used this method but it can Colchicine seem to be the most prevalent types.
Now for my favorite method
Colloidal silver is my favorite and most recommend way of producing a non genectically prone Hermi for breeding purposes for all Fem seed stock. The reason I prefer this method is it is safe for the plant and us. It also is rather easy to do, you can choose to Hermi a brach instead of the whole plant if that is all you need. I realize that Colloidal Silver may seem like something out of science fiction but it is a simple silver solution that is easy to make at home and safe for humans. You can buy it at local pharmacies but the PPM on this solution for human consumption but isn't strong enough to produce Hermi's.
I will come back and update this thread with pictures of my Colloidal Silver Generator so you can make it at home for next to nothing and there are also kits that can be purchased on line.
When using Colloidal Silver during the first week of flowering you simply spray your plants during the dark period or while your large lighting is kicked off to make sure you do not get leaf burn. Any time you apply a liquid foilar spray to your plants they should not be under intense light. Do this for about the first 2 - 3 days during the first week of flowering and the plants will produce male flowers on there female flowers leading to Fem seed stock. You can also just Hermi a single branch or two but if you choose this method in an active flowering garden to gather pollen off a donor plant for later use on your next flowering crop make sure to cover the Hermi branch to collect the pollen and to also keep it from spreading through out your entire garden (plastic bag etc). You can also do selfing with this method. This method also works with any stuborn sativa or any Auto's. Remember the premise of all of this is (XX)*(XX) = XX or Female * Female = Female but if you have a bad Hermi one predisposed to Hermi your not getting all X chromosomes.
Also if you found this educational please +rep me and I will get picutures of my Colloidal Silver Gen up ASAP. This is a must for anyone that is looking into away to beat the system on ordering Auto strains that are too expensive to keep rebuying or a great way to get a mother essentially back ino seed form by crossing 2 clones getting a bunch of seed stock that will have a snapshot of her genetic make up or close within those seeds.
Any questions feel free to ask!
