DakiniKush
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My understanding is any salt based nutrients are going to burn off all beneficial microbes anyways. Right?
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Thanks pennywise. I've been wasting money this entire time lol.The plant will also try to feed any microbes present. That just takes energy from the plant with nothing gained by the plant. If you use salts just stick with those.
Yes, it will kill them...what type of soil are you using?My understanding is any salt based nutrients are going to burn off all beneficial microbes anyways. Right?
Okay, well, the salt nutrients killed my organic soil when I used them, that's the reason I switched to FF soil and nutrients...and you need both beneficial bacteria, and microbes to have a healthy network in organic soilThere is no scientific data showing that salt will kill microbes there are billions but there is scientific data the says salt based nutrients do not kill soil microbes.
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Damn you must read a lotYou are right, salts do not automatically kill microbes, or we would all be in trouble. You can still get benefit from myco and any microbes in the soil can try to complete the feeding cycle, but the problem is that MC or any other synthetic nutrient system, takes over the feeding cycle. With MC everything the plant needs is moved in with the water into the plant where it can be processed internally, with the exception of a few basic elements, that work with the soil and the roots as they normally would. In the normal organic feeding cycle, the plants signal to the microbes through exudates given out via the roots as to what minerals they need at the time, and this is not only a signal as to what food is needed , but these plant secretions also help to feed those specific microbes. If the plant is not in need however because everything is being supplied by the MC, it is debatable whether or not the plant still sends out the exudate signals in the same quantity as a hungry plant would do, and because of this vital link in the organic feeding cycle being missing, at least some of the microbes die back, not from the salt based nutes, but because the plant stops feeding them!
Not all of the minerals coming in the the MC are chelated though, and some are entering via the normal root pathways every time you feed. Microbes associated with those elements, and of course the myco fungi which help the roots to absorb Phosphorus, would still be very valuable to a MC grow.
Huh? I’m not trying to somehow personally discredit you or what you’re saying. Just giving some different angles for the OP to think about.
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My bad I just knew that when I put the salt fertilizers to supplement my soil, the problems got worse. Didn't realize what it was actually doing, Em got me on the right track, but thanks guys, makes me read more...I'll finish reading my True Living Organics - The Ultimate Guide to Growing All-Natural Marijuana Indoors...that's why I'm here to learn and pass it onIf anyone ever read up on the Brix kit contents, they'd see that both salts (in salt form) and bennies are cooked in the soil together for a month before use. Also, farmers broadcast salts onto their fields, of which naturally have bennies therein. I think there is a lot of hype or misinfo, or even old understandings in this topic that is still being circulated, but I know that salts don't kill bennies, especially when the salts are diluted in water.
Okay, well, the salt nutrients killed my organic soil when I used them, that's the reason I switched to FF soil and nutrients...and you need both beneficial bacteria, and microbes to have a healthy network in organic soil
Just my experience