Leaf trimming

[crustedfilth]

I'm flushing one of my girls right now, the other 2 have some time left on them. It is an outdoor grow.


I'm wondering when I should cut the leaves off? If I should? and why I should or shouldn't?

thanks in advance.

 

[Wingman420]

Only take the leaves off at harvest or immediately before. The plants need them to live.

+Rep Good Question

 

[Captain Kronic]

crustedfilth... I am posting for you a convincing argument against the taking/cutting of leaves, fan or otherwise. This post was originally posted by our own "Roseman" who unfortunately is no longer w/us.
However, his kindness and wisdom live on in the knowledge we share... enjoy the read! Once again... all credit for this post goes to Roseman!

DO NOT CUT THEM.
IF you think they are blocking some lights, then get some paperclips and hold them back, if you insist on doing anything, but DO NOT CUT THE FAN LEAVES OFF.

IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, When a large FAN leaf starts yellowing, say it is half yellow, that means in the photosynthesis process, that leaf has ate nutrients, absorbed some LIGHT and made food for the plant and buds and NOW, half of that is gone, or used or consumed. Well, what about the other half? Can not it's energy still be used or consumed?
AND when it is ALL consumed or used, that leaf will naturally just fall off.

AND you say it is blocking LIGHT?
GREAT and GOOD, that means it is getting the LIGHT it needs and deserves more than the other leaves do, to do it's job, to make food and grow.


Years ago I tried removing lower fan leaves to allow more Light to penetrate in. When I did remove more than a couple, the plant went into shock for a day or two, and quit eating or only ate half as much, and just went on "stand by" mode. Then, after a day or two, suddenly I saw that big fan leaf replaced by a new leaf, and I saw my plant use the energy to replace that leaf and grow it back FAST to the size it was, more than it used that energy to grow the plant bigger and make more buds or bigger buds.

I now believe that removing fan leaves is pointless, and that a leaf has a purpose and will serve that purpose until it is dead. Then it will naturally fall off. You will have small and large lower leaves just naturally wilt and fall off daily.


Don't ever remove fan leaves before harvest for several reasons.

1. The fan leaves MAKE AND STORE energy for the plant. The fan leaves are doing a process called photosynthsis, and it is the most important part or task or job the plant does, to make it grow. They make the FOOD, the sugars and carbs needed to grow.

If you remove a FAN leaf, the plant will stop growing taller until it can replace that removed fan leaf.

Removing a healthy fan leaf is a big waste of time..they are rapided replaced, unless you are in the last 2 or 3 weeks of flowering.


2. Even if the fan leaves are yellowing in late bloom I do not remove them until they are almost ready to fall off. The yellowing in the fan leaves at late harvest is the plants metabolism at work. She is transferring all stored energy in the fan leaf to bud production. It is the easiest source of energy she has late in life. Let that leaf do its job.

The Wrong reasoning is like "I could run faster if I was lighter and weighted less, so I am going to cut my legs off".



From the Growers Bible by Jorge Cervantes:
Leave leaves alone! Removal of healthy leave hacks up a healthy plant. Removing large or shade leaves DOES NOT make plants more productive. This practice DOES NOT supply more light to smaller leaves and growing tips. Plants need all their leaves to produce the maximum amount of chlorophyll and food. Removing leaves slows chlorophyll production, stresses the plant, and stunts its growth. Stress is a growth inhibitor. Remove only dead leaves or leaves that are more than 50 percent damaged.

 

[crustedfilth]

very good stuff,

thanks guys.

 

[Sensibowl]

Sounds like you already have your answer - don't trim your leaves.

I just think you need to keep plants in tact as much as possible since when you throw something off, it can throw off the entire growing cycle. You need to focus on just letting the plant do what it need to do, helping it when you need to help it, and step in when things start turning south.

Getting rid of parts of a plant just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Well, if they're diseased, I take things off and then see if the problems spread to other leaves. When that's the case, then the removal of the leaves has helped me diagnose a problem. But don't just take them off if that's not the case.

 

[Deacnbleu]

Wow, great info! I now know the reason for the failure of my first few plants.

 

[try2learn]

what happend to roseman why is he no longer with us ?

 

[SnowBender]

nobody knows, and if they do they aint telling.

 

[Stoned Redneck]

i was glad to read "unless you are in the last 2 or 3 weeks of flowering".....up here in the great north wet i was very worried about mold.there was a little,but i contained it.i trimmed 8 to 10 fan leaves per plant so they could "breeth"(hey, i can't spell sorry).i was hoping more airflow would be helpful. they all came out fine.i was very pleased with my first grow.i never thought it would be so involved but its been fun.hopeing to make some hash to shock my friends with....anyway i glad i wasn't messing with the plants too much by removing some fan leaves. Happy Trails,Red