TheFertilizer
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I have this really nice ATF cut I want to keep growing, and I am not sure how to plan out the cloning/cutting of it. I have to shutter my indoor around late-spring because the summer months are too hot and I switch to outdoors. Add to that, my place doesn't have great electricity, so I can't run any more light than a 315 CMH, a T5 and two house-hold LEDs.
I figure I can basically model it after my latest cycle with it. It wasn't perfect by any means, but I definitely got a feel for how this cut grows.
This is how I kept this alive for most of the flowering period (94 days). That light is just 2 very low-wattage house-hold LEDs.
(1 month later)
Eventually I up-potted it once it started looking too rough, and it responded well and took off growing despite the low light and it being root-bound.
(1.5 month after previous pic)
This is it today. It has improved significantly, but obviously still struggling.
(1 month after previous pic)
So that makes this mother about 3.5 months old already.
Here's a quick time-lapse of how the cycle went with this cut. I accidentally let their mother go into bloom a little too long before cloning, so they took a bit of time to get going. Once they did they just exploded. (Note the timestamps)
I had intended to do a SOG style, with 1-1.5 foot tall plants, but they just took off on me and so I had to use my T5 for side-lighting to light up the under-canopy, and that's why I was left lighting the clone with the little house-hold LEDs. Well, that might have turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to my grow, because I harvested more this time around than I ever have. On the other hand, if I use the T5 for side-lighting again, all I'll have to sustain a clone with in veg is the two house-hold LEDs.
I'm thinking that I should take the clones off the outdoor a little sooner so the clones aren't in such rough shape and they don't take as long to re-veg, but honestly I don't necessarily want it to be as fast as possible. Starting them when I did, about mid-September, was the best thing for me because by that time the summer temps had started dropping off. Not that those little LEDs added much heat.
On the other hand, I really only wanted them to get about half as tall as they did, so I have to figure out how to time the transition to flower better. I'm thinking about just starting them in 12/12 basically as soon as I notice nodes growing.
By my estimate I should have switched them to 12/12 essentially as soon as I put them into the 3 gallon pots. I didn't get to it until they were already a foot tall, and they blew up the tent. Had to supercrop them to keep them out of the light even at its highest.
However despite the last cycle's run, I've yet to see how this plant's clones actually do, so I'm not sure about this plan. Given that this plant is already 3.5 months old, and not in terrific shape, should I expect the clones from THIS mother to perform the same way the clones from the outdoor plant? Or should I try to nurse this out to better health before I take cuts off it?
I figure I can basically model it after my latest cycle with it. It wasn't perfect by any means, but I definitely got a feel for how this cut grows.
This is how I kept this alive for most of the flowering period (94 days). That light is just 2 very low-wattage house-hold LEDs.
(1 month later)
Eventually I up-potted it once it started looking too rough, and it responded well and took off growing despite the low light and it being root-bound.
(1.5 month after previous pic)
This is it today. It has improved significantly, but obviously still struggling.
(1 month after previous pic)
So that makes this mother about 3.5 months old already.
Here's a quick time-lapse of how the cycle went with this cut. I accidentally let their mother go into bloom a little too long before cloning, so they took a bit of time to get going. Once they did they just exploded. (Note the timestamps)
I had intended to do a SOG style, with 1-1.5 foot tall plants, but they just took off on me and so I had to use my T5 for side-lighting to light up the under-canopy, and that's why I was left lighting the clone with the little house-hold LEDs. Well, that might have turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to my grow, because I harvested more this time around than I ever have. On the other hand, if I use the T5 for side-lighting again, all I'll have to sustain a clone with in veg is the two house-hold LEDs.
I'm thinking that I should take the clones off the outdoor a little sooner so the clones aren't in such rough shape and they don't take as long to re-veg, but honestly I don't necessarily want it to be as fast as possible. Starting them when I did, about mid-September, was the best thing for me because by that time the summer temps had started dropping off. Not that those little LEDs added much heat.
On the other hand, I really only wanted them to get about half as tall as they did, so I have to figure out how to time the transition to flower better. I'm thinking about just starting them in 12/12 basically as soon as I notice nodes growing.
By my estimate I should have switched them to 12/12 essentially as soon as I put them into the 3 gallon pots. I didn't get to it until they were already a foot tall, and they blew up the tent. Had to supercrop them to keep them out of the light even at its highest.
However despite the last cycle's run, I've yet to see how this plant's clones actually do, so I'm not sure about this plan. Given that this plant is already 3.5 months old, and not in terrific shape, should I expect the clones from THIS mother to perform the same way the clones from the outdoor plant? Or should I try to nurse this out to better health before I take cuts off it?