Good Male?!

Well, For SURE, I am not very knowlegable about what you are asking.

I've heard that hermies crossed with females can produce feminized seeds, but I am not sure if that is a fact.

You need to ask someone with Breeding knowledge. I smoke and grow it, and know how, but I dont breed it.
 
The hermie would have to be a forced hermi, not a genetic hermi to create feminized seeds. The pollen from the hermi would have to pollinate a true female and even then you would get 50/50 hermi/female...
 
I guess what the point is, even if you forced them to hermie and pollinated a true female, the hermie to female ratio 1:1 would be the same as normal non feminized seeds male to female ratio 1:1. Which in my opinion is not worth your time. Here is some great info that was shared with me by McBudz.

McBudz said:
RODELIZATION: SOMA'S WAY TO FEMALE SEEDS

Creating feminized cannabis seeds is an art. Just like art, there are a few different methods of application. I have used gibberellic acid, pH stress, light stress, and fertilizer stress to force my female plants to make seeds.

Story by Soma

Creating feminized cannabis seeds is an art. Just like art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have used gibberellic acid, pH stress, light stress, and fertilizer stress to force my female plants to make seeds. All of these methods are harsh on the plants, and some, like the gibberellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner, more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds.
Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, rather than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher pH, some a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like much less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can't treat every plant the same way.

It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown the same strains for close to a decade, and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and in learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.

I named this new method "Rodelization," after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plants in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male "bananas." A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built-in safety factor so that in case of severe conditions, the plant can make sure the species is furthered.

To me, a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male-banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop, or at the very least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emergency devices out. I call them "emergency devices" because they emerge at times of stress.

In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plants 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed, and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one or two months and still remain potent.

For the next phase, you need to have a separate crop that's already 2 1/2 weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bags of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut all the fans in the growroom down. Then take a very fine paintbrush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with up to 10 different kinds in the same room with great success.

I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time (two crops), but is completely organic, and lets you have great-quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you're one of those growers who's never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.

You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross-pollinating. The older females with the male bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, unpollinated females after they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later, you will have ripe 100% feminized seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.

As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from ThSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: Drop seeds not bombs.
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Ms. Fox, I'm confused. You said forcing a plant to hermie and using the pollen to pollinate another female will result in seeds that are either hermie or female, yet the small article you quoted uses the same method and makes no mention of that.

I must be missing something here.
 
The article says they grew a strain many times first..making sure there are no tendencies towards hermies until well after peak flower.

If the strain is stable then stress induced herms make fem'd seeds. (in the article the stress on the stable strain was flowering too long without pollination)
If its an unstable strain the seeds are unstable too.
 
HB Rob said:
Ms. Fox, I'm confused. You said forcing a plant to hermie and using the pollen to pollinate another female will result in seeds that are either hermie or female, yet the small article you quoted uses the same method and makes no mention of that.

I must be missing something here.
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I appreciate your question. They are 2 different methods. 1 requires a hermie. The method above requires a female. The female must go beyond her expiration date. She will then produce male "bananas". These pollen sacks are used to create true feminized seeds in which you will see female results. I see where you are coming from, because a female plant producing male parts is considered to be a hermie; however, a female that has flowered and matured beyond her harvesting date who produces male parts is not considered a hermi. This process is called "survival of the species".
 
Ah I get it now. Thank you very much for clarifying that. I may have to try "Rodelization." It seems like much less of a hassle than trying to grow a healthy male in a separate grow room and you even get fem seeds!
 
Could my heavy light stress training(like his to long of flower with no pollen) have caused them to turn(eairler stage because of different methods) hermi....?

I have clones I might try and grow with less stress and see...

They have good qualities that id like to breed...to make my sensi star better...(hopefully)

:Rasta::peace:
 

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