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Just you wait pal!

My widow thats in flower now.. shes a BEAST! DWC tho and not Capn style.
Heres a peek of her on day 13 since changing to 12/12 light schedule:


Shes looking like close to a 1Lb chonger.. if not more.. What i really like (dont know if this is pheno dependent, or because i vegged her so long) is that as soon as buds started forming within 3 or 4 days of the light change (ill attribute that to the long veg period), she was already putting on the frost. Now on day 13 the plant is really starting to frost up!

The other phenotype of this widow strain i grew on the first run topped itself early on. It grew all twisted and mutated looking.. turns out it was growing 4 separate tops without any outside intervention by me. The seeds produced when my one Great white shark hermied and pollinated itself and a nearby White widow has produced very viable seeds that have all (so far, cant count the seedlings yet, but the ones i have in the grow box from these seeds all turned out female!! yay!

I got my clones in air pots right now, but i'm staggering them behind the widow to keep harvesting in my time schedule i have set. which means i didn't get them as large as i wanted before going into the Flower Tent. They are also sitting in a 4x4 flood table, so couldn't veg them too big or they would be too hard to keep separate.

I Wanna get the plants in flower out of the way cause i have an army of seedlings that will most likely all make it all the way to flower.

I'm currently building an RDWC system using 2 27gal totes as my RDWC containers. Going to try to hit 24oz per plant in the system. Next to it tho, i will have 2 Capn Style Dinafem OG's that Lady Greenthumb is growing!!

Like i said.. that Widow isn't grown Capn-Style, but its a chonger, and thats as good as i can give ya right now haha

Those nuggets are looking great for 13 days of flowering. Very kick ass.

Thanks Shanker. That plant had a veg time of about 6 months give or take a week. It was ready to flower about 4 months ago haha

Within 2 days after i switched the light schedule from 12 hours on 12 hours off i was seeing bud formation. Within 10 days i was seeing frost on the buds already.

Now shes on day 18 and is really starting to stack the buds and the frost on.

Could be the particular phenotype i have of this strain, or the fact that she vegged for so long, but to be putting on the frost this early in flower seems pretty extraordinary!

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Greenthumb J;bt10006 said:

Thanks Shanker. That plant had a veg time of about 6 months give or take a week. It was ready to flower about 4 months ago haha

Within 2 days after i switched the light schedule from 12 hours on 12 hours off i was seeing bud formation. Within 10 days i was seeing frost on the buds already.

Now shes on day 18 and is really starting to stack the buds and the frost on.

Could be the particular phenotype i have of this strain, or the fact that she vegged for so long, but to be putting on the frost this early in flower seems pretty extraordinary!

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I hope you have a clone of this pheno. It is exceptional. Great find. I would like to know your exact nutrient recipe too!

I actually have 5 clones of her right now.. 3 just went into flower the other night cause they were large enough to sit in my flood table and probably not stretch into the light once i put the table on its final stand that i'm currently cementing together.

I have 2 other clones of it, both were too small for flower so i transplanted one into a 5gal airpot and left the other one to get a little root bound in the 2gal its in before i move them.

My nutrient recipe is yours, only slightly modified so i dont have to add so much damn water in afterwards to get my PPMs down. I have 2 measurements when making a batch of nutrient mixture.

I'm either doing a 4 gal bucket for the DWC Widow or a 9gal tote for my grow box.

Thing i found is, following your nutrient recipe you posted in your blog for different stages of the plants life, my PPMs are fucking off the chart when i'm done adding everything. My Pen doesn't even take a reading its so high, then i have to add like a gallon or 2 before my pen will take a reading at like almost 1000ppm. Each of your "parts" is similar to the GH nutrient schedule as in its 5ml's a part, but what i cant figure out is why my PPMs are off the map.

So i'm formulating my own amounts per G,M and B to keep the PPM within a certain range without having to add water to adjust the PPM. Because if for instance you have just the right amount of water for what you are refilling, and your PPM goes too high and you're forced to take out water to add more in to get the PPMs down, this doesn't seem very cost effective to have to water down your mix cause it was too strong.. especially if you are feeding to waste in veg. Nutes aren't super expensive, but they do add up you know?

My mix is the 3 part flora series. I use Florablend, ArmorSi, Cal/mag+ as per your recipe, but i add aquashield in everytime. I cant afford a chiller (I lied, i can, but i'd rather spend that $300 on something else) and the Aquashield is my high water temp solution. No pythium for me with 25C+ water temps. The DO levels are what really suffer tho with raising temps. but so far i haven't drowned the plant with no oxygen so i'm thinking i got things under control.

i brew my own version of the Tea. No ancient forest, but for humic acid supplement (which i'm led to believe this is what the Ancient forest is for since its natural forest humus from alaska, and i cant get any here in canada) I use Floralicious plus because it contains humic acid as well as sea kelp. Instead of Great White i use GH's Subculture-M. It contains many different strains of beneficial bacteria similar to Great White.
I also add a premade tea to the tea i brew cause i like some of the ingredients in it (bat guano, worm castings etc) and the nutrients it provides. Its Botanicare's Pure Blend Tea.
Dont forget a little Blackstrap Molasses!
I had to read back on my GFs grow journal here on the exact ingredients i put into this batch of tea (the GF calls it poop soup)

so... Aquashield, Subculture-M, Floralicious Plus, Florablend, Pure Blend Tea, GH Rapid Start and some blackstrap molasses is what goes into my bucket and bubbles for about 36 hours. I used my GH dual diaphragm air pump and it got frothy in 24 hours, like someone put suds in my bucket!

The Sweet Tooth Seedling i have under my LED loved the Tea.. roots are exploding out the 4" square pot like crazy!

Yes, i said it.. LED.. i have one. But, i got it for free as part of a review. So at least i didn't spend money on it!

ALTHOUGH.... this particular member on 420 who clearly doesn't like LEDs (i'll give you a hint, he has a green cape!!!) is going to be doing this Side by Side LED vs HPS grow off, which i'm very excited for. haha

I knew you would cave eventually and see if all the hype is really true. NO better person to put the argument to the test than you Capn. Growing your chongers the way you do under an HPS is a thing of beauty. What will be interesting to see is if the LEDs can keep up at least in the weight department.

I haven't checked in on that thread yet.. have you picked an LED to use?

I will be taking clones of the Widows that just went into flower because they were very vigorous clones that grew very quickly, and are the same phenotype as that Chonger i have frosting up already in my Big Tent!!

Hey GT. Thanks so much for the wel worded response. I'm not sure why your PPM would be off the chart. Many people have used the recipe with no issues. Are you sure your PPM meter is calibrated? If the PPM is too high, you can take some of that water and pour it into another bucket.

Please don't do DWC without a chiller. 25C is way too high. It's impossible to keep the water under 70 without a chiller.

I agree, it is impossible to keep the water under 70F without a chiller, but that temperature isn't needed for plant growth. Its just the temperature that DO levels are highest i find. I haven't used a chiller at all once and i haven't seen a root issue other than when i tried keeping a sterile environment in my grow box.

I quickly added aquashield and beneficials to my res, and i have kissed root issues goodbye ever since even with high water temps. My water temp has gone as high as 27 in the peak of our summer here (its stupid hot in my apartment for a less than 3 year old high rise) and i haven't seen the plant miss a beat. Only thing i noticed was the increased transpiration of the plant as well as the evaporation of the water at a quicker rate.

A chiller is a $300 piece of equipment that isn't necessary as long as you have an adequate amont of oxygen going into the water as well as using beneficial bacteria to keep the harmful bacteria at bay.

I could use that $300 for so many other things for my grow (or on my GF and win me some more brownie points!!)

Later this afternoon, i am going to mix up 2 buckets of nutrient mixture, cause plants need some love!! also, i want to test out my recipe i am coming up with this afternoon based off your nutrient recipes for veg, transition and bloom. I want to have it so that i DON'T have to add any water to the bucket or tote to get my PPM's where i want them. Or at least dont have to add more than a gallon of water!!

Hey Greenthumb.i am gonna do a cap'n style grow in next few weeks.doing the pots he makes in method #2.thinking 3 plants 3 mars 11 1200 over each one .general hydro nuts,scrog and some love.what u think?any input from you or cap'n would be greatly appreciated!!

Dude.... So what did the W.W end up yielding? Was the smoke kick ass or what? Don't leave us hanging!

Thats the last decent photo i took of the WW before i harvested her..

In total i got 9.5oz of premium buds for my patients, and probably another 2-3 zips of airy popcorn buds.

The smoke was nice. A very earthy taste, leaving you very uplifted and energized to get some things done.. The aroma of the plant was sharp and pungent on the nose with hints of fermenting peaches or nectarines, Sickly sweet!!

A bit light for my standards. I have chopped my Dinafem OG kush (one of them) and it was 3 week early due to some damage early in flower (it broke in half lol), but i have to say, some of the strongest smoke i've had in awhile. I'm excited to try the other plant i have which is about 40% amber trichomes and is the frostiest stuff i've ever seen!