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    Re: PLEASE Help!!! URGENT! 1st time grower! Hybrid problems and purple kush!

    Quote Originally Posted by LushezAmber89 View Post
    Hello! I'm also new at this! I'm not sure how it's supposed to be done but here's what I do:

    I go up top to the link that says "Grow Room" because that's what most of my questions concern. I look through some of the forums and click on the one that most likely my thread will deal with. Once i've done that, I go to "Forum Tools" and use the drop down for "Post a New Thread".

    Hopefully that helps!
    Thanks that advice was awsome this hole site is amazing I even started a journal Ha ha One LUV

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    Re: PLEASE Help! URGENT! 1st time grower! Hybrid problems and purple kush!

    Ha ha ha =) Glad I could help!
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    Re: PLEASE Help! URGENT! 1st time grower! Hybrid problems and purple kush!

    It is not normal for leaves to fall off during flower. yes at the end of flower after you stop feeding and the plant uses up stored nutrients it's normal but not right into or mid flower. This myth has to stop before people end up with leafless plants.

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    Maybe it's because I don't use nutrients? I'm not sure. I stopped adding nutrients probably in april or early may but it also has time released nutes so I'm a little bit confused.
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    Update

    *Pictures coming soon*

    After flushing, our plant has stopped dying. Damage has already been done and moved up to the node before our top but luckily it has ceased =) Big fan leaves are dying off but the smaller stems with leaves have stayed. We added a fan for extra strength and we plan on seeing health within the next two weeks and we'll update with pictures!

    We didn't get to run the errands Saturday, but we got started today and the homemade pest control thread really helped!

    Kudo's to SmokeyMacPot's Thread

    We used the soap solution but only on the soil. It seems to be an almost instantaneous killer =) We had gnat larvae and i was beginning to get worried but I feel our plant will pull through. =)

    We also stopped using two of the lights because we felt maybe 5 was too many during budding and that has also helped.

    Our purple kush is also doing better! =))))

    If anyone has any advice on growing the Purple Kush strain, feel free to suggest!

    Lots of love!
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    Re: PLEASE Help! URGENT! 1st time grower! Hybrid problems and purple kush!

    Hey Amber

    I also seem to have a gnat problem., How where you able to get ride of them
    HELP! This is what they look:
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    i'm not quite sure but that actually looks kinda like a spider mite? regardless, i used the link i posted above. i just followed the directions which say:

    Soap/Oil spray for insect pests:
    Probably the best overall insecticide recipe is made from dishwashing liquid and cooking oil. It should be applied more frequently than chemical pesticides, but then again, you don't really want to use poison inside your home. Here is the recipe:
    1/2 teaspoon dishwashing liquid
    1/4 teaspoon cooking oil
    1 quart warm water
    Mix all ingredients in a small spray bottle. Mist upper and under sides of leaves every 10 days to control mealy bug, spider mite, aphids, thrips, or any other sucking or chewing insects.
    it takes a few sprays but it worked! i only tried it on the soil but we just sprayed the leaves and everything about 30 mins ago so I'll let you know for sure how it works in a few days...

    i definitely suggest using a neem oil solution and the soap thing... perhaps some fly strips! i'll be getting those soon and i'll let you know how well they work.
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    Re: PLEASE Help! URGENT! 1st time grower! Hybrid problems and purple kush!

    I'd be willing to bet bottom dollar you are having some stomata problems as well. Stomata are literally like the nostrils of your plant and neem oil along with some of the other issues your having probably clogged them. First thing you should do is go buy some perfect water from a grocery store or run some RO water whichever is more practical. Balance it so around 6 PH and flush 2 gallons of the clear water through your soil per 1 gallon of soil. To reiterate ms fox, those soils are bad bad bad news. I think you can still salvage your grow this way though. Completely flush the soil and use clear water for at least a week thereafter and see if it helps, the wilting is probably a combination of the two (clogged stomata and nute burn) looks like heat may be an issue as well, but its hard to say without actually getting hands on dirt. wash your plants by hand with pure water on the underside but be delicate. if the insects are still an issue, or maybe in lue of all the other advice it may be best to simply transplant these guys ditch all the old soil and sanitize your whole house in a 5% bleach solution... hope things turn around for you and your ladies

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    Re: PLEASE Help! URGENT! 1st time grower! Hybrid problems and purple kush!

    and that is NOT a gnat... its a spidermite... I keep ladybugs and spiders ... let nature take its course on those guys and avoid the bad karma of killing them. Let the other bugs do that LOL

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    Thats a big 10-4.. Will DO
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    Re: PLEASE Help! URGENT! 1st time grower! Hybrid problems and purple kush!

    Oh and amber... Too much light is almost impossible, the heat from too many lights maybe, but the more lumens the better

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    Re: PLEASE Help! URGENT! 1st time grower! Hybrid problems and purple kush!

    Thanks Chek!

    First thing you should do is go buy some perfect water from a grocery store or run some RO water whichever is more practical. Balance it so around 6 PH and flush 2 gallons of the clear water through your soil per 1 gallon of soil.
    I've never heard of perfect water. Once I buy it, how would I control the pH of it if it's not at 6? Do you think distilled water would work?

    wash your plants by hand with pure water on the underside but be delicate.
    ^^Thanks! I will definitely be doing that and update on the health! It's still not healthy enough for pictures but it's doing a lot better. The insects have declined but I'm still looking for the fly strips to add around my plant.

    Too much light is almost impossible, the heat from too many lights maybe, but the more lumens the better
    I am going to go turn on the lights right now and adjust the fan. I believe it may be a heat problem like you said so hopefully the fan will do it's trick.

    Would you suggest an oscillating fan over a regular fan?

    Thanks for the advice!!!
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    Re: PLEASE Help! URGENT! 1st time grower! Hybrid problems and purple kush!

    i2damaxx,

    How's your plant doing?
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    Re: PLEASE Help! URGENT! 1st time grower! Hybrid problems and purple kush!

    Quote Originally Posted by LushezAmber89 View Post
    i2damaxx,

    How's your plant doing?
    BAD!! 3 of them have bend from the stem and i have them on miniture home made crutches:-( I had the fan to close last night... Any Suggestions?? LOOK!

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    Max,

    I'm not sure but i say lay off the fan for a bit.

    i found this so maybe it will help:

    Under natural conditions, stems undergo stress from wind, rain, and animals. These stresses, which indoor plants do not ordinarily face, strengthen the stem. Indoor stems grow sturdy enough to support their own weight and not much more. Plant energy is used to produce more light-gathering leaf tissue, rather than wind-resistant stem tissue. Stems remain slender, usually about one-half to three-quarter inches at maturity. Since you are growing the plants for their leaves and flowers, this does not present a problem.

    Healthy plants do not ordinarily need support. If many of your plants have weak or spindly stems, there is a deficiency in either light or nutrients (notably potassium). Simply not having enough light will cause the plants to elongate, with sparse foliage and weak growth. Too much red light will cause elongation, too, so make sure you include a strong blue light, if you are using incandescents or floodlights.

    Hanging the lights higher than the recommended distances will cause the plants to elongate by rapidly growing up to the lights. Unlike sunlight, the intensity of artificial light diminishes dramatically with the distance from the lights. The plants respond by growing toward the light, seeking the higher intensity.

    Under artificial light, some plants may need support during the seedling stage or because of accident. Depending on plant size, use straws, pencils, dowels, or standard plant stakes such as cane sticks. Set them in the soil and affix the stem with string, masking tape, or wire twists such as those that come with plastic trash bags. Do not tie string or wire tightly around the stem; make a loose loop. The stem will grow in girth and can be injured by a tight loop.

    Probably the simplest method of support is to take a rigid piece of wire, form a "C" at one end and bend it to a right angle to the stem. Set the straight end in the soil and place the stem inside the "C." Pipe cleaners are ideal for seedlings. With larger plants, straighten a coat hanger and use the same method.

    A common practice in greenhouses where tree seedlings are raised is to shake each plant once or twice daily. This practice simulates natural vibrations from the wind, and the plant reacts by increasing the growth around the stem. The stem grows thicker and stronger, and the tree can better fend once it is transplanted. It works the same way with marijuana. A fan blowing on the plants will also work. These practices are useful if you plan to move your plants outdoors. Otherwise, healthy indoor plants that will remain indoors need no special stem strengthening.
    you can read more here Gardening Techniques
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