So disappointed

fireman128 said:
When I started this grow I was excited since I had one other grow under my belt and this time I went from a $50 budget grow to a $500 setup. While germinating the seeds my id tags got knocked down and I had 4 different seed strains. No biggie that I wont know which is which 2 sprout and start great. The entire grow went great actually not alot of nute burn, always mixed molasses with my nutes for feedings. The girls looked amazing. Neither girl started to frost up good until week 9 flower, week 11 i checked my trichs and found about 50% were cloudy 10% amberish. So i started a 1 week flush using molasses and water. After 1 week all signs pointed to being ready so i chopped them down. Finished my bud wash and let hang for 5 hours then jarred and drying in the fridge. Today i took a bud from both strains I had and done a quick dry to sample my hard work. Smooth as a babys bottom. Burning good.... excited thinking ive nailed it but 20 minutes go by and no high.. after an hour i sample the other and the lightest body buzz.. what the hell did i do too my girls. The strains i had csme straight from an advertised and reputable company. All strains auposed to produce over 20% Thc... i used 3 oz of trim and popcorn buds to make cannabutter that was originally read at 1oz to 1lb of butter sticks. This am put a tablespoon in with my oatmeal, an hourly later barelyfelt anything.. i have the bottom 3rd in reveg and Im wondering if they are even worth revegging.. so dishearted as this is my medicine. Alot of hard work and doing everything within my means to make it the best and hell its weak as water. Heres a couple pics.
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Hey mate, I know how you feel, I
stuffed around for 12 months trying to
grow some plants in a tent. The fucking heat, 36 degree days up until fucking end of May?

best time to grow in a tent, is middle of winter.
Put lights on during the night and off during the day.

Heat will kill plants, kills the potency and reduces the THC.
Remember, seeds from a seedbank, are mostly hydro grows.
And it all has to be done perfect.

You harvested too early, check the trics with a jewellers loupe.
Look for the trics with a knob on top, like a cock knob..,
They contain THC. and CBD.

Check out grow diaries on the net.
Those girls looked like they were 75 percent ready.
If you have had problems with the grow, like HEAT OR LIGHT OR NUTE BURN.
You are going to have problems with the finishing and THC POTENCY.

If you are not sure about harvesting, snip a bud,
get a tupperware container and put some wet paper towel inside,
put wet bud there and nuke for 10 mins on 30 percent microwave.

If the buds are not giving you the buzz, they are not ready and the
THC increases in the last four to five weeks.
two weeks too early, low THC.

Make sure they are DRY. The buds should be dry.
If not, use the microwave for testing only..

But if you store the buds in glass jars and burp them
regularly, the potency will increase some, not a lot, but noticeable.
 
fireman128 said:
When I started this grow I was excited since I had one other grow under my belt and this time I went from a $50 budget grow to a $500 setup. While germinating the seeds my id tags got knocked down and I had 4 different seed strains. No biggie that I wont know which is which 2 sprout and start great. The entire grow went great actually not alot of nute burn, always mixed molasses with my nutes for feedings. The girls looked amazing. Neither girl started to frost up good until week 9 flower, week 11 i checked my trichs and found about 50% were cloudy 10% amberish. So i started a 1 week flush using molasses and water. After 1 week all signs pointed to being ready so i chopped them down. Finished my bud wash and let hang for 5 hours then jarred and drying in the fridge. Today i took a bud from both strains I had and done a quick dry to sample my hard work. Smooth as a babys bottom. Burning good.... excited thinking ive nailed it but 20 minutes go by and no high.. after an hour i sample the other and the lightest body buzz.. what the hell did i do too my girls. The strains i had csme straight from an advertised and reputable company. All strains auposed to produce over 20% Thc... i used 3 oz of trim and popcorn buds to make cannabutter that was originally read at 1oz to 1lb of butter sticks. This am put a tablespoon in with my oatmeal, an hourly later barelyfelt anything.. i have the bottom 3rd in reveg and Im wondering if they are even worth revegging.. so dishearted as this is my medicine. Alot of hard work and doing everything within my means to make it the best and hell its weak as water. Heres a couple pics.
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I read your post again.
Points that raised one of my eyebrows.
1. $50 -$500 dollar grows. first one outdoors and then indoors ?
2. not a lot of nute burn? Over fertilising is bad, its like poison to the plants, No need to over fert, NO need. Bad.
3. 4 different seed strains, What type and how long is the flowering for that variety.
4. Neither girl started to frost up good until week 9 flower, resin production slowed down. stress???
5. checked my trichs and found about 50% were cloudy 10% amberish???? 40 percent of trics where clear? Too early way.
6. my bud wash and let hang for 5 hours then jarred and drying in the fridge .. sorry you lost me, bud wash-wet?? 5 hours hang time , then jarred and then put into a cold fridge. I have never, ever in my life heard of that being done.
7.
fireman128 said:
When I started this grow I was excited since I had one other grow under my belt and this time I went from a $50 budget grow to a $500 setup. While germinating the seeds my id tags got knocked down and I had 4 different seed strains. No biggie that I wont know which is which 2 sprout and start great. The entire grow went great actually not alot of nute burn, always mixed molasses with my nutes for feedings. The girls looked amazing. Neither girl started to frost up good until week 9 flower, week 11 i checked my trichs and found about 50% were cloudy 10% amberish. So i started a 1 week flush using molasses and water. After 1 week all signs pointed to being ready so i chopped them down. Finished my bud wash and let hang for 5 hours then jarred and drying in the fridge. Today i took a bud from both strains I had and done a quick dry to sample my hard work. Smooth as a babys bottom. Burning good.... excited thinking ive nailed it but 20 minutes go by and no high.. after an hour i sample the other and the lightest body buzz.. what the hell did i do too my girls. The strains i had csme straight from an advertised and reputable company. All strains auposed to produce over 20% Thc... i used 3 oz of trim and popcorn buds to make cannabutter that was originally read at 1oz to 1lb of butter sticks. This am put a tablespoon in with my oatmeal, an hourly later barelyfelt anything.. i have the bottom 3rd in reveg and Im wondering if they are even worth revegging.. so dishearted as this is my medicine. Alot of hard work and doing everything within my means to make it the best and hell its weak as water. Heres a couple pics.
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I just looked at the pictures you sent and the pistils are only 40 percent darken. Too early, probably hardly any THC.
If you know the strain and name of the whole four? Haze, kush,
I think your lights are not strong enough for the number of plants you grew.

Poor light or not enough, weak buds.
And the plants will take forever to finish.
 
harryhampster3rd said:
I read your post again.
Points that raised one of my eyebrows.
1. $50 -$500 dollar grows. first one outdoors and then indoors ?
2. not a lot of nute burn? Over fertilising is bad, its like poison to the plants, No need to over fert, NO need. Bad.
3. 4 different seed strains, What type and how long is the flowering for that variety.
4. Neither girl started to frost up good until week 9 flower, resin production slowed down. stress???
5. checked my trichs and found about 50% were cloudy 10% amberish???? 40 percent of trics where clear? Too early way.
6. my bud wash and let hang for 5 hours then jarred and drying in the fridge .. sorry you lost me, bud wash-wet?? 5 hours hang time , then jarred and then put into a cold fridge. I have never, ever in my life heard of that being done.
7.

I just looked at the pictures you sent and the pistils are only 40 percent darken. Too early, probably hardly any THC.
If you know the strain and name of the whole four? Haze, kush,
I think your lights are not strong enough for the number of plants you grew.

Poor light or not enough, weak buds.
And the plants will take forever to finish.
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No my first grow was a indoors was just really cheap. Only produced 2oz but was pretty good smoke.

I know nute burn is bad? That was my point that it didnt really happen so shouldnt have been much stress. I was in no way saying i would purposefully do that...

As put in my other replys its a method i read about right here called dr ziggys low and slow. Thats why i dried in the fridge.

Bud wash as in after i cut it i i had 3 buckets to give them a quick dunk in to clean them. Read about bud washing here as well.

As mentioned earlier i cant say exactly which 2 strains i ended up growing bc i started out with 4 diff but the id cards got messed up. I used a 300w led for veg and 600w growstar led for flowering. Lst'd the plants the whole time so they got good penetration.
 
Stunned said:
Maybe it's just bad genetics and you'll have the same results in 3 months time
I'd toss the plant off the cliff
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I tend to agree. Why take the risk?

I also agree that you were at least a couple weeks early, but you should also still be getting a buzz.

I've never tried the low and slow, so I just can't comment. I suppose if it tastes fine, then all to the good.
 
Calvados said:
I tend to agree. Why take the risk?

I also agree that you were at least a couple weeks early, but you should also still be getting a buzz.

I've never tried the low and slow, so I just can't comment. I suppose if it tastes fine, then all to the good.
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I feel like getting new seeds is the best action as well. I do feel they were maybe a week early but the circumstances at the time gave me no other choice but to chop. Figured itd still be decent. During the entire cycle i made sure to keep my soil and water ph's on point. Check daily gor signs of nute/light burn, also made sure the tent conditions stayed on point. Through veg my tent stayed about 60%H/75°. Flower 50%H/75°.
 
Was checking the status of my dry and snapped a pic of how the buds look atm. The stems have almost no bend and which says its getting closer. If you zoom in on pic you can see still covered in trichs. Im gonna get new seeds and start over.. killing the reveg today.
 

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An ethanol extraction is always a good route to salvage low potency buds. After extraction, do an evaporation until it gets to the strength you're comfortable with or do a complete evaporation and do a transfer to a good carrier oil for some edibles.

Sorry for the disappointing results but always methods to salvage what you have.
 
Bucudinkydow said:
An ethanol extraction is always a good route to salvage low potency buds. After extraction, do an evaporation until it gets to the strength you're comfortable with or do a complete evaporation and do a transfer to a good carrier oil for some edibles.

Sorry for the disappointing results but always methods to salvage what you have.
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Thanks the positivity! I will not lie, i feel a little sketched out when ppl talk about ethonol extractions.. dont wanna blow myself up lol.
 
I don't see how the cure method would have removed or destroyed the cannabinoids. Try eating one to see what happens. The cannabinoids take up rate from smoking is quite low I think.

Also lots of medical benefits from cannabis without any high or buzz feeling.
 
fireman128 said:
Thanks the positivity! I will not lie, i feel a little sketched out when ppl talk about ethonol extractions.. dont wanna blow myself up lol.
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The volatility of ethanol is definitely due respect but with simple precautions can be processed safely. the actual extraction process is pretty straight forward. The evaporation stage is where some get into trouble. I only do a natural evaporation (no heat) in an outdoor environment or in a guest bathroom with the exhaust fan running. Still wouldn't prompt you to do anything you're not comfortable with, however.
 
I'v worked with Everclear before to extract from trim and popcorn buds.
It works suprisingly well at stripping the trics off the buds and sugar leaves.
Evaporation was fast and easy using a glass pyrex dish like what you bake lasagna in
I too, set it in the basement bathroom with the fan going and in a couple days.... presto
 
Poisoning your plants with nutrients ..... Poisoning yourself ingesting residue from chemical solvents.

Both sound the same to me - just saying. Many won't agree.

You mention cannabis is your medicine. May I ask what you are treating?
 
fireman128 said:
Ptsd and ADD
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Read everyone's replies, do research on the internet about the strain you are growing.
You should record your grow in a exercise book cheap 90 cents.

It is all learning mate, I grew outside and keep them covered, because of noisy neighbours.
and got reduced potency,

Start again, I will tell you what to do.

1. get seeds or clones, it would be seeds I guess.
2. boil the kettle.. let it cool.... use that water for seeds.... PH the water 5.5
3. If you don't have a PH pen, invest in one. its invaluable. and buy PH up and down.
4. get some jiffy pellets, they are made from compressed coco coir. Add water and squeeze out excess.
5. Buy a little baby greenhouse, they are about 20 bucks from bunnings.
6 Let the seeds soak in water for about four hours, then carefully pop into jiffy pellets.
7. put pellets in the baby greenhouse and mist PH 5.5 water inside the plastic hood part, to make some humidity.
8. DO NOT WATER until the tops of the pellets are dried out very important. Only water, when necessary and dont mist the popped seeds with water all the time. Remember seeds in the wild get some water, store it and wait for the sun.
9. DO NOT MIST THE PELLETS AT ALL JUST the inside of greenhouse,
10. The seeds will pop and grow a long shoot down, wait until the roots are poking out of pellet.
11. transplant into very small pots or use those red american alcohol cups ,they use at college parties.
12. secret is to only water, when the coco coir has dried out at the top of the cups. and make sure you put some sand in cups and plenty of holes.
13. Use your 300 watt led for veg.
14. When plants get bigger, after one and half weeks, veg at 18/6 or 24/0
15 veg them for the size you want. have to research more on internet.
16. 300 watts is very low for four plants. Need 600 watts for four plants, do not put too close to buds, light bleach them and fuck them. I have heard LEDs should not be really close.
17. If your not sure how close to put the lights, but a lux meter, $80 for a good one. it measures the light intensity.
18. Make sure u vent your tent with a carbon filter, electric fan 8 inch is the best size, believe me it is. do not stuff around with 4 inch, that is for small closet grows.
19. vent air into roof, it is scrubbed with carbon filter, so it doesn't stink. If not the neighbours will smell it, believe me they will, THEN YOUR FUCKED. neighbours WILL DOB YOU IN TO THE POLICE.
20. I put my german made electric 8 inch fan, in a chipboard box and put expandable foam around it. QUIET AS, use insulated ducted 8 inch ducting. Its more costly, but super quiet.
21. The door is closed and you cannot hear anything, best way., nosey people hear noises and smells. THEY DO AND WILL DOB you in.
22. Those fuckers should grow really fast, if you do not overwater, if you keep watering every day, like a sheep, you will have problems, major problems. seedlings will dampen off, and die too much water. Its not hydro.
23. I would not worry about mainlining plants, do not cut the tops off autos.
24. Your healthy plants should start to smell by week 4, if not you may be using Northern Lights very low odour good one for outside use an auto northern lights. autos are best for outdoors, no one will tell you that one.
25. Do not pluck off leaves or start trimming off branches, Most strains of choof, are hybrids grown for dense, fat colas.
26. Only cut off leaves that are diseased or yellow. Or are covering a big fat bud site.
27. Then when the plants are getting ready for harvest.
28. Look at the plant or take a small sample when the lights are on. It will be hard to tell the right colour of the plants , because of the leds.
29. The pistils are the white whispy looking skinny noodles, white , stick out of buds, you see them very early into the flowering.
30. 70% should be darkened.
31. check the trics under a magnifying glass or jewelers loupe is the best. take a snip off a bud , tiny bit to inspect.
32. the trics should be milky to amber, or for a couch look effect, mostly amber. harvest ,
33. cut off and hang upside down in tent, with carbon filter on and dark and make sure 20 degrees celcius. to dry it.
34. rest of it , dry manicure or manicure still wet, i wouldn't.
35. take some parts of buds to test in microwave, if it doesn't get you high, then it didn't grow right.
36. grow right - low potency not enough light on plants or lights too close, look at commercial grow sites they do not put ;the lights too close to plants. but they have alot of lights, so ambient light off all other globes.
37.REMEMBER the seed banks sell wonderful strains, but some of those strains, took the PROFESSIONALs people who make it their lively hood to make sure they do it right. and do not waste money on fungal, nutrient defs. pissy quality lights.
If I was you, I would have bought HID and HPS lamps/ light bulbs
38 The cheap leds put out lower intensity of light, do not be caught out with cheap, shit leds. Use Marshydro Pro or Eco minimum.
39.Do not wash the buds, you will get mold and do not cure in the fridge.
40 If something sounds too fucking weird, IT PROBABLY IS. Washing your buds, . They are covered in
THC resin ( for UV protection.) why the fuck would you want to wash that off.
41. Keep on learning, Pick a commercial strain seed or clone,
42. Incredible bulk, money maker, vast and auto for outdoor grows.
I am not sure what leds you are using, it sounds like they are cheap ones. Part of the problem is that.
First grow, use cheap seeds, under $10. get female seeds, less hassle, a lot better.
Use a grow tent, HID AND HPS lights with digital ballast, with variable power dial.
More heat, but they are better than leds, some say otherwise, but the gold standard of indoors growing is
HID AND HPS.
 
harryhampster3rd said:
Read everyone's replies, do research on the internet about the strain you are growing.
You should record your grow in a exercise book cheap 90 cents.

It is all learning mate, I grew outside and keep them covered, because of noisy neighbours.
and got reduced potency,

Start again, I will tell you what to do.

1. get seeds or clones, it would be seeds I guess.
2. boil the kettle.. let it cool.... use that water for seeds.... PH the water 5.5
3. If you don't have a PH pen, invest in one. its invaluable. and buy PH up and down.
4. get some jiffy pellets, they are made from compressed coco coir. Add water and squeeze out excess.
5. Buy a little baby greenhouse, they are about 20 bucks from bunnings.
6 Let the seeds soak in water for about four hours, then carefully pop into jiffy pellets.
7. put pellets in the baby greenhouse and mist PH 5.5 water inside the plastic hood part, to make some humidity.
8. DO NOT WATER until the tops of the pellets are dried out very important. Only water, when necessary and dont mist the popped seeds with water all the time. Remember seeds in the wild get some water, store it and wait for the sun.
9. DO NOT MIST THE PELLETS AT ALL JUST the inside of greenhouse,
10. The seeds will pop and grow a long shoot down, wait until the roots are poking out of pellet.
11. transplant into very small pots or use those red american alcohol cups ,they use at college parties.
12. secret is to only water, when the coco coir has dried out at the top of the cups. and make sure you put some sand in cups and plenty of holes.
13. Use your 300 watt led for veg.
14. When plants get bigger, after one and half weeks, veg at 18/6 or 24/0
15 veg them for the size you want. have to research more on internet.
16. 300 watts is very low for four plants. Need 600 watts for four plants, do not put too close to buds, light bleach them and fuck them. I have heard LEDs should not be really close.
17. If your not sure how close to put the lights, but a lux meter, $80 for a good one. it measures the light intensity.
18. Make sure u vent your tent with a carbon filter, electric fan 8 inch is the best size, believe me it is. do not stuff around with 4 inch, that is for small closet grows.
19. vent air into roof, it is scrubbed with carbon filter, so it doesn't stink. If not the neighbours will smell it, believe me they will, THEN YOUR FUCKED. neighbours WILL DOB YOU IN TO THE POLICE.
20. I put my german made electric 8 inch fan, in a chipboard box and put expandable foam around it. QUIET AS, use insulated ducted 8 inch ducting. Its more costly, but super quiet.
21. The door is closed and you cannot hear anything, best way., nosey people hear noises and smells. THEY DO AND WILL DOB you in.
22. Those fuckers should grow really fast, if you do not overwater, if you keep watering every day, like a sheep, you will have problems, major problems. seedlings will dampen off, and die too much water. Its not hydro.
23. I would not worry about mainlining plants, do not cut the tops off autos.
24. Your healthy plants should start to smell by week 4, if not you may be using Northern Lights very low odour good one for outside use an auto northern lights. autos are best for outdoors, no one will tell you that one.
25. Do not pluck off leaves or start trimming off branches, Most strains of choof, are hybrids grown for dense, fat colas.
26. Only cut off leaves that are diseased or yellow. Or are covering a big fat bud site.
27. Then when the plants are getting ready for harvest.
28. Look at the plant or take a small sample when the lights are on. It will be hard to tell the right colour of the plants , because of the leds.
29. The pistils are the white whispy looking skinny noodles, white , stick out of buds, you see them very early into the flowering.
30. 70% should be darkened.
31. check the trics under a magnifying glass or jewelers loupe is the best. take a snip off a bud , tiny bit to inspect.
32. the trics should be milky to amber, or for a couch look effect, mostly amber. harvest ,
33. cut off and hang upside down in tent, with carbon filter on and dark and make sure 20 degrees celcius. to dry it.
34. rest of it , dry manicure or manicure still wet, i wouldn't.
35. take some parts of buds to test in microwave, if it doesn't get you high, then it didn't grow right.
36. grow right - low potency not enough light on plants or lights too close, look at commercial grow sites they do not put ;the lights too close to plants. but they have alot of lights, so ambient light off all other globes.
37.REMEMBER the seed banks sell wonderful strains, but some of those strains, took the PROFESSIONALs people who make it their lively hood to make sure they do it right. and do not waste money on fungal, nutrient defs. pissy quality lights.
If I was you, I would have bought HID and HPS lamps/ light bulbs
38 The cheap leds put out lower intensity of light, do not be caught out with cheap, shit leds. Use Marshydro Pro or Eco minimum.
39.Do not wash the buds, you will get mold and do not cure in the fridge.
40 If something sounds too fucking weird, IT PROBABLY IS. Washing your buds, . They are covered in
THC resin ( for UV protection.) why the fuck would you want to wash that off.
41. Keep on learning, Pick a commercial strain seed or clone,
42. Incredible bulk, money maker, vast and auto for outdoor grows.
I am not sure what leds you are using, it sounds like they are cheap ones. Part of the problem is that.
First grow, use cheap seeds, under $10. get female seeds, less hassle, a lot better.
Use a grow tent, HID AND HPS lights with digital ballast, with variable power dial.
More heat, but they are better than leds, some say otherwise, but the gold standard of indoors growing is
HID AND HPS.
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Start a Grow Journal so members can support you in a successful grow rather than troubleshoot post-grow. :)
 

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