Grow didn't go as I expected: what to do?

[solareclipse]

Hi guys...i look my grow room.today and i realize i have a nice and healthy grow
Almost healthy....
Those 3 laidies couldnt recover full back!!!
Getting better but slow very slow ...
The one of them also have a discolour.the other one is getting yellow in new grothw..i get sone pictures but with lights on wont see much difference in colours...
Hope u enjoy
I just want to see all plants healthy all time.those 3 it s almost 3 weeks i think in this situation.curly leaves.....curly and discolour leaves .etc.....
2morow morning i will get some pictures lights of..stress it abit but i must getsome clear pictures...

 

[Papageno]

I am sorry ...I have been super busy. I will get to your breeding question...possibly in about 2 weeks. I need to me to sit on the internet...which means setting up my computer. I am still unpacking from a move. I spent the weekend staining a bunch on concrete. I am just too busy but I will get to this in a few weeks. It is on my list.

Nice looking plants.

 

[solareclipse]

I am sorry ...I have been super busy. I will get to your breeding question...possibly in about 2 weeks. I need to me to sit on the internet...which means setting up my computer. I am still unpacking from a move. I spent the weekend staining a bunch on concrete. I am just too busy but I will get to this in a few weeks. It is on my list.

Nice looking plants.

Ok....dont worry about...get ur jobs done first...thanks a lot anyway...

 

[solareclipse]

I try to get some pictures but is not so good resolution....my camera is old.

 

[solareclipse]

Also the image resizer cut the edges...
Ii use my android to upload and there no good picrures and take sine more time than before my laptop broke.

 

[solareclipse]

This one is from the seeds i breed(F1) must get a laptop to upload some propper picts....first picts .
And second pict is the last one from the 3 having curling leaves...
I re-pot 3 days ago this one and it starts to recover...i can see ..

 

[Papageno]

So I finally had a chance to go look at this breeding program you posted. It is just more garbage from another forum like this and basically this guy is posting the first 2 of 8 steps then says "I am confused what to do now?" Some others reply. One person tries to explain this is difficult...but if you back breed this right it will work. But it takes planting a lot of seeds.

Basically what I was saying.


The one guy responding who does sort of know a bit about what they are talking about explains clearly that you must plant a lot of unknown seeds and grown them out fully to know at the 3rd stage. The deal is you have, I think, about a 33% chance per seed and need to mate 2 of them. So you have a 1 in 9 chance mating what you need. So at that stage if you mate 20 plants for 10 seeds you might get one with the propper auto gene which could be stabilized by back breeding 5 times...roughly.

The issue is with a recessive gene is you don't know if both you are propagating are a carrier.

What they did was show half the breeding and asked what's next and someone said well...if you do a bunch of seeds you can find one and back breed it.

Really...that doesn't mean much.

Peace

 

[solareclipse]

So I finally had a chance to go look at this breeding program you posted. It is just more garbage from another forum like this and basically this guy is posting the first 2 of 8 steps then says "I am confused what to do now?" Some others reply. One person tries to explain this is difficult...but if you back breed this right it will work. But it takes planting a lot of seeds.

Basically what I was saying.


The one guy responding who does sort of know a bit about what they are talking about explains clearly that you must plant a lot of unknown seeds and grown them out fully to know at the 3rd stage. The deal is you have, I think, about a 33% chance per seed and need to mate 2 of them. So you have a 1 in 9 chance mating what you need. So at that stage if you mate 20 plants for 10 seeds you might get one with the propper auto gene which could be stabilized by back breeding 5 times...roughly.

The issue is with a recessive gene is you don't know if both you are propagating are a carrier.

What they did was show half the breeding and asked what's next and someone said well...if you do a bunch of seeds you can find one and back breed it.

Really...that doesn't mean much.

Peace

First i want to tjank u for reply .
U missunderstand me or i never explain so.
What i am doing is making an indoor grow "Right Now" 6 photoperiod seeds i bought.
3 sensi skunk
3 ams
And coz an accident i had(they send me male photoperiod seed gorrila glue fast buds)by the way fast buds doesnt breed any photoperiod seeds.they send me this seed while i order a goriila glue auto femisized.
I complain but nothing happens.
I grow up the male gg for months.when autum begin he show me ot is a "he" and i decide to keep the pollen.
So many months growing ,i just couldnt wrip it of.
I make my research in internet and i just follow the steps .
My indoor grow have right now 8 females in very small pots 3 of them ,the best ones
are already "pregnant" from the cross i did.and 6 photoper in the third pot .big ones.
I do my grow and same time i experimention(is this correct word?)
I will go till f5 or f6 and if i am lucky to breed something worthing keeping then i will be happy.it doesnt takes me any more electriciry or nutes or time.
I will try this and u never know..
I will try to use some methods my grand pa used to do.
I will grow 2 laidies and i will cross them in real.i will keep the roots of the one and the above ground from the others.
If it works tjen good.if not work .next experiment.i will upload some pictures from the 3 ones i like better and mate them.

 

[solareclipse]

I did it in past with the stressing techniqe and work very good.
I had hunderds of big buddhha blue cheese autoflowering free seeds.
BBC x BC=Big Buddha Blue Cheese (BBBC)
I think i have a thread but cant remember if is this acount or my old one.many years ago.

 

[solareclipse]

Those 2 from 3 i pollinated .i like them more than others..
Some have fat trunk but no fat buds.some other gets 2 high in a very small pot.i must get photo each one seperately.
I cant be sure for the age but some of them germinate very first days of november and some few days later..
I hope.

 

[solareclipse]

3 weeks ago i change the timer to 12/12

 

[Papageno]

Yeah I think I am more confused even now.

I am not saying don't try...please try and if you have a methode that works inqould like to know.

It sounds like you collected polenta from a normal GG and are using that to create F1s with others. And now you are line breeding to the GG some random result.

I may ne misunderstanding.

I missed the part where you picked up an Auto to mix in.

The fundamental problem is you don't know if you want it until it shows. With autos that is easier. Just keep vegging and if they don't turn compost them.

If they turn line breed it back.

Get the F1 you want and if it doesn't turn auto... it doesnt mean much but breed again to the auto parent.

Then from there it should get easier.

Then you breed them back to the main line. Keep popping seeds and bread the fastest auto to the main line each time.

Won't be long. Keep breeding only the fastest auto back.

 

[Papageno]

I picked up seeds for doing this myself but I am worried I am going to run out the auto.

I picked up regulars and autos of the same strain from the same bank. Autos are not the same strain.

But I plan to breed them till I get an auto line that I can run back into the mainline.

 

[Papageno]

I am also going to use chitosan to hermi an auto...possibly a clone, and see if I can find an auto Male in there. I haven't self pollinated an auto yet. I am sure if I cared to look it up I would find a pile of stuff and some may be right.

I will just do as always and teach myself.

 

[solareclipse]

More or less this is what i am trying to do...about the auto i cross the gg it was an anesthesia auto..i thought u read this in prwvious posts..
The seeds i am waiting to get i will plant them and see if there is an auto .if not i will cross them again e.t.c.
The next seeds will be probably ready to germinatenin about 2 months..this help me to germinate as many as i can in small pots to save space outdoor.
Smaller pots ,more plants.
Thanks a lot village....
Peace.

 

[solareclipse]

It sounds like you collected polenta from a normal GG and are using that to create F1s with others. And now you are line breeding to the GG some random result

I already get the f1 seeds.those 2 is from the 8 laidies and are pregnant to the f2 seeds.

 

[Papageno]

So the optimal way is not the only way. If you are determined and know what you are doing you can make it happen... as I explained.

I did read your posts. That is not the same as understanding...

You can make this work.

 

[solareclipse]

Sorry for my english man...i cant write proper and i dont use these ,.;:"') and i cant read it..sorry for that.
I did agree with u.my purpose is if i make it to get some auto seeds to use them to grow small pots and many of them.till then i make normall grows yo have some smoke.
If doesnt work i will go to the colodial silver .
A big THANK YOU.

 

[Papageno]

No problem. Your English is fine. The problem is packing many thoughts into one post. Also...this is difficult stuff.

You dont have to breed correctly to do it correctly. It just takes longer.

You can get there if you keep trying correctly.

 

[solareclipse]

Could i get any autoflowering seeds from the results of this script.?
What the results could be?