MMJ All The Way!

[Wingman420]

Hello I am a brand new RI MMJ patient whose signed application, Dr's declaration and statement that Medical Marijuana's benefits would far outweigh any health or associatted risk is now in the hands of the RIDOH.

I am told by the accepting clerk my application, medical records, and medical history, will be discussed, reviewed, and a determination made as to if I qualify within 15 days.

I wish to thank all who encouraged me to try MMJ and thought this modality of treatment would assist me greatly.

I am very fortunate to have the support of the older members here Thank you
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[The Weed]

wingman580 that is the best news I have heard all day Buddy! The band is Boston performing "Don't Look Back"

 

[Wingman420]

wingman580 that is the best new I have heard all day Buddy! The band is Boston performing "Don't Look Back"

My friend I am in the best mood since I became disabled I have hope past opiod therapy, Thank God

Thanks to all who helped and were so cool!

 

[BWC BayArea]

Congrats!

Hey bro, I'm glad u were able to find a legal and healthier alternative to conventional/commercial medication. How long has RI had MMJ laws?

 

[The Weed]

In 2006, Rhode Island became the eleventh state since 1996 that was a one year trial. Then voted for permanent medical cannabis on June 28 2007.

 

[BWC BayArea]

How does the state regulate MMJ? RI have dispensaries? Can patients grow their own? Is MMJ taxed? Do they have a voluntary card system? Just tryna see how it measures up to CA laws.

 

[The Weed]

(12) marijuana plants and up to two and one half (2.5) ounces of usable marijuana. The plants must be grown/stored indoors. Only 4 dispensaries More info here,..Becoming a Patient in Rhode Island - Archive. you can make better sence of it than I can BWC.

 

[BWC BayArea]

Take a Pull

BWC thanks The Weed. Here hit the cyber blunt my friend. Its that WWWW (world wide web widow), lol. That's u on the left.

 

[Wingman420]

How does the state regulate MMJ? RI have dispensaries? Can patients grow their own? Is MMJ taxed? Do they have a voluntary card system? Just tryna see how it measures up to CA laws.

My friend i see you got some info on RI MMJ I think the law is a leader among how states should treat MMJ.
In 2009 there was legislation that licenses one Compassion Ctr Statewide and in 2011 there will be two more.
Please read my posts in
Medical Marijuana Facts and Information - 420 Magazine

Sincerely
Wingman580

 

[BWC BayArea]

I Read ur Posts. Leader? Dunno

My friend i see you got some info on RI MMJ I think the law is a leader among how states should treat MMJ.

I read ur posts. I wanna know how u came to this^ conclusion. In California, there's no way in hell it would've taken all that time, effort, footwork, and agony to find a doc. Yet I find it odd that u feel RI law is the leader among how states should treat MMJ. Although I respect ur right to ur opinion and have a better understanding of where ur coming from. I would like to urge u to read into statutes of other states (as well as counties and cities within them). Ur opinion may change and U may find legislative tidbits that can benefit the advancement of ur states laws. Not trying to argue, just and analytical observation.

 

[Wingman420]

How does the state regulate MMJ? RI have dispensaries? Can patients grow their own? Is MMJ taxed? Do they have a voluntary card system? Just tryna see how it measures up to CA laws.

My friend I see you got some info on RI MMJ I think RI law is a leader in MMJ legislation and how states should treat MMJ.
Please see RIPAC: Medical Marijuana in Rhode Island for complete text and all amendments.

I forgot to say MMJ in RI is regulated and administered by the RIDOH and all truthfull applications and approvals are strictly confidential and not shared with law enforcement. Their is legislative oversight of the program who is revoked from licensing, who and how many caregivers there are, a BCI (NCIC and Local) is needed for all Caregivers previous to and submitted with application, I am sure they check on this as they do their own on each applicant not requiring them to acquire one themselves due to illness, What disqualifies instantly is a previous conviction for a Drug Crime eg; selling crack or powder *******, any Schedule I,II,III,IV.V.VI Controlled Substances, it is all in the links provided

Around 2005 Thomas C Slater, a well respected man and legislator got Cancer and discovered the benefits of Medical Marijuana. In 2008 the trial became law.

6-16-2009 The Governor's veto of amended MMJ law is overidden by full Legislature.
complete timeline and events here
cannabisnews.com: medical related topics

In 2009 there was legislation that licenses one Compassion Ctr Statewide and
In 2011 there will be two more and unless legislated thats it.

I have strong feelings against big business getting this license as they will not meet the needs of patients but will certainly meet their own needs!
I believe we should gather all good info and business practices, prices etc and implement the ones that work.
Please read my posts in
Medical Marijuana Facts and Information - 420 Magazine

There is a "dog eat dog" mentality to "get rich" with this but I want to honor the late Thomas Slater and his contribution to the State and MMJ with specific ideas and practices, operating as a true non profit center, helping those who can not afford, or are too ill to assist themselves, insuring safety, confidentiality, dignity, respect and security that will be unparalleled in the MMJ community, a true leader by example.

If there are any questions or ideas please let me share them with fellow medical Marijuana patients here in RI.

Unfortunately we lost Mr. Thomas C. Slater to his illness and send our sincere gratitude and heartfelt condolences to his entire family.

The late Thomas C. Slater's son has seen fit to honor his father, and RI, with his service to the elected position his esteemed father once held.

Please say a prayer for all those who have lost the battle to their illnesses and for those who are still among us, as they may need our assitance.

I submit that all rhode Islanders and MMJ users Nationwide honor Mr Thomas C. Slater's sacrifice. As the final days of his life were spent insuring Medical Marijuana's availability to all people with serious illness looking to improve their quality of life and that of their families.

Through our actions we thank and respect Mr. Thomas C. Slater for his courageous fight to insure medical options to all Rhode Islanders.

Sincerely
Wingman580

 

[BWC BayArea]

I have strong feelings against big business getting this license as they will not meet the needs of patients but will certainly meet their own needs!

I'm with u on that one. Thomas C. Slater sounds like a cannabis warrior. What I find disturbing is that its evident that most of us have to be someone (in society's eyes) in order to get the necessary attention to begin to bring about change. I see ordinary people try to get things done politically and get a cold shoulder. Its a good thing when our legislative representatives can feel our pain. I don't think that it should take them to literally feel pain as Mr. Slater obviously did to get things done. Bottom line is its and industry and people are vying for control early on. Its a money game, plain and simple. When I get more time, I'll check those links out. Its really not about time. I been reading most of the day and want a break. Thanks wingman for ur passion in the matter and the information u've provided. brother.

 

[Wingman420]

Re: I Read ur Posts. Leader? Dunno

I read ur posts. I wanna know how u came to this^ conclusion. In California, there's no way in hell it would've taken all that time, effort, footwork, and agony to find a doc. Yet I find it odd that u feel RI law is the leader among how states should treat MMJ. Although I respect ur right to ur opinion and have a better understanding of where ur coming from. I would like to urge u to read into statutes of other states (as well as counties and cities within them). Ur opinion may change and U may find legislative tidbits that can benefit the advancement of ur states laws. Not trying to argue, just and analytical observation.

My friend Thank you my mind is always open to change as I do not claim to know all about MMJ in every state. I have read many states legislation regarding this and the limits they impose I think 12 plants "flowering" and 12 plant seedlings is better than 3 total. Also if I assign Caregivers each one (limit 2) can then grow 12 and 12 plus hold onto 2.5 ounces dried marijuana. Compassion Ctrs are not limited in the total # of plants they just need to be a designated caregiver to enjoy 12 +12, cumulative and the 2.5 oz limit is being looked at as there will not be sufficient stock for all patients. This is legislation for each patient they sign up. They are barred however from selling more than 2.5 oz dried MJ and 12 plants to any one patient in any 15 day period, this may need to be addressed for some patients.
Also the "unusable marijuana" language is very good as LE used to count and weigh "stalks, stems,seedling starts, and various other growing tools and seeds" hash, hash oil, edibles are all OK, pipes, roach clips etc which are illegal and contraband are no longer illegal etc etc I implore you to read the links I provided which supply the actual text of the legislation and advise me and other residents as to what can be improved.
As for going through hell to get a Dr, and license, it took me one Dr visit to my primary supplying an application, I admit to being very concerned as I receive Narcotics that could put the San Francisco Zoo into Orbit for a month, I think in a puritanical State like RI you will never get gramps or the blue haired lady who has lived next door for 70 yrs to vote for liberal MMJ laws, in fact RI just repealed their legal indoor prostitution law after proliferation by outside businesses of "massage parlors" "escorts", sex shops, strip clubs, book shops etc.
The same could be done to MMJ if we are not careful to obey the limits.

While my Dr's huddled up about my care I was nervous but grateful as he knows me , my meds and what might kill me, I am not stating MMJ could but the Narcotics I receive are very dangerous to even a seasoned professional. The intensity on my medical care makes me truly happy, I am the only one my kids count on all 4 all the time.
New England has some of the best medical care in the US on some fronts, and Dr's are held to a higher standard by themselves as they oversee themselves in Licensing and abuses,and are quick to revoke the career of somebody who appears to not be doing the right thing sending them packing with dishonor, there is no Dr for sale in the mainstream and the ones that are here are quickly identified and sent to prison and all Dr's know this. There was one local Dr who was fooling around with his authority and was quickly raided by State Police and DEA during office hours, computers seized all records copied, within days his license, Cancer Treatment credentials revoked, Labs he owned shuttered and closed, employees locked out of work, bldgs owned seized, right down to his family's home, he fled to the Bekka Valley in Lebanon and now practices in the capital, his wife and kids were left behind as they were stalked by Feds and State Police, they later joined him. Thats one that got away who lost millions in property, deposits, investments never mind his practice.
All the good Dr's know who the quacks are as do the pharmacies the DEA and the police, there are felony laws against Dr shopping and they will send you to prison for shopping a script.
RI is definitely not CA.
If there were compassion ctrs in 1/100 of the locations as there are in CA, RI MMJ would be voted down in a special election tommorow so we have to get this right!
Remember this is home to MIT, Harvard, Brown, Yale, Massachusetts Eye and Ear Infirmary, Mass General, The Lahey Clinic, New England Journal of Medicine, Hartford Group leaders in Fire and other insurance, countless old monied families who go to Temple or Church every Sat or Sun, Catholics who still want mass in Latin, desiring Pre Vatican I cannon law, not eating meat on Fridays through Lent and beyond, countless other leaders in Medicine World Wide, there are families that have lived here and never moved away for almost 400 yrs, this is the birthplace of the Nation, Plymouth Rock, Old Boy Networks, etc etc.
I always say it's a great place to get away from but to raise children it is the best, there is nobody I can not find everything about are they safe to be around kids? habits? secret addictions? secret sex lives? almost nothing about people is sacred here remember Peyton Place?
That was CT and New England can be far worse.
By the same token it has been almost impossible for law enforcement to break thru cultural and ethnic barriers in some areas, allowing for a certain type of justice when needed.
Sorry I ramble but there are literally tons of people that live here who think they need NASA clearance to get on the freeway or go to the mall, its something we learn to live with as the good far outweighs the bad.
Do I know all? NO.
Can RI MMJ law be made Better? YES.
Can you assist with much needed information I will bring forward?
If there are any questions please feel free to ask I welcome any suggestions, affirmations, or criticisms, they are all respected.
Thanks and any thoughts or ideas please help, I appreciate you reading and writing me.
Sincerely,
Wingman580

 

[Wingman420]

I'm with u on that one. Thomas C. Slater sounds like a cannabis warrior. What I find disturbing is that its evident that most of us have to be someone (in society's eyes) in order to get the necessary attention to begin to bring about change. I see ordinary people try to get things done politically and get a cold shoulder. Its a good thing when our legislative representatives can feel our pain. I don't think that it should take them to literally feel pain as Mr. Slater obviously did to get things done. Bottom line is its and industry and people are vying for control early on. Its a money game, plain and simple. When I get more time, I'll check those links out. Its really not about time. I been reading most of the day and want a break. Thanks wingman for ur passion in the matter and the information u've provided. brother.

Thats why I am crying out asking for HELP!
We have to make this work!
If not there will be NO RI MMJ

Please, any advice pass it on.
Sincerely,
Wingman580

 

[BWC BayArea]

Damn wingman, I had no clue they go after doctors like that out there. I guess I'm used to the opposite. Hell there's a doc out there here that can't take female patients because he allegedly sexually assaulted a former patient he was involved with. I don't wanna name names because I saw the cut and pasted version of his court and medical board papers. I can't verify this 100%, however I am confident in the info because when I went a woman was turned away and she didn't know why. I sent her to the webpage I read the info on the day b4. My primary care provider was afraid to lose his job, so he refused to recommend it. I must say that he and the nurse were intrigued to say the least when I broke out my meds to show them. I actually sat there and tried to educate them on our laws but obviously job security is more important (which is understandable). I explained yes, its illegal to prescribe it, but to recommend it is another story. It still wasn't enough to sway him. I hope he remembers me and others like us at the poles. This is what drove me to find another doc and there are quite a few to choose from here in CA. I am disheartened to hear of ur situation in Rhode Island. Hang in there soldier and keep fighting the good fight for u, ur family, and other statesmen who could benefit from the medicine. U may want to check with Americans for Safe Access or NORML for advice on finding a doc in ur area or at least a better way to legally protect urself.

 

[Wingman420]

Damn wingman, I had no clue they go after doctors like that out there. I guess I'm used to the opposite. Hell there's a doc out there here that can't take female patients because he allegedly sexually assaulted a former patient he was involved with. I don't wanna name names because I saw the cut and pasted version of his court and medical board papers. I can't verify this 100%, however I am confident in the info because when I went a woman was turned away and she didn't know why. I sent her to the webpage I read the info on the day b4. My primary care provider was afraid to lose his job, so he refused to recommend it. I must say that he and the nurse were intrigued to say the least when I broke out my meds to show them. I actually sat there and tried to educate them on our laws but obviously job security is more important (which is understandable). I explained yes, its illegal to prescribe it, but to recommend it is another story. It still wasn't enough to sway him. I hope he remembers me and others like us at the poles. This is what drove me to find another doc and there are quite a few to choose from here in CA. I am disheartened to hear of ur situation in Rhode Island. Hang in there soldier and keep fighting the good fight for u, ur family, and other statesmen who could benefit from the medicine. U may want to check with Americans for Safe Access or NORML for advice on finding a doc in ur area or at least a better way to legally protect urself.

BWC BayArea
Thank you for the understanding, Dr shopping here is a problem for those who do it. If (Q) Dr does not agree with treatment options and writes it down in the file I am pretty much DOA anywhere else. Unless the new Dr is willing to go against the former and has releases and knowledge of diagnosis prognosis, and complete treatment history. If Dr (Q) states in his professional opinion in the medical record that: Pt is seeking specific meds, narcotics, or Controlled Substances, without injury, or legitimate need, and then discharges you from his practice (totally the norm regardless).
Then this is on your permanent record with this provider and significantly hampers your efforts at the treatment you desire, in fact you may never receive that specific therapy no matter what the benefits.
Because no Dr will go against the recommendations of another unless:
1. They know your injuries or conditions are substantiated and bona fide, have written, signed proof thereof eg; scans, MRI's,surgical reports, X-rays, etc
2. They know the new modality of treatment will not harm you or your family eg; not contraindicated with any part of ongoing therapies
3. They know Pt. is fully capable mentally and physically of taking meds as directed and can store successfully,without leakage, theft, or diversion

This rarely happens but is OK as the new Dr had better be sure they are correct in their assumptions and diagnosis for if the Pt obtains and then diverts medications both the Pt. and the Dr can be Criminally prosecuted and Civilly responsible to all State and Federal Agencies.

The new Dr must also be comfortable with the relationship they have with you eg;Pt is truthfull, responsive, and receptive to any all directed therapies and or medications or lack thereof, in which the Dr then has to assume all medical liability and Medical Board of Review oversight or investigation.

Dr's and Authorities have many tools to "look into" Pt behavior, pharmacy records, and insurance histories to insure Pt is: following instructions, truthfull and responsible, and does not enjoy multiple Rx's for the same diagnosis.

Failure with any of these behaviors or actions may constitute a breach of Dr / Pt relationship and could be a sign of a substance abuse problem where the Pt is recommended and or referred, encouraged to seek professional mental health and or substance abuse help
This is not medical advise as I am not a healthcare professional and should not be used to defraud, embellish, or to seek medications. Dr's and all healthcare officials have been trained to seperate these behaviors from legitimate sick people and refer these special cases to the US Atty, The DEA, Police, and Insurance Investigators. Remember Insurance fraud is a Crime and in most States a Felony punishable by Imprisonment and or Fines.

It is too bad about the old Dr you had. It sounds like he did not know or was not fully educated about MMJ and its ramifications.
RI has a great law that allows Dr's the right to recommend MMJ without fear of any retaliation click here to read text: RIPAC: Medical Marijuana in Rhode Island

Also the RIDOH who provides the application also provides a typed document that is the "Rules and Regulations regarding Medical Marijuana" that I brought along to the Dr's office for him to read and review. He knew the rules and regs from a conference he attended on the topic but looked at them anyway. I think being prepared helps give the Dr info if he was without it.

I will advise further that if any Pt thinks he/she can and does bulls#*t their Dr be advised you are risking more than your freedom, you are risking your life as medications that are not needed can cause serious side effects including DEATH.

I take medications that are definitely needed and legitimate in every way and while the suffering I endure from prolonged exposure to these foreign man made contaminants is less a problem than if I did not posses and take as directed, there are definite casual relationships between them

Thank You for your understanding and patience,
Wingman580

 

[BWC BayArea]

Very informative. I see some1 in RI really did some planning and footwork in the legislature. Looks like they may have studied other models and improved upon them. Kinda hard to say for sure. U ever have any questions bro PM me (after u get 25 posts) or u can reach me on my profile page via visitors messages.

 

[Wingman420]

Re: Congrats!

Hey bro, I'm glad u were able to find a legal and healthier alternative to conventional/commercial medication. How long has RI had MMJ laws?

THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH BWC!!!!

Not many people can appreciate this. KUDOS TO YOU [/SIZE][/B]

Since just recently trial period 2006 voted on and approved for permanency 2008
Compassion Ctr and amendments were vetoed by Gov. Carcieri, Then overriden by The Complete Legislature Summer 2009, 6-16-2009
for the text click Here: Chapter 09-016

 

[Wingman420]

Damn wingman, I had no clue they go after doctors like that out there. I guess I'm used to the opposite. Hell there's a doc out there here that can't take female patients because he allegedly sexually assaulted a former patient he was involved with. I don't wanna name names because I saw the cut and pasted version of his court and medical board papers. I can't verify this 100%, however I am confident in the info because when I went a woman was turned away and she didn't know why. I sent her to the webpage I read the info on the day b4. My primary care provider was afraid to lose his job, so he refused to recommend it. I must say that he and the nurse were intrigued to say the least when I broke out my meds to show them. I actually sat there and tried to educate them on our laws but obviously job security is more important (which is understandable). I explained yes, its illegal to prescribe it, but to recommend it is another story. It still wasn't enough to sway him. I hope he remembers me and others like us at the poles. This is what drove me to find another doc and there are quite a few to choose from here in CA. I am disheartened to hear of ur situation in Rhode Island. Hang in there soldier and keep fighting the good fight for u, ur family, and other statesmen who could benefit from the medicine. U may want to check with Americans for Safe Access or NORML for advice on finding a doc in ur area or at least a better way to legally protect urself.

Thank You for your considered understanding. I am grateful to hear about the other side of the coin as it were. Yes the Dr.'s here are mostly afraid of the Authorities and you would think pharmacies are their colleagues.. NOT. Pharmacists are the first ones to inform the DEA, State and local police, and the Med Board of any suspected, or perceived, abuses not those substantiated. All pharmacies are tied into a statewide computer system by law that monitors what Dr u saw when, what RX was issued and filled and when along with strict instructions as what not to fill once a specific med is dispensed. It is unbelievable and a complete pain in the ass for those of us doing nothing wrong.

 

[Wingman420]

Very informative. I see some1 in RI really did some planning and footwork in the legislature. Looks like they may have studied other models and improved upon them. Kinda hard to say for sure. U ever have any questions bro PM me (after u get 25 posts) or u can reach me on my profile page via visitors messages.

Thomas C. Slater definitely looked at the CA. law and tried very hard to bring many facets of this to RI ie; Compassion Ctrs, expanded grow limits like the possesion limit language stating: "12 flowering or budding, and 12 seedlings" that is the best so far I have read Nationwide also edibles, hash, oils, extracts, and good "unusable marijuana" that is beneficial to the Pt.
We need the help, assistance, and advice of CA. residents and others in all MMJ States who are familiar with issues that now confront us about Compassion Ctrs, and distribution. As I stated in earlier posts and threads we must get this correct or those opposed will petition the court for injunctive relief, and petition the Board of Elections for a special election to eradicate the program in it's entirety.
Colorado's MMJ is ambiguous and open to interpretation. I have read some people claiming "my Dr wrote me a Rx for 50 plants", "I got one for 35 plants", or other foolishness. Could you imagine someone who new sh#t about growing trying to maintain that, or bring to harvest? How about drying, curing, and keeping it safe? Nah, not that many plants out of the gate. An experienced grower under perfect conditions can handle almost anything but even they will "work up to" a large garden.