Hi, I'm the led guy.I've been posting the results of my led experiments-just about to start a thread now. I just want to show the people that need them-micro growers- that they actually work, and work well-in small spaces.Right now a small space is all I have- 2-4sq ft areas-4 ft high, and leds( the right ones) have helped me get the best out of these spaces.But the proof is in the pudding so look out for any led threads. peace