Thoughts, comments: entering week 3 bloom

[sKyKAI]

Personal Mystery seedbank… definitely some landrace qualities in a few… yes some of the seeds have been saved from the mid 2000s. Miss those old sativa DOMs. The low rider is doing quite wonderfully!! Citrus gravy profile… tall girls are staying thin… the veg had issues… I was able to resurrect into flower when I came back to take over the grow.

Organic topsoil/foxfarm ocean forest mix, RO pH’d water, light nutrient schedule…
1000 watt HID… experimenting…….. using Metal Halide for flowering… old timers swear by it… I understand spectrum variances given by HPS, which most who use HIDs go from MH to HPS….

 

[Phytoplankton]

They look very good, they certainly have enough N, the leaves are very dark green. The buds are forming nicely.

 

[sKyKAI]

They look very good, they certainly have enough N, the leaves are very dark green. The buds are forming nicely.

Yessir… thank you. My nutrient regimen has been minimal. The foxfarm soil provides plenty of nitrogen given its blend. During week 1 I introduced a low ratio NPK
3-8-7 granular release. I’ll likely do another feeding of but a primary phosphorus/potassium upgrade. Given their size I definitely won’t overdue on nutes, as I never have in the past; being an organic farmer… proper live-soil and quality H2O can go along way. At the end of the day… if you’re a good farmer, the qualities stem from genetics(whether seed or clone).
Appreciate the feed back. Much love

 

[KingJohnC]

The plants appear healthy. I would move the power bar and ballast from the flour to avoid an electrical hazard. If a dedicated grow tent is not within your means a frame can be constructed from 2" x 4" boards or 2" plumbing pipes to assemble a grow area and increase the amount of reflected available light to the plants. I would use either a pond liner or rolled linoleum to protect the flooring from abrasion marks and water damage while moisture sealing the area under the pots. I started with reflective Mylar emergency blankets. If you intend to continue growing after this current grow upgrading the reflective surface to black and white panda plastic will recoup the difference of the electrical cost in increased lighting available to the plants and harvest yield within a single grow.


When it comes to the use of Metal Halide versus High Pressure Sodium High Intensity Lighting to flower cannabis plants a patient collective I have been involved with did testing to clarify which is more suitable. It has been determined that the use of Metal Halide lighting to flower cannabis only in conjunction when only using premium light bulbs will increase cannabinoid resins and terpene production but at the expense of overall yield compare to the use of High Pressure Sodium Light for flowering cannabis.

The origin of this confusion is speculated that either the person being the source relaying of or the person the information was relayed to could not keep the details straight and then was so tied to a personal belief in their own correctness that even repeated harvested weights can not convince the grower of his own proven repeated harvests results. I have also been present at grow shops when new employees would give information backward stating High Pressure Sodium for vegetative growth and Metal Halide for Flower. I once joked with a store owner who overheard his employee improperly relay this information "Is it a good thing these new LED lights don't have switches to confuse", my next visit the owner relayed someone must have listened to our conversation and showed me a sales brochure leaflet of the new Version 2 model now has included switches.

If you desired the highest yield of highly resinous cannabis while only using High Intensity Discharge lighting, committed to using High Intensity Lighting for flowering the best of both spectrum's can overlap the coverage area by either using dual bulb light reflector canopy's or by stagger mounting several reflector canopy's above the same coverage area. Ideally to compensate for light spectrum diffusion a Metal Halide light reflector canopy would be used at each end and in the centre a High Pressure Sodium light reflector canopy to compensate for the Metal Halide's weaker effective flowering distance from the light source.

The answer is No, when premium light bulbs for both Metal Halide and High Pressure Sodium are used to flower cannabis the harvest yield does not double. The increased equipment and electrical costs are not compensated proportionally to the increase of available light. At best an increased Yield of 1.3 x grams is the best harvest weight. There is a practical limit on how much light a cannabis plant can convert to flower bud mass.

 

[Bill284]

Personal Mystery seedbank… definitely some landrace qualities in a few… yes some of the seeds have been saved from the mid 2000s. Miss those old sativa DOMs. The low rider is doing quite wonderfully!! Citrus gravy profile… tall girls are staying thin… the veg had issues… I was able to resurrect into flower when I came back to take over the grow.

Organic topsoil/foxfarm ocean forest mix, RO pH’d water, light nutrient schedule…
1000 watt HID… experimenting…….. using Metal Halide for flowering… old timers swear by it… I understand spectrum variances given by HPS, which most who use HIDs go from MH to HPS….

Hey @sKyKAI Beautiful garden my friend.
Further to what @KingJohnC mentioned about the power bar, do you have a smoke detector in there?
Check this thread out my friend and welcome to 420magazine.

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Stay safe
Bill

 

[SmokingWings]

The plants appear healthy. I would move the power bar and ballast from the flour to avoid an electrical hazard.

Plants are looking good.

I cringe, however, when I notice exposed electrical connections laying on the floor anywhere close to a source of water. Especially in set-ups where a power strip or the end of an extension is close to the saucer or water source. It does not take much and water is flowing across the floor.

As one grower's assistant mentioned to me years ago, no water above the waist and no electrical below the waist. Something to keep in mind.

Or, the saying, Mr Electric does not play well with Mr Water.

 

[bluter]

see everyone has twigged on the electrical connections. it's best to get them up and sorted out. the ballasts are the most vulnerable.

also as mentioned mh is crap in flower. i've done it before when there was no choice or i had to clear everything out and close a grow. buds were always smaller than what can be achieved. plants look great aside from the lack of spectrum.

 

[sKyKAI]

Good morning all

I appreciate everyone’s input and take all advice/suggestions into consideration. As I believe growers should be a community with a common goal of a shared wealth of knowledge. Whether agreed upon or not, I believe it is proper to hear out all suggestions and be able to mediate beliefs without negativity or “my way is the only right way” mentality.

First, I completely agree with safety first… the ballast and electrical strip do sit at least knee level; ballast on a shelving feature built onto the frame on the of the left side, and the power strip on a recessed shelf unit in the room. Needed access behind the frame and into the shelving unit that day; so needless to say the ballast is back elevated and I have integrated a coverbox/socket cover over the wall outlet. The exposed cord running across the floor is from a ground fan that is moved around from time to time; these shots are from cleaning day as well, As I highly believe in cleanliness and organization within any grow setup/room; and all other aspects of our lives. Smoke detector is a yes.

I concur with all counsel associated with electrical concern.

The frame setup for the hood is a mockup from a bunkbed set. The thin mylar outlay on the wall was put up years ago and I don’t believe it’s reflectivity is making a difference; It just hasn’t been removed from the north and west walls of the room.

Many growers love their tents, as it does its job accordingly with proper setup.

As I had mentioned before, this cycle was a cooperative with an “apprentice” (close friend) as I was away on work for all but the two last weeks of veg. Trial period for him; being back I have done what I can to improve upon several issues Denoted in Previous post. Unfortunately I couldn’t delegate the grow, being gone around 6 weeks from the beginning growth of the seedlings.
I don’t think I will rebuttal on anyones HID
credences; I won’t refute personal claims on MH vs HPS; as we all know the research and chemical science analysis on lighting choices(bulbs) has been done with due diligence over the years; the science is the science.
As I returned to the involvement in the grow, My concerns given this cycle are far from intended yield. Making the best out of what I can with the given situation and responsibility at hand.

I thoroughly enjoy the aforementioned “brotherhood” of the growing community and will always be open to suggestions for giving and receiving advice.

Appreciate all who took time to comment and suggest.
Much Love
skYKAi

 

[sKyKAI]

Everyday is a wonderful day

 

[bluter]

yes it is.

 

[sKyKAI]

Updates from winter crop… late april harvest… Proper cure … patience pays!!!

 

[sKyKAI]

Photo OP of the supersilver/amnesia Haze

 

[sKyKAI]

Haze and SourTangie … 3 month cure….

 

[Bill284]

Updates from winter crop… late april harvest… Proper cure … patience pays!!!

Good morning my friend I hope you are well.
I'm afraid you have made an error.
When your girls are finished flowering and building for you their pistils turn red and crinkle in.
Do not harvest until those pistils have turned red.
You probably had 3 weeks of building and putting on weight left.
When those pistils are all red she will slow right down on nutrient uptake.
Then check tricks.
Clear/ cloudy energetic feeling.
Cloudy/amber relaxed feeling.
Be patient next time my friend you are missing 1/3 of your harvest.





Stay safe
Bill284

 

[sKyKAI]

Definitely always up for analysis and appreciate other POVs. And I definitely don’t disagree with your comments… but if you only knew(way too long of a story lol)

Also Filters and lighting skew photos. Up close minds eyeview and the jeweler loupe… there were several phenos and trial seeds from that cycle.. it was time… the veg period was a disaster as I had to “rescue” the grow so to speak. They were stressed to a point so far along in the flower and they just couldn’t produce… they gave me all they had…. Trust me I wasn’t planning even getting viable bloom.

These shots were 12-14 days before harvest

 

[sKyKAI]

In general I appreciate sativa land race qualities. I don’t seek highest thc levels… the bud structure, terp pro, and buzz are darling. Regardless, The smoke is smooth as jazz.

 

[HappyHazmat88]

We've all cut early from one point or another... And actually my very first harvest was about where you were with your readiness based on pics.....the smoke was clean and potent.....i do agree a bit longer (1-2 weeks) would have helped with yield if nothing else.


But you finished and they look good, it's time to enjoy YOUR product

Any ideas for next run? Maybe some seeds from our sponsors ?

 

[Bill284]

Definitely always up for analysis and appreciate other POVs. And I definitely don’t disagree with your comments… but if you only knew(way too long of a story lol)

Also Filters and lighting skew photos. Up close minds eyeview and the jeweler loupe… there were several phenos and trial seeds from that cycle.. it was time… the veg period was a disaster as I had to “rescue” the grow so to speak. They were stressed to a point so far along in the flower and they just couldn’t produce… they gave me all they had…. Trust me I wasn’t planning even getting viable bloom.

These shots were 12-14 days before harvest

Good job on saving the grow.
At least you got a harvest my friend, nice work.




Stay safe
Bill284

 

[sKyKAI]

We've all cut early from one point or another... And actually my very first harvest was about where you were with your readiness based on pics.....the smoke was clean and potent.....i do agree a bit longer (1-2 weeks) would have helped with yield if nothing else.


But you finished and they look good, it's time to enjoy YOUR product

Any ideas for next run? Maybe some seeds from our sponsors ?

PM me for details. I’ve been doing a pheno hunt project…. Seeds from the 2000s/2010s… I have some old school “landrace” quality seeds I work with

 

[bluter]

Seeds from the 2000s/2010s… I have some old school “landrace” quality seeds I work with

never thought i'd see someone young enough to claim decade old seeds as "old school" ...