WC's 1st Time Grow with 400w HPS/MH Think Different Autoflower

[WyldeChylde]

Clawing leaves are a sign of the PPM being too high, or the water being too warm. Listen now and believe it later: "1100 is very high for hydro, and I would only go that high in the 6-8th week of flower, and only then if I was 100% sure the strain needed it. Check the temps of your bucket water before you do anything and make sure they are under 72."

I've never heard of anyone adding as much tea as you're adding. Typically, for DWC, the suggested dose is 8oz a couple times a week. Did someone suggest you use that much tea? Trust me, I think beneficial tea is the way to go in DWC, but I don't know if you will run into any consequences by adding too much.

>>>I'm adding directly to the res now because I'm using both the activated tea as well as concentrated shots of the GW and the VDJ I figure the carbo load will help to extend the lives of the bennies as well as give the plants a boost of sugar.

It is best to only feed the beneficials outside the reservoir. Sugary products can trigger a slime outbreak. There are good AND bad bacteria in the bucket. So we try to STARVE the bad bacteria in the res.

I won't bother you with any more advice on high PPM or carbs / sugar products. Proceed at your own risk ;-)

I will be cutting the PPM's down a bit after this res. So far I have not seen ANY sign of nute burn other than the leaf curl I'm starting to see now. No tip burn no nothing.

I've done my research on this particular strain and it is a heavy feeder. Think Different, look it up.

I add 2 cups of tea every day to the res. Sometimes I add a couple cups to the root crown as well so far I haven't noticed any detrimental side effects and believe me I look for them. My roots are VERY healthy on both plants. I also add a half gallon to each plant of stump tea once a week that I get free from the hydro store. I add this directly to the root crown so the rock wool filters out the organic stuff so it doesn't hit the res. I've also taken to adding a teaspoon of GW every couple days directly to the res as well, sort of a booster shot. If any pathogen can gain a foot hold with all the good stuff I've got boiling in the res then it's one badass bacteria.

I'm well aware of how sugary products can cause an outbreak, I've had one, it wasn't fun and it wasn't pretty, it was allowed to happen because I made a noob assumption about how beneficial bacteria works, that assumption has since been corrected. On a side note plants also require sugar at about the phase that I'm in which is why I'm back to adding it to the res.

Temps I assume are below 72 I don't have a thermometer at the moment. Since swapping to bloom and swapping the light the temps have dropped from low 80's to around 74-75 I also leave the door to the tent open and the surrounding temp is 67 so I'm going to assume that my res is lower in temp than what my light is pushing out.

I don't mind the advice I truly don't your growing method is the one that caught my eye and it's one I'd like to duplicate in the immediate future. I'm growing this strain because I want some weed quick instead of paying 100 bucks a quarter. And also since I'm extremely low on cash I can't afford the entire setup I'd need to duplicate your grows.

So far my plants tell me their ok with the high ppm for now. If they weren't trust me I'd be changing out the res everyday until I got it right. My plants get inspected multiple times a day. So far this leaf clawing which may or may not be a temporary thing and a slight cal deficiency, which I understand is normal for an auto, are the only things I'm seeing other than that my plants are growing like gangbusters.

I don't mean to call you out or sound like I'm being argumentative, that's not my intent. I've read every word you've written on this site. and I can't wait to implement your style. So please feel free to chime in with the advice as often as you please.


Regards,

Wylde

 

[WyldeChylde]

so it's day 32 (huzzah)

I cut down the PPM on righty by removing a gallon of nute solution and replacing it with regular water PPM's where at about 800 last night. Today their at aprox 930 I assume that is from the plant drinking water.

I also mixed up a gal of water with 5ml of CalMag for a foliar spray which I sprayed my plants with while I was checking the res. I've been noticing a slow...creep of yellow areas and some small rust spots starting to progress up the plant. According to the research I've done a magnesium deficiency can seriously reduce your harvest...not something I want to tangle with, so a calmag foliar feed it is.

I'm going to be flushing my plants tomorrow before redoing each res so I can get rid of salt build up in my medium that may be causing a cal/mag lockout.

I'm going to try and get PPM down to around 600 or so.

Sorry I haven't been posting pics lately it's just a huge PITA right now and I can't really be bothered. Suffice it to say each plant is aprox 14" tall and pretty bushy. Pics later I suppose.


WC

 

[WyldeChylde]

02/22/14 day 33

Flushed both plants with 3 gallons of water each pulled aprox 500 ppm out of each basket of rockwool

Remixed each res down to aprox 600-650 PPM

Each Res is 5.7 - 5.8 PH

Each res is 3 gallons

GMB

G .5 ml/ltr
M 1 ml/ltr
B 1.5 ml/ltr
B52 .5 ml/ltr
Rhino Skin .5 ml/ltr
VDJ .5 ml/ltr
GW 1/2 tsp/3gal
CalMag 5ml/gal
2 cups of tea.


Righty has what I believe to be a magnesium deficiency trying to make it's way up to the newer growth. I've foliar fed with a calmag solution twice in the past two days per plant.

Root growth is looking pretty good new root shoots are nice and white and fuzzy. Older root growth is pretty decent with strong lateral offshoots.

Will wait for 24 hrs and add some carbo load to the res for bennies/plant to munch on.

Pics

Roots

Both Plants

Righty

Lefty

Magnesium Deficiency on Righty

so far so good I guess yeah?

 

[Kid156]

Looking Great WC!!! Beautiful plants you got there!!!

 

[WyldeChylde]

Looking Great WC!!! Beautiful plants you got there!!!

thank you good sir.

 

[Artopex]

Looking good !

 

[WyldeChylde]

So today is day 34 and almost to the halfway mark.

Both plants had a low PH around 5.4 or so so I raised each plant to 6.0

Righty has a res with a PPM of 575

Lefty has a res with a PPM of 500

Fed each plant 1 cup of tea and a CalMag foliar feed.

Each plant is pretty close to being 16"

I forgot to get picks of Righty so today will just have to be a Lefty extravaganza.

Pics

 

[G-daddy]

Looking good WC, nice pics also!

 

[SavinPeace]

Looks good,

 

[s1ingblade]

so I have what appears to be a greenish algae on the surface of my top layer of rock wool. It's not sever just here and there mostly in two places. Can somebody pls tell me if I should worry about this?

So sorry ive been absent.
The algae isnt going to cause huge probs. I get it to but i use a layer of rock to block the light.
Feel free to pm me anytime

 

[WyldeChylde]

Thank you everybody for the compliments I certainly do appreciate them.

So today is day 35 and this puts me at the halfway mark of what is hopefully going to be a 70 day finish. Depending on how they look at the end they may go another 5-10 days

Both plants are eating and drinking quite well I think so I may start seeing some good growth in the next couple of days/weeks

I gave each plant 10ml of Big Bud just to give them a taste of it as well as their booster shots of Tea and GW also each plant got a 10ml dose of carboload

Righty

PPM 530 down from 575
PH 6.0 corrected up from 5.4

Lefty

PPM 440 down from 500
PH 5.9 corrected up from 5.4

Both plants have healthy roots and strong growth. I've been foliar feeding with CalMag these past few days in an effort to arrest what I thought was a magnesium deficiency, I'm not sure if it's working.

Both plants got a half a gallon top off

Incidentally ever since I swapped out my MH for the HPS I've noticed an 8 degree dif in temp. Daytime temp is around 74-75 with a 40-50% RH and Nighttime temp of 65-66 with a 30-40% RH. I feel I'm pretty dialed in on my environment for the most part.

I was thinking about doing a trim on each plant to tidy up the lower ratty stuff.

So lets have MOAR PICZ

Regards,


Wylde

 

[G-daddy]

Your girls are coming along very nice, reps to you sir and keep up the good work

 

[Whoknowwho]

I´m also thinking of doing my own first setup with the same 400w and 4x4 tent. Really enjoying the reading

 

[WyldeChylde]

Your girls are coming along very nice, reps to you sir and keep up the good work

thank you for the reps and the kind words.

 

[WyldeChylde]

I´m also thinking of doing my own first setup with the same 400w and 4x4 tent. Really enjoying the reading

My tent in veg was a little hot at around 85 or so degrees so you'll have to keep heat management in mind.

 

[WyldeChylde]

Day 37

Both plants are eating and drinking quite a bit as both res are down pretty hard in both water and nutes

Lefty PPM 250 down from a 500PPM starting res 3 days ago. also down 1 gal water. PH adjusted to 6.0

Righty PPM 330 down from 575PPM starting res 3 days ago. Also down 1 gal water. PH adjusted to 6.0

Both plants where topped off with water, calmag, 10ml bigbud and half gal stump tea

Both plants are also 18" tall today

I'll post pics when I have some flowering going on.

 

[SavinPeace]

How are things going

 

[David Bowman]

How did this grow turn out?

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[steeders]

So it occurred to me today that I have an 8.5x9.5x8.0 ft room that's being used currently as a "cat room" I figure once I get a couple of grows under my belt in the tent I may just go ahead and convert the free room. Will need more light and more everything else but...cross that bridge when I come to it..

watcha think?

thats a good size room for it