DrDoob
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Well one tent I got is 30w/sqft and the other is 32.5w/sqft and I’m happy. The plants in the 32.5 tent are doing especially great.
Questions regarding Quantum Boards
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I think they are very very efficient
The penetration is way better than my HPS or Blurple LED
I'm running about 450w in my 4x4 if I run em max, but usually I'm at about 80%
The penetration is way better than my HPS or Blurple LED
I'm running about 450w in my 4x4 if I run em max, but usually I'm at about 80%
PurpleGunRack
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Because the efficiency drop gets steep beyond this point.
No idea, both are fine, just get a board and heatsink combo, check out the Atreum 288.2, it's $75.
Yes, they're for full cycle.
Yes you can, you can wire 4 boards to one driver if you like, but it won't save you any money, so get a HLG 120h - 54A for each board.
Go with 4 boards from a verified seller.
You can't trust Alibaba sellers and the spread on a 550 is crappy compared to the same 4 boards as individual lamps.
288 is the number of diodes, it's supposed to be run at 135w max, and it covers a max of 2x2 in flower, sure you can stretch it beyond that but then you growing cabbage.
You can grow in a 4x4 with a 400w HPS, but a 1000W HPS is gonna yield a helluva lot more and better herb.
To hit a +1000 PPFD across every square inch in a 4x4 you need 6 boards running at around 800w.
4 boards not 4 sets of 2 boards... Does that mean 4 135s for a 4x4? How many Watts to run a 4x4
It's not like HID where you can say x watts for x m2, it's an equation with number of diodes, load, and surface area
For 4x4:
4x 288 boards or 1152 diodes (LM561c S06 bin or better @ 540w.
This is the rule of thumb minimum, less can be just fine and more is better
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When I look up the "HLG 120h - 54A" driver on Atreum's website it says its max output power is 124.2 W....Is this able to run at 135W like you suggest? Somewhat confused by that.
I like the idea of having 4 individual lamps so I can adjust the height of the lamps to suite my needs.
Speaking of height, if I were to use the lamps from seed --> flower, how high above the seedlings do I need to hang them? This is going to be my first grow from seed and don't want to hit them too hard. I know people usually use CFL's for their seedlings because they can set them up really close without damaging the lil babies so I'm curious about these LED's. Can you possibly point me in the right direction?
Thanks!
PurpleGunRack
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You can't go by those numbers, you have to calculate the max A and V and driver inefficiency, I guesstimate you'll be able to turn it up to 133w DC -> 142w AC.
You can get the HLG 150h-54A which will go up to 170w AC.
When the plants are youn gyou use less lamps and dim down, distance depends on intensity.
You can get the HLG 150h-54A which will go up to 170w AC.
When the plants are youn gyou use less lamps and dim down, distance depends on intensity.
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Stunned
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it will be but you probably don't want to run it that high
I run mine at about 110 per board
I run mine at about 110 per board
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Stunned
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go coco lol
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This is only my second grow and the first time I used soil so I don't want to switch it up too much haha
Stunned
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fair enough
PurpleGunRack
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AC is the input from wall to driver, DC is the output from the driver, the driver takes a cut to convert the power, usually around 6% for Meanwell HLG series drivers.
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Thank you for clarifying!
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@PurpleGunRack
You mentioned buying 4x HLG 150h-54A because buying one single driver for all 4 boards won't save me money. After pricing it out I would in fact save about $50 if I purchase a "HLG-480H-54". Even Atreum recommends getting a 480 driver for 4 boards. What are the drawbacks of purchasing a more powerful driver? More heat output?
You mentioned buying 4x HLG 150h-54A because buying one single driver for all 4 boards won't save me money. After pricing it out I would in fact save about $50 if I purchase a "HLG-480H-54". Even Atreum recommends getting a 480 driver for 4 boards. What are the drawbacks of purchasing a more powerful driver? More heat output?
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Also, is it required to build a frame to house the boards? Or can I hang purely from ratchet ropes?
PurpleGunRack
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Yes, it's slightly cheaper to get that driver over 4x 120h - 54A, but then you have one big lamp and you have to wire the boards to the driver externally with long wires if you want to be able to have the boards at different heights, and you have to run all boards at once at all times.
A 480h - 54A driver is slightly LESS powerful than 4x 120h-54A combined.
The smaller drivers can be mounted on top of the heatsink and each heatsink has holes for hanging, you can see this in the picture I posted a few posts back
If you do build a frame you can place the big driver somewhere on the framing, but you'll probaby end up losing the money you save from buying one big driver on framing, and that's just up front, in the long run not being able to have different heights or run fewer boards will cost in ''wasted'' light.
If you have 4 lamps and one fails, no big deal, if you have a single lamp and it fails...
A 480h - 54A driver is slightly LESS powerful than 4x 120h-54A combined.
The smaller drivers can be mounted on top of the heatsink and each heatsink has holes for hanging, you can see this in the picture I posted a few posts back
If you do build a frame you can place the big driver somewhere on the framing, but you'll probaby end up losing the money you save from buying one big driver on framing, and that's just up front, in the long run not being able to have different heights or run fewer boards will cost in ''wasted'' light.
If you have 4 lamps and one fails, no big deal, if you have a single lamp and it fails...
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Yes, it's slightly cheaper to get that driver over 4x 120h - 54A, but then you have one big lamp and you have to wire the boards to the driver externally with long wires if you want to be able to have the boards at different heights, and you have to run all boards at once at all times.
A 480h - 54A driver is slightly LESS powerful than 4x 120h-54A combined.
The smaller drivers can be mounted on top of the heatsink and each heatsink has holes for hanging, you can see this in the picture I posted a few posts back
If you do build a frame you can place the big driver somewhere on the framing, but you'll probaby end up losing the money you save from buying one big driver on framing, and that's just up front, in the long run not being able to have different heights or run fewer boards will cost in ''wasted'' light.
If you have 4 lamps and one fails, no big deal, if you have a single lamp and it fails...
Very good point. I pulled the trigger on 4x 288.2 + 4x 150h-54A! Excited to hook everything together and see what these babies can do! Unfortunately the lamps are on back order for another week =/
I ordered 4x Gorilla Glue #4 and 4x GG #4 + White Widow. Seemed like some decent seeds but it'll be my first time growing from seed, last time I did from clone. Gotta read up some =)
PurpleGunRack
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Yep, they're very popular, you won't regret the purchase
Reading is overrated, can't beat practical experience Just put the seeds in soil and add light, water and time
Happy growing
Reading is overrated, can't beat practical experience
Just put the seeds in soil and add light, water and time Happy growing
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Thanks PGR! Ya I tend to over think things especially when there's money involved want to make sure I'm doing the best i can to protect my investment haha.
The only thing I really need to figure out is the small window from germinating the seed --> seedling. Once they start getting some size on them i know how to top and LST etc. Just need to familiarize myself with the whole seed part of it all =)
The only thing I really need to figure out is the small window from germinating the seed --> seedling. Once they start getting some size on them i know how to top and LST etc. Just need to familiarize myself with the whole seed part of it all =)
DrDoob
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That’s the easy part, just add water and let Mother Nature do her thing. Fiddling with seedlings usually only causes problems.
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