what the differences... the tulip takes like 6 paper and a joint is a joint.. easy to roll a tulip isnt that hard but yes harder than a jay... and alot more buds
thought i would add a few of my hand rolled long joints first one is my B-Day joint 3 oranges long and 2 wide and the 2nd one is from a foot long element paper
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props on the flower joints that is bad ass!!!!!!!
over here the trick is as big as possible with as few papers as possible by using the gum to make a sheet then rolling a big fat cone if i can figure out how to put pics on this mac and then onto the forum ill show all