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[Winginit]

And it's both plants that are on the same feed and schedule .

 

[Old TimingMan]

And it's both plants that are on the same feed and schedule .

I would flush them a couple times with plain RO water PH'd to 6.0, check your run-off each time, if they start to perk up water with half of your nute schedule and keep a eye on them, a combination of the stress and nute build up could be the cause.

I would up-pot them onto a 5 gal smart pot with a 80/20 coco/perlite mix a week before you start the flower cycle for their final home.

Good luck!

 

[Weaselcracker]

Bummer. What ph are you using and is your meter calibrated and accurate?

 

[Winginit]

Bummer. What ph are you using and is your meter calibrated and accurate?

5.9 and yes just calibrated a week ago

 

[Winginit]

I would flush them a couple times with plain RO water PH'd to 6.0, check your run-off each time, if they start to perk up water with half of your nute schedule and keep a eye on them, a combination of the stress and nute build up could be the cause.

I would up-pot them onto a 5 gal smart pot with a 80/20 coco/perlite mix a week before you start the flower cycle for their final home.

Good luck!

Isn't it bad to uppot autos?
And my roots are growing thru my pots won't that hurt them to transplant?

 

[Old TimingMan]

Isn't it bad to uppot autos?
And my roots are growing thru my pots won't that hurt them to transplant?

I missed the Auto part, I am doing photos and you are right, keep them as they are, just flush them a couple times...mine looked kind of droopy after I gave them a hard trimming a week before switching to 12/12, they recovered well within 12 hrs. Try flushing them to 20-30% run-off the next 2 watering's and see if they perk up. Are you using RO water?

 

[Weaselcracker]

I wasn't quite sure from your previous answer how often you water, but it sounds like once a day. Are you watering to runoff when you water?

 

[Winginit]

I missed the Auto part, I am doing photos and you are right, keep them as they are, just flush them a couple times...mine looked kind of droopy after I gave them a hard trimming a week before switching to 12/12, they recovered well within 12 hrs. Try flushing them to 20-30% run-off the next 2 watering's and see if they perk up. Are you using RO water?

So I tested run off and results are as follows

PH:6.6
PPM:135

And I use rain water.

 

[Winginit]

I wasn't quite sure from your previous answer how often you water, but it sounds like once a day. Are you watering to runoff when you water?

Yes once a day on watering and I water to run off every other day.

 

[Winginit]

Should I be mixing nutes and letting them sit for 24 hours so ph can fluctuate? or is it OK to mix nutes then water right after mixing?

 

[Old TimingMan]

So I tested run off and results are as follows

PH:6.6
PPM:135

And I use rain water.

That is very similar results and schedule to my 2 gals in coco, do you see any signs of pests? How close are your lights? From your photos the leaves seem to be ok, just droopy, and I find my lower leaves will start to lighten as they age. Is there anything you did different right before or after you trimmed them?

 

[Winginit]

I didn't do any trimming, I did pony tail for a a few days and a little lst/bowl training and they would always perk back up the next day but after I increased my nutes from ppm:400 to 450 they started adopting this droopy lazy personality .lol

 

[Old TimingMan]

Should I be mixing nutes and letting them sit for 24 hours so ph can fluctuate? or is it OK to mix nutes then water right after mixing?

If it is rain water, no, letting water sit for 24 hrs applies to tap water to allow the chlorine to evaporate. Is it possible that something got into your catch barrel?

 

[Winginit]

Lights are 18 inches away

 

[Winginit]

I appreciate everyone's input I really do
Credit to Weasel and old timer .

You guys are awesome even if you can't help me diagnose at least you tried!!

Kudos guys.

 

[Winginit]

I ran a gallon of water PH 6.0 for the first plant and the runoff was 6.6 ppm 135
The second plant I ran a gallon of water ph 5.9 and run off was 6.4 ppm 150

 

[Winginit]

I did have one batch of rain water I caught that looked darker/dirtier than the normal so that could be possible... maybe I'll go back to distilled water

 

[Old TimingMan]

Weasel is more experienced than me in coco, so his diagnosis will have more merit, I just flipped my photos to 12/12 and did a 3 day 6.0 flush/watering to wash out the veg nutes, they responded like nothing happened any different.

I have not tried to ponytail as I have read that that training is geared for autos, but I did read not to leave them bunched up too long as the fans may not like it...

I I can find the journal or thread I will link it.

 

[Winginit]

But then again I have 2 seedlings behind them getting the same water and they are doing fine....

 

[Winginit]

Weasel is more experienced than me in coco, so his diagnosis will have more merit, I just flipped my photos to 12/12 and did a 3 day 6.0 flush/watering to wash out the veg nutes, they responded like nothing happened any different.

I have not tried to ponytail as I have read that that training is geared for autos, but I did read not to leave them bunched up too long as the fans may not like it...

I I can find the journal or thread I will link it.

Thanks brother.

Hopefully more people will start to comment and suggest something.

Seems like there are a lot of ghost followers on this forum who look at threads but don't say anything unfortunately. Bums me out when I get 300+ views and 10 replies but oh well. I'll figure it out with yours and weasels help and myself haha.