Feral's Journal Of Insanity & Some Growing
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Thanks Grnwzrd, Welcome mate
Thanks Grnwzrd, Welcome mate
Pat999
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Lol Pat.
Strange but strangely expected.
Feral really needs that Red D. to be awesome.
He is going to have enough of it.
Cheers friends.
Lol Pat.
Strange but strangely expected.
Feral really needs that Red D. to be awesome.
He is going to have enough of it.
Cheers friends.
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Thanks Pat
i quite often find myself looking at pictures of her while i cant access the grow room Next one up will be a looker too, she is one of my favs 
Thanks Pat
i quite often find myself looking at pictures of her while i cant access the grow room Next one up will be a looker too, she is one of my favs - Thread starter
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Id be happy with an oz of it going to be awesome smoke but quality doesnt last long around here, i expect within a week or two it will be out the door, no point in hording it when it can go to better homes one of the guys that gets it makes a mean coconut rub from most of my trim, always giving me little pots of it for my lower back and great for rubbing into the temples with bad headaches and migraines
Id be happy with an oz of it
going to be awesome smoke but quality doesnt last long around here, i expect within a week or two it will be out the door, no point in hording it when it can go to better homes one of the guys that gets it makes a mean coconut rub from most of my trim, always giving me little pots of it for my lower back and great for rubbing into the temples with bad headaches and migraines - Thread starter
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So i found a bit of info on how the legal side of things are expected to work here, pretty crap if you ask me! i wont go legal if this is their plan!
Introduction
1. The Federal Government has announced it will legalise the growing of cannabis for medicinal purposes. The government is currently in the process of finalising draft amendments to the Narcotics Drugs Act 1967 to allow Commonwealth licensing of the cultivation of cannabis in Australia for medicinal or scientific purposes, given Australia’s international obligations under the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs 1961 (Convention).
2. A Commonwealth licensing scheme within the Department of Health will be created to ensure cultivation meets Australia’s international obligations. This scheme will set out the obligations and legislative framework requirements for states and territories looking to set up agricultural industries around the cultivation of cannabis for medicinal or scientific purposes.
3. Convention Requirements:
(a) the convention requires the cultivation and manufacture of cannabis for medicinal or scientific purposes to be undertaken in a very specific way. Cultivation may take place only under licence to a single national agency, which must take physical possession of the total crop from the licensee;
(b) a government owned enterprise may then either manufacture the cannabis into another form, or issue licences permitting companies to engage in manufacturing; and
(c) stocks of cannabis must at all times be held by the national agency or by manufacturers of the medicinal cannabis products.
4. These requirements ensure that signatories must report annually to the convention board about the amount of cannabis they estimate will be legitimately used for medical and scientific purposes over the coming year. Accordingly, the Commonwealth government has a responsibility to give effect to the rules of the Convention. These rules cannot be undermined by state governments.
Applying for medicinal use in Australia:
1. For any form of cannabinoid to be approved for medicinal use in Australia, an application needs to be made to the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) with the supporting data to assess quality, safety and efficacy- just like any other medicine.
2. This process aims to maintain the same high safety standard for medicinal cannabis products that applies to any other experimental or emerging medicine. If sufficient clinical evidence is provided, the TGA may decide to approve the application, and include the product on the Australia Register of Therapeutic Goods (ARTG), allowing it to be supplied in Australia.
3. There is already one pharmaceutical registered on the ARTG that contains cannabinoids.
Sativex is registered in Australia for symptom improvement in patients with moderate to severe spasticity due to multiple sclerosis (MS).
4. The government cannot compel a sponsor to make an application to the TGA to have a product registered, and the TGA assessment process is made independent of ministerial involvement.
Current Developments:
1. Regulator of Medical Cannabis Bill 2014
(a) In November of 2014 the regulator of Medical Cannabis Bill 2014 (cth) was introduced to the Senate as a Private member’s Bill.
(b) The Bill establishes the Regulator of medicinal Cannabis, an agency that would:
(i) approve medicinal cannabis products for inclusion in a register of regulated cannabis products;
and
(ii) make, and monitor compliance with, rules for licensing the production, use, experimental use and import and export of medicinal cannabis.
(c) The proposed regulator is designed to satisfy the requirements of the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs regarding government supervision of licensed cannabis cultivation.
2. Draft Drugs of Dependence (Cannabis Use for Medical Purposes) amendment Bill 2014 (ACT)
(a) The Standing Committee on Health, Ageing, Community and Social Services of the Australian
capital territory Legislative Assembly is also considering proposed medicinal cannabis
legislation- the Drugs of Dependence Bill 2014 (ACT).
(b) The purpose of the draft bill is to set up a licensing system for patients to possess and grow their own cannabis for medicinal purposes if approved by the Chief Health Officer. Patients would be able to make one of three types of application:
(i) Category 1: for the mitigation of symptoms of a terminal illness;
(ii) Category 2: for the mitigation of one or more listed symptoms associated with a listed condition, set out in a table, such as cancer.
(iii) Category 3: for the mitigation of a symptom of any other medical condition or its treatment.
(c) The application would need to be supported by a statement from a doctor- once approved the patient would be permitted to possess cannabis which would essential amount to a licence to possess and use.
(d) The patient would also be permitted to seek a licence to cultivate cannabis either personally or on their behalf by a nominated carer.
3. Tasmanian parliamentary inquiry
(i) In November 2014, the Government Administration Committee ‘A’ of the Tasmanian Legislative Council released an interim report on the use of natural botanical medicinal cannabis flower for medicinal purposes.
(ii) The report noted that many Tasmanians were already using cannabis medicinally and that the law did not provide protections for these users or those that supply them
(iii) The committee recommended immediate legislative change, on compassionate grounds, to protect users from facing criminal charges associated with possession and administration.
4. Norfolk Island licence to cultivate and export cannabis
(a) In April 2015, the responsible minister announced that AusCann Group Holding Pty Ltd had lodged an application for a licence to "import, export, plant, cultivate, tend or harvest and sell" cannabis, for the purpose of establishing a medicinal cannabis industry on Norfolk Island.
(b) The legislation permits the Minister to grant such a licence under such conditions as it thinks appropriate with the discretion to cancel at any time.
(c) These laws have been repealed and replaced by local NSW laws.
So i found a bit of info on how the legal side of things are expected to work here, pretty crap if you ask me! i wont go legal if this is their plan!
Introduction
1. The Federal Government has announced it will legalise the growing of cannabis for medicinal purposes. The government is currently in the process of finalising draft amendments to the Narcotics Drugs Act 1967 to allow Commonwealth licensing of the cultivation of cannabis in Australia for medicinal or scientific purposes, given Australia’s international obligations under the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs 1961 (Convention).
2. A Commonwealth licensing scheme within the Department of Health will be created to ensure cultivation meets Australia’s international obligations. This scheme will set out the obligations and legislative framework requirements for states and territories looking to set up agricultural industries around the cultivation of cannabis for medicinal or scientific purposes.
3. Convention Requirements:
(a) the convention requires the cultivation and manufacture of cannabis for medicinal or scientific purposes to be undertaken in a very specific way. Cultivation may take place only under licence to a single national agency, which must take physical possession of the total crop from the licensee;
(b) a government owned enterprise may then either manufacture the cannabis into another form, or issue licences permitting companies to engage in manufacturing; and
(c) stocks of cannabis must at all times be held by the national agency or by manufacturers of the medicinal cannabis products.
4. These requirements ensure that signatories must report annually to the convention board about the amount of cannabis they estimate will be legitimately used for medical and scientific purposes over the coming year. Accordingly, the Commonwealth government has a responsibility to give effect to the rules of the Convention. These rules cannot be undermined by state governments.
Applying for medicinal use in Australia:
1. For any form of cannabinoid to be approved for medicinal use in Australia, an application needs to be made to the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) with the supporting data to assess quality, safety and efficacy- just like any other medicine.
2. This process aims to maintain the same high safety standard for medicinal cannabis products that applies to any other experimental or emerging medicine. If sufficient clinical evidence is provided, the TGA may decide to approve the application, and include the product on the Australia Register of Therapeutic Goods (ARTG), allowing it to be supplied in Australia.
3. There is already one pharmaceutical registered on the ARTG that contains cannabinoids.
Sativex is registered in Australia for symptom improvement in patients with moderate to severe spasticity due to multiple sclerosis (MS).
4. The government cannot compel a sponsor to make an application to the TGA to have a product registered, and the TGA assessment process is made independent of ministerial involvement.
Current Developments:
1. Regulator of Medical Cannabis Bill 2014
(a) In November of 2014 the regulator of Medical Cannabis Bill 2014 (cth) was introduced to the Senate as a Private member’s Bill.
(b) The Bill establishes the Regulator of medicinal Cannabis, an agency that would:
(i) approve medicinal cannabis products for inclusion in a register of regulated cannabis products;
and
(ii) make, and monitor compliance with, rules for licensing the production, use, experimental use and import and export of medicinal cannabis.
(c) The proposed regulator is designed to satisfy the requirements of the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs regarding government supervision of licensed cannabis cultivation.
2. Draft Drugs of Dependence (Cannabis Use for Medical Purposes) amendment Bill 2014 (ACT)
(a) The Standing Committee on Health, Ageing, Community and Social Services of the Australian
capital territory Legislative Assembly is also considering proposed medicinal cannabis
legislation- the Drugs of Dependence Bill 2014 (ACT).
(b) The purpose of the draft bill is to set up a licensing system for patients to possess and grow their own cannabis for medicinal purposes if approved by the Chief Health Officer. Patients would be able to make one of three types of application:
(i) Category 1: for the mitigation of symptoms of a terminal illness;
(ii) Category 2: for the mitigation of one or more listed symptoms associated with a listed condition, set out in a table, such as cancer.
(iii) Category 3: for the mitigation of a symptom of any other medical condition or its treatment.
(c) The application would need to be supported by a statement from a doctor- once approved the patient would be permitted to possess cannabis which would essential amount to a licence to possess and use.
(d) The patient would also be permitted to seek a licence to cultivate cannabis either personally or on their behalf by a nominated carer.
3. Tasmanian parliamentary inquiry
(i) In November 2014, the Government Administration Committee ‘A’ of the Tasmanian Legislative Council released an interim report on the use of natural botanical medicinal cannabis flower for medicinal purposes.
(ii) The report noted that many Tasmanians were already using cannabis medicinally and that the law did not provide protections for these users or those that supply them
(iii) The committee recommended immediate legislative change, on compassionate grounds, to protect users from facing criminal charges associated with possession and administration.
4. Norfolk Island licence to cultivate and export cannabis
(a) In April 2015, the responsible minister announced that AusCann Group Holding Pty Ltd had lodged an application for a licence to "import, export, plant, cultivate, tend or harvest and sell" cannabis, for the purpose of establishing a medicinal cannabis industry on Norfolk Island.
(b) The legislation permits the Minister to grant such a licence under such conditions as it thinks appropriate with the discretion to cancel at any time.
(c) These laws have been repealed and replaced by local NSW laws.
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3. Convention Requirements:
(a) the convention requires the cultivation and manufacture of cannabis for medicinal or scientific purposes to be undertaken in a very specific way. Cultivation may take place only under licence to a single national agency, which must take physical possession of the total crop from the licensee;
(b) a government owned enterprise may then either manufacture the cannabis into another form, or issue licences permitting companies to engage in manufacturing; and
(c) stocks of cannabis must at all times be held by the national agency or by manufacturers of the medicinal cannabis products.
3. Convention Requirements:
(a) the convention requires the cultivation and manufacture of cannabis for medicinal or scientific purposes to be undertaken in a very specific way. Cultivation may take place only under licence to a single national agency, which must take physical possession of the total crop from the licensee;
(b) a government owned enterprise may then either manufacture the cannabis into another form, or issue licences permitting companies to engage in manufacturing; and
(c) stocks of cannabis must at all times be held by the national agency or by manufacturers of the medicinal cannabis products.
re: Feral's Journal Of Insanity & Some Growing
If it takes that many words to legalize, then it ain't really legal now is it?
I recommend growing remain like Fight Club.
If it takes that many words to legalize, then it ain't really legal now is it?
I recommend growing remain like Fight Club.
Anthocyanin
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no talking bout fight club jaha
no talking bout fight club jaha
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I was gonna say that then i remembered im not allowed to talk about it
I was gonna say that then i remembered im not allowed to talk about it
Blacksmith
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Hey Feral, hope all is well. What a total load of horseshit that legal framework is, it just proves again that our government are just lap dogs to big pharma, because they're the only ones that could afford to comply, I vote for keeping it all underground, these days, decent growers like you are raising the bar on quality every day, soon, even the dumb teenagers won't want the low grade rubbish that the real criminals sell, and the unsavory element with disappear. Also, as the general public educate themselves about the safety and efficacy of cannabis, it will become more accepted as an alternative to more harmful substances.
Hey Feral, hope all is well. What a total load of horseshit that legal framework is, it just proves again that our government are just lap dogs to big pharma, because they're the only ones that could afford to comply, I vote for keeping it all underground, these days, decent growers like you are raising the bar on quality every day, soon, even the dumb teenagers won't want the low grade rubbish that the real criminals sell, and the unsavory element with disappear. Also, as the general public educate themselves about the safety and efficacy of cannabis, it will become more accepted as an alternative to more harmful substances.
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I agree mate, education is the main factor, i think these shows like weediquette are helping in a way as its not a real talked about subject in most peoples lives, having shows like this on tv brings it straight to their faces. There will always be a market for a lower grade product but i feel with the right legalization methods the price would come down to a point that there would be no interest from illegal activity
. I dont think anything should be used as a substitute or alternative to harder drugs but is a great way help wean addicts off them.
Thing that really pisses me off about their legalization is they expect people to grow a natural plant, then have to give that plant to a "national agency" so they can take this natural harmless plant and add synthetic elements to it, in turn probably making it just as dangerous as most pharma meds on the market. heres an idea, lets take something that cant kill you and make it kill them so we can then say "we taught you this in school that it kills you, its a dangerous drug"
I agree mate, education is the main factor, i think these shows like weediquette are helping in a way as its not a real talked about subject in most peoples lives, having shows like this on tv brings it straight to their faces. There will always be a market for a lower grade product but i feel with the right legalization methods the price would come down to a point that there would be no interest from illegal activity
. I dont think anything should be used as a substitute or alternative to harder drugs but is a great way help wean addicts off them.Thing that really pisses me off about their legalization is they expect people to grow a natural plant, then have to give that plant to a "national agency" so they can take this natural harmless plant and add synthetic elements to it, in turn probably making it just as dangerous as most pharma meds on the market. heres an idea, lets take something that cant kill you and make it kill them so we can then say "we taught you this in school that it kills you, its a dangerous drug"
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thanks progress 1 more day of flush and she is coming out may even get a jump on her tonight depending how she looks, welcome
thanks progress
1 more day of flush and she is coming out may even get a jump on her tonight depending how she looks, welcome
Blacksmith
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The fact is, big pharma can't afford people to realise that their way IS killing them slowly, they only keep us a live so we can pay for their lifestyles by way of their exorbitant prices and our taxes, they are just parasites.
The fact is, big pharma can't afford people to realise that their way IS killing them slowly, they only keep us a live so we can pay for their lifestyles by way of their exorbitant prices and our taxes, they are just parasites.
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Hopefully shit changes over the next few years and we get recreational, probably wont be for a long time but at least that way we wont have pills shoved down our throats
Hopefully shit changes over the next few years and we get recreational, probably wont be for a long time but at least that way we wont have pills shoved down our throats
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Well that sucks. I hope SA doesn't go the same route. What a disappointment.
Well that sucks. I hope SA doesn't go the same route. What a disappointment.
Blacksmith
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Yeah Feral, agreed, just having it reclassified or even decriminanised would be a leap forward, here's hoping.
Yeah Feral, agreed, just having it reclassified or even decriminanised would be a leap forward, here's hoping.
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Man, been on the phone for an hour, never felt so body stoned from being bored in my life i just want to sleep, talk about draining
Man, been on the phone for an hour, never felt so body stoned from being bored in my life
i just want to sleep, talk about draining Similar threads
