.....once again this is what i am experiencing....and that is why i made these last two postslol
and you never let go of my hand...
..... as most of you know IMO is the MMJ growing Guru and I think his word is gospel...
. I am ordering exactly what you have listed King as soon as I finish this post.... I talked to my fella cause as most of you know I got put on quite a tight budget for growing after I went a little nuts in the beginning but he seems to think I have done a really good job of reeling it in and agreed that it would be better to just bite the bullet and get what I need on the front end rather than just throwing 20 here and 40 there and hoping it will work... If I do exactly what King tells me to I know from over a years worth of hand holding from him that it will work.... King said it... I believe it... That makes it true...
.....lol......i look forward to seeing your setup when you get it
I am not saying his product advice isnt sound.......i was just saying from personal experience that a 6 inch inline isnt necessary for a 4 x 4 tent....sorry if it seemed as i was trying to sway you to a cheaper product.......i mentioned my brand just as it is what i have, but my main concern was size.....i digress and step to the sidelines
everyone has a different growing room and different climates.. When I started I was using the cheap fans, but then when I started to flower, I ran into the same problem Denise is having.. So I did what she did, added another can fan and I was also trying everything to control the temp at the same time between lights on and lights off.. I was NOT ready for the temp difference between the reflector series and the Mars 5w.. When I flicked on just one 700 in my 3x5 it shot to almost 90 degrees in just a few minutes and seriously I was shocked.. Not shocked so much at the heat the light produced as its really not that much, but when you cant control the climate in the tent it becomes a serious problem.. So long story short, before I knew it I was running more watts in fans than I was in lights overall lol.. So I took a hard look at the long road, and I wanted to be able to recoop the cost of the fans in savings in electricity.. So when you think about it, you could run 2x 8" Hyper Fans and these pull like 80 watts at max power, compared to a 8" Hurricane that by itself will pull 280watts, so you could run three 8" Hyper fans for the cost of one 8" Hurricane, or better yet save the money on electricity and buy more lights ... If I had known what I know today, I would have started with the better fans to begin with.. As well as the products from Titan Controls, they have already saved my arse more than a few times lol.. I even have the high temp shutoff for the lights should the AC or fans fail..
That is exactly what I would do if I don't just bite the bullet now and get what I need.... In the long run it will save me a bunch of money and him a lot of headaches...
when can I expect you to get here to help me install all this stuff I just ordered..
... No really ....
What Ko said..
It is all ordered as of now so I will just keep the tent wide open and there is no one in the room now and won't be until after everything is here and installed so thank you King and everyone else.... It really wasn't as much as I thought it would be so it didn't hurt that bad... it was a bit over my normal spending allotment but not by much...
Soooo King
anyhow there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that once the products he suggested are here and installed that my problems will be solved.... Now do I think that I could have ultimately solved this in other ways... well of course... but I have a tendency to do things back asswards and I am wound extremely tight soooo from experience with my anxiety levels and my checkbook I have found if I just listen to King on the front end I save myself a lot of headaches and anxiety.... but even as much as I trust and respect King I still check my prices because I am also very anal and King has a responsibility to the sponsors and 420... but when it comes to the products themselves that he suggests to me he has never... not once... been wrong or lead me down the wrong path...
....
high Cronic... actually yes I am....
....
Green I feel I need to explain my decision a little better.... The Twilight Spider16 is the strongest and most powerful COB on the market and this one is a proto and I agree that with the normal LEDs I have used and am currently using the smaller would most certainly be enough and probably more.... however King not only has tested the Spider4 I think it was but certainly a Spider and has worked with Twilight for a while now and has an idea of just how hot these run and I'm certain has an idea of the exact heat issues I am having with a 576x3w COB .... wow I just scared myself...
So please never feel like I am dismissing you or your suggestions and advise at all. I so appreciate the things you have posted and the info you have shared with me and in general I just like having you around so please don't go away....
......i definately know about heat issues but do not have any experience with your new light......i would like to hear King Johns thoughts on my question, but i know it is niether here nor there nowlol......i just wanted to make it clear that it wasnt about product selection......just product size......oh and i would like to put that with the 3 lights in the flower room with the exhaust off the temps would go over 95 in about 5 to 10 minutes......that was while i tried using co2loll.....that was a fiasco with the heat issues....exhaust had to be on constantly at half to keep at 80......lol.....lol.....i think that people should take advice in from everybody and make thier own decision on what is best for them....that is what you did so no worries there.......i will always be here to open my mouth when i feel it needs opening lol......take it or leave it....i dont get hurt if you go elsewhere.....we have to choose whats best for us in the end......i like hearing it from all angles.....i hope this mmakes sense as i hafve medicated and decided to ramble evidentlylol....anyway there is no feelings of anything but loove for you and your ventures Dennise
....
Oh and sorry but i dont feel like you are dismissing my advice.....i dont give advice expecting for you to Do It cause i said so
never really worked for me either.... just sorta gives me a headache.....
...
