Crown Royal 3x3 Indoor In Cold Room, Soil

[TryingHigh]

These are photos from Nov 21st. I've been upping the nutrients. I noticed that my strongest / biggest plant is pulling the nitrogen out of the lower leaves. I'm a bit worried (and away from my plants for travel)

Hopefully the nutrients increase (higher N) helps with this. Not sure what else it could be. I'm thinking about the switch to Flowering after they have another two weeks under their belt. They aren't tall - but they are looking full. I have moved to fabric pots. Lots of roots in the old hard pots, so I think they'll get another boost in vegetative state.

I'm going to raise up the HPS light a bit too.

If anyone has any ideas on the "Yellow Leaves", let me know. I hope it doesn't get worse.

 

[TryingHigh]

So I took 8 clones from various topping. I think the only ones that survived were the apical meristems (center top) The 4 clones are going to my brother. He's getting his first grow up soon and the clones would be a good start. I don't have room to support more than 4. I think I'd eventually like to have a veg tent and flower tent for my next grow and keep it to 2 and 2. This would allow me to alternate strains.

 

[TryingHigh]

Came home after a week, and they all look super health. (the basil up front) Will need to do more cooking with basil.

I fed them nutrients and starting to shift towards the flowering ratios.

 

[TryingHigh]

Today, I decided to do some LST // one more round to even out the canopy. I'm wondering if I have too many active branches? I'm counting like 12 or 14. Might be forced to figure out some sort of scrog situation. They went from tiny to hardly fitting.

I added a "1500 Watt COB LED" which draws a little under 300 Watt to my tent. it will be only there for a few days, and then I hope to get a tiny Veg tent so I can start to do 2 veg / 2 flower. I'll grow some veggies in it until this batch is done flowering.

Since my tiny veg tent didn't arrive, the COB will stay in there until next week... Postmen on strike!

 

[TryingHigh]

Noticed a bit of heat stress this morning, had to adjust/reduce the delay for when the cooling (outlet fan) kicked in. It was hitting 32C on the reading - maybe a bit more on the leaves. The extra COB definitely added some un-expected heat. Only a slight indication with some upturned leaves. Raised the LED light and we shall see. The cold temperatures in the cold room will help regulate this.

I'm very curious on whether I should be removing the fan leaves that are attached to the base of my branches. I will probably veg another week waiting for my other tent before switching to flower. Should I also start removing branches that might be over crowding? It keeps sprouting branches / trying to be bushy.

Switch to flowering and let them go crazy? Or defoliate everything but the tops?

I expected about 8 colas per plant, but this rate - it is looking like 20. What would you do?

 

[TryingHigh]

More pics of my over trained girls. Might need to put my questions on defoliation in the faq for some advice.

 

[TryingHigh]

On the 5th of December, I switched the light schedule from 20/4 to 12/12. I cleaned out the tent and switched the HPS bulb to Metal Halide. I also setup a timed watering system for when I am away. I won't be able to manually water, so we'll see if the automatic system kicks in correctly.

I also moved my COB LED to a new tent area for my Basil/Cilantro/Pepper/Rosemary crop.

I'll see tomorrow if my setup worked, and the start watching for "flowering" to start.

My plants were very much spread out like the pictures above. I vegged them for a long time. Maybe 14 weeks? Mostly because they were stunted from the start.

The clones I took are growing like gangbusters. They are offsite now - but the lessons from my first grow helped make sure the clones were treated better.

 

[TryingHigh]

4 days since the switch to 12/12. Looking beautiful. I am wondering if I keep LST for an even canopy, or just let them earn their height?

 

[TryingHigh]

Pictures from last night. The HPS definitely has a different color. Need to consider a full spectrum led to augment after the holidays. My automatic watering worked while I was away.

 

[TryingHigh]

I did some LST last night to try to even the canopy. I am planning a small defoliation next week. Nothing significant. They continue to be bushy. With vegging so long ... the main stem is think as my thumb.

 

[TryingHigh]

On the 5th of December, I switched the light schedule from 20/4 to 12/12. I cleaned out the tent and switched the HPS bulb to Metal Halide. .

Correction, i switched the MH to HPS for flowering. I was confusing them in my posts.

 

[TryingHigh]

A night with the girls... had to wait for lights on tonight and then clean up some of the dryer leaves under the brush. Wondering how much defoliation is required? Some thic stems for your viewing pleasure...

 

[TryingHigh]

I think I'm hitting my first set of challenges with my grow room. Per the post, it is a cold room, which means the temperature drops down to about -3C. (outside temps are around -11 to -16C) The temperature inside the tent stays above 20C at all times, and a bit warmer during lights on. The problem is condensation on the inside walls of the tent. I didn't want to run exhaust constantly, but it seems I may have to. With running the exhaust, it will create negative pressure and pull more air into the tent, possibly dropping the temperature.

I don't want condensation on the walls of my tent. Recipe for disaster (mold). RH was running at 55-65 which was okay, but not with temperature gradient like this. I'm going to have to run the exhaust and put some heat in the "cold room" to keep it above 15 or 16C. Not ideal. $$

It will be good for the plants, but bad for energy usage.

 

[TryingHigh]

Interesting day yesterday. My temperature monitor (heating / cooling) died. The temperature inside my flowering tent dropped to like 13C. Not good. Luckily I was around to notice. It all happened within 10 minutes of the lights going off too.

Definitely decided i'm going to have to "heat the room" rather than put warm air into the tents.

When a 20/4 schedule, the HID lamp was able to keep the tent warm. With 12/12 - it isn't the same. I will know next time to maybe only veg in the winter (or go with autos in winter) so i can keep the lights on (rather than having to heat the cold room)

Experience. Hope the cool air didn't shock the girls in flowering.

Hope I can return the temperature monitor, it is brand new. No reason for it to die.

 

[Stu]

I’ve subbed up to watch
The cold winters sure are a struggle, my tent is in the basement of my 110 yr old house, cold storage room is 20 feet from my grow area, I’ve had to add ducting onto my furnace to bring the entire basement temp up, as it was in the 50’s now it’s in the low 70’s also my tent sits on a 2x6 R40 insulated floor I made for it so it wasn’t on cold cement

Cheers

 

[TryingHigh]

I have given up trying to keep my tent warm in a cold room. One of my heaters browned a leaf. And the 3x3 is too crowded anyway. Going to bite the bullet and keep the room warm pp

 

[TryingHigh]

So I recently learned that Crown Royal is known to flower blue if cold stressed in the nights. It would be great and interesting to see blue for this grow.

 

[BobbyZ]

I'm in. I love crown Royale. I just popped 2 beans. I refrigerator cured my last batch and it is superb.
Have you grown this before?

 

[TryingHigh]

I'm in. I love crown Royale. I just popped 2 beans. I refrigerator cured my last batch and it is superb.
Have you grown this before?

No, this is my first grow. I am new to this hobby, but definitely enjoying every minute.

 

[BobbyZ]

Just reading some and looking for things I would or wouldn't do. I applaud you for doing your homework before jumping in. You wouldn't believe how many people just stick the seed in dirt and then try to learn.
Ditch that PH mixer test (you see how hard it is to judge). Get a pen for $15 on amazon. Learning PH accuracy is imperative for a grow that feels effortless.
I'm an amateur with just a few more grows than you, and I buy FFOF soil and their 3 main nutes. It works every time... Stay as minimal as possible on additives, don't be fooled by the clever marketing. With my setup I don't add any nutes until the very end of veg. I like to have my PH up/down solution and some CalMag on hand. I can't say I do this right, but I'll feed them every other watering (feed, water, feed, water,...). So I'll feed one day and then 3-4 days later PH'd water only, per week.
All those tiny new buds near the base of your stem, pick them off. They won't amount to much and they are taking energy from your bigger bud sites. They just never get good lighting.
Your training looks good now. Maybe a little excessive in the beginning and may have slowed your growth. Next grow I would just low stress training a quad. A quad will be 4 main branches (similar to how you have only two mains).
You're doing good. Now fight the urge to mess with them every day.