If you ignore plant count laws, the 2L is your friend. Best of luck.
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ilikebike
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Might want to check out walmart. Ive been able to get 2liters there for 50-75cents on the regularTheir off brand stuff is even cheaper sometimes!
i went to walmart after seeing this post, the cheapest i could find a 2L for was like 59 cents, but i gotta be honest with you, the quality of the 2L bottle was not as good as the ones i bought for $1. They are very thin and 'collapse' very easily, i buy the $1 bottles at rite aid , they will do the trick!
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ShadowGrow
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Yeah all is good! Been real busy with a million other things. Been working on my car, and now we are considering moving. Today I went to 12/12.
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Thanks man, humidity is pretty low, round 25%. I've been real happy with the HPS and BPN. The only part that is lacking is me! The've gone 5 day without water but they didn't seem to mind. I bumped up the feeding to the BPN crazy growth formula, ppm=960 this time around. Show me some boobies!
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ShadowGrow
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Next time my 5 gal bucket is empty 
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ShadowGrow
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Well it may be a little early but I hate to be wasting light on males. I'll pull the strongest female and put her back in veg for a mother plant, the rest I'll flower. They are actually very branchy. I've seen some plants get 3 ft tall with 12/12 from seed.
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ShadowGrow
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Growth has been explosive this last week. All them are nice and green. Every plant has more then doubled in size!
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for explosive growth!
SmokzAlot
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Hey Shadow, looking good...
Couple of things I would like to mention, hope you don't mind.
I would leave it in 12/12 till it shows female, then take a cutting or two. No problems taking cuttings the first two weeks in flower. By in flower I mean once it shows its sex. After 2 weeks I would not recommend it. I have done so successfully but it takes forever to root after 2 weeks. I run a perpetual cloning with no mother in my garden. I just take cuttings from the most vigorous females at that time. You will save yourself 2-3 weeks grow time by not reverting back to veg. Save yourself the expense of keeping a mother. No electric or nutes to burn. Just take the cuttings within the first two weeks and you will soon be overun with females.
No sweat, a clone from a clone, from a clone, from a clone and so on.
Just another option, nothing more...
Couple of things I would like to mention, hope you don't mind.
I would leave it in 12/12 till it shows female, then take a cutting or two. No problems taking cuttings the first two weeks in flower. By in flower I mean once it shows its sex. After 2 weeks I would not recommend it. I have done so successfully but it takes forever to root after 2 weeks. I run a perpetual cloning with no mother in my garden. I just take cuttings from the most vigorous females at that time. You will save yourself 2-3 weeks grow time by not reverting back to veg. Save yourself the expense of keeping a mother. No electric or nutes to burn. Just take the cuttings within the first two weeks and you will soon be overun with females.
No sweat, a clone from a clone, from a clone, from a clone and so on.
Just another option, nothing more...
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ShadowGrow
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Hey that's a really good idea! I could just put the clones in my box for a couple weeks until they get roots. Then move them into the flowering chamber. I think that would work much better then a mother plant. Thank you!
SmokzAlot
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I cut and wait for roots. Once transplanted I wait for vigorous new growth, then I top once and wait again for vigorous new growth. Then into flower they go. I use 11/13 in my flower garden, and I am now running GLR in the veg room. Clones seem to love it as well.
Time from clone (rooted) to flower will vary depending on your methods and environment. I dont consider it a clone till it is rooted. Till then it is a cutting.
2-3 weeks is a good average.
Time from clone (rooted) to flower will vary depending on your methods and environment. I dont consider it a clone till it is rooted. Till then it is a cutting.
2-3 weeks is a good average.
SmokzAlot
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I forgot to mention, is that perhaps a calcium deficiency I see sneaking in on a few leafs?
It would also explain the limp look.
It would also explain the limp look.
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ShadowGrow
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There may be some type of deficiency but I doubt it's calcium. I have very hard water here, and I'm pretty sure that means it's high in calcium.
Thanks for posting your methods. I'll be following them pretty closely. I'll take cuttings as soon as they show me sex. I may consider going back to GLR for the clones to save $ on lights. Have to grab another timer and some type of humidity dome for the clones. May even consider building a small areo cloner so I don't have to move shit around all the time to water.
Thanks for posting your methods. I'll be following them pretty closely. I'll take cuttings as soon as they show me sex. I may consider going back to GLR for the clones to save $ on lights. Have to grab another timer and some type of humidity dome for the clones. May even consider building a small areo cloner so I don't have to move shit around all the time to water.
SmokzAlot
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It can be too hard as well. Causing lockouts. How well do you know your base water? Not what others are saying but what the water you feed with actually is.
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All I really know is that the ppm = 280 before any nutes are added. The Ph is 6.5 and I never mess with it. I have noticed the leaves that the plant does let go turns yellow with brown spots before I yank em or they fall off. They are almost always near or at the bottom.
Thanks for stopping bye vic. I have been leaving the door a little farther open and covering the light with a blanket. It seems to keep the heat down a little better. I need some type of exhaust fan near the top of the chamber.
I've been hesitant on doing any more construction because of the possibility of us moving and needing to rip this all down anyway. I hate the idea of moving but.. This other place is double the size, and I'd be able to dedicate a entire room.
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I'm so happy with the difference this last week has made. I had to do a side by side. Some of those in the back were topped a few weeks ago and now have 2-4 tops each!
1 week of 12/12
1 week of 12/12
SmokzAlot
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All I really know is that the ppm = 280 before any nutes are added. The Ph is 6.5 and I never mess with it. I have noticed the leaves that the plant does let go turns yellow with brown spots before I yank em or they fall off. They are almost always near or at the bottom.
Thanks for stopping bye vic. I have been leaving the door a little farther open and covering the light with a blanket. It seems to keep the heat down a little better. I need some type of exhaust fan near the top of the chamber.
I've been hesitant on doing any more construction because of the possibility of us moving and needing to rip this all down anyway. I hate the idea of moving but.. This other place is double the size, and I'd be able to dedicate a entire room.
Yep that's hard water. Not bad though, here I have seen 500 and 8.2. Usually 380 and 6.7. Ever measure your total alkalinity?
The brown spots sound like a mag deficiency. But I question what are the earliest signs you have seen? It also sounds like a necrotic N deficiency.
Always exhaust from the top most point you can get. Intake low as well.
Double the size doubles everything, from the cost to the work, plan carefully.
I make my size determination based on the lighting I wish to pay for. Reflective walls then to maximize everything I can.
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