Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable LED

[unforgiven]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

this light might be a good one to put in the new 4x8 tent we need to set up.

as it turns out one tent just isn't enough. lol

you can see in my sig, my various grows, i have a lot going on currently in one 4x8 tent. but i need a second. lighting has not been decided yet. but would be more than happy to put your light on a lightmover for full coverage. and a journal you would get.

including the huge reveg that is completed. ---->>> Unforgiven's 45 Gallon Chunky Cheese Reveg Experiment

sub'd for newsletter as well.

thanks for considering all of us here.

good luck to the winner!!!

 

[unforgiven]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

now thats a sweet grow. and very nice plant under that light.

Grow journal of Luminigrow 450R1
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[TorturedSoul]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

If you're interested in winning this light, please reply our post with your best grow journal here, since we need an professional grower, and please let me know why you need this light, the size of your grow room, etc.

As much as I enjoy learning/testing/"thrashing" new things (especially anything that could be called a gadget)... Ah, just send a PM to member Icemud and ask him if he would be interested in doing a grow with one or more of your products, lol. He has extensive knowledge - and experience - with LED lighting. He is also quite intelligent. You could almost consider him (as I do) the "expert's expert" when it comes to LED grow lighting.

I do not know whether or not he would be interested. But if he would be... You could expect him to get the highest degree of performance out of your product(s) that anyone could the first time that they used it/them. The only reason that he would have poor results with your product(s) would be if it/they was/were... poor products. Assuming that your products are of high quality and performance, he would produce excellent results (which could only help your sales, IMHO).

Also, as I stated, he is very knowledgeable. So much so that, if he chose, he could offer suggestions and observations which would better enable you to improve your products in the future.

If someone wishes to learn about LED technology, specifically in regards to growing cannabis, one could do a lot worse than searching this site (or the Internet in general) for "Icemud" and reading his posts/threads.

Here is his current grow journal:
Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spectrum
...which is full of information for the curious.

Here are some of his completed ones:
Icemud's LED Grow - The Tangie Pheno Hunt
Icemud's Advanced LED XTE Grow - Harlequin - Ogiesel - Black Cherry Cola - Big Pots!
Icemud's LED Overkill - 3x Advanced LED XTE 300s - Blue Dream - University Hills OG
Icemud's LED Grow With Advanced LED XTE 300 Series With EX-Veg 200
...which also contain a wealth of information.

And here is another current grow journal of his:
Icemud's Far Red LED Journal - Flower Trigger Manipulation - Budmaster LED Lights
...this one is interesting because it is all about supplementing with far-red wavelengths in order to manipulate the flowering schedule and to increase photosynthesis via the Emerson Effect. Heady stuff, and far over/above what a novice or even many experienced growers would be investigating/learning/teaching. When it comes to the "school of cannabis..." he is a teacher.

So what are you waiting for, lol? Contact Icemud via PM. (And tell him TorturedSoul said hello .)

 

[Lumini Grow]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

As much as I enjoy learning/testing/"thrashing" new things (especially anything that could be called a gadget)... Ah, just send a PM to member Icemud and ask him if he would be interested in doing a grow with one or more of your products, lol. He has extensive knowledge - and experience - with LED lighting. He is also quite intelligent. You could almost consider him (as I do) the "expert's expert" when it comes to LED grow lighting.

I do not know whether or not he would be interested. But if he would be... You could expect him to get the highest degree of performance out of your product(s) that anyone could the first time that they used it/them. The only reason that he would have poor results with your product(s) would be if it/they was/were... poor products. Assuming that your products are of high quality and performance, he would produce excellent results (which could only help your sales, IMHO).

Also, as I stated, he is very knowledgeable. So much so that, if he chose, he could offer suggestions and observations which would better enable you to improve your products in the future.

If someone wishes to learn about LED technology, specifically in regards to growing cannabis, one could do a lot worse than searching this site (or the Internet in general) for "Icemud" and reading his posts/threads.

Here is his current grow journal:
Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spectrum
...which is full of information for the curious.

Here are some of his completed ones:
Icemud's LED Grow - The Tangie Pheno Hunt
Icemud's Advanced LED XTE Grow - Harlequin - Ogiesel - Black Cherry Cola - Big Pots!
Icemud's LED Overkill - 3x Advanced LED XTE 300s - Blue Dream - University Hills OG
Icemud's LED Grow With Advanced LED XTE 300 Series With EX-Veg 200
...which also contain a wealth of information.

And here is another current grow journal of his:
Icemud's Far Red LED Journal - Flower Trigger Manipulation - Budmaster LED Lights
...this one is interesting because it is all about supplementing with far-red wavelengths in order to manipulate the flowering schedule and to increase photosynthesis via the Emerson Effect. Heady stuff, and far over/above what a novice or even many experienced growers would be investigating/learning/teaching. When it comes to the "school of cannabis..." he is a teacher.

So what are you waiting for, lol? Contact Icemud via PM. (And tell him TorturedSoul said hello .)

Thank you TorturedSoul, I think he might be a qualified grower to review our light

 

[Densenug]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

I' ll Be Back

 

[Densenug]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

Hey Lumini Grow, Have a look at my Grow Journal. I have 2- 30"x 60" Tables and a closet that fits your light perfect, 4 ft. x 4 1/2 ft. I believe I can showcase your light in my closet and show how well LED lights can do. I have pulled a gram per watt, true watts, and I have one going now I believe will be close to 1 1/2 grams per watt. I have been growing for about 3 years now and have my room dialed in. I would love to use one of your lights to see what a quality light can do. I run 9 led lights in flower and 2 in veg. I grow in coco/ perlite and use organic nutes. My signature for my Journal is below and by the way Welcome to . Here are a few photos from my Journal. Thank you Lumini Grow

 

[Lumini Grow]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

Hey Lumini Grow, Have a look at my Grow Journal. I have 2- 30"x 60" Tables and a closet that fits your light perfect, 4 ft. x 4 1/2 ft. I believe I can showcase your light in my closet and show how well LED lights can do. I have pulled a gram per watt, true watts, and I have one going now I believe will be close to 1 1/2 grams per watt. I have been growing for about 3 years now and have my room dialed in. I would love to use one of your lights to see what a quality light can do. I run 9 led lights in flower and 2 in veg. I grow in coco/ perlite and use organic nutes. My signature for my Journal is below and by the way Welcome to . Here are a few photos from my Journal. Thank you Lumini Grow

Thank you for taking part in! That was a nice grow!

 

[Lumini Grow]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

Hey Lumini Grow, Have a look at my Grow Journal. I have 2- 30"x 60" Tables and a closet that fits your light perfect, 4 ft. x 4 1/2 ft. I believe I can showcase your light in my closet and show how well LED lights can do. I have pulled a gram per watt, true watts, and I have one going now I believe will be close to 1 1/2 grams per watt. I have been growing for about 3 years now and have my room dialed in. I would love to use one of your lights to see what a quality light can do. I run 9 led lights in flower and 2 in veg. I grow in coco/ perlite and use organic nutes. My signature for my Journal is below and by the way Welcome to . Here are a few photos from my Journal. Thank you Lumini Grow

Hi Densenug, is your closet 4 ft. x 4 1/2 ft? do u mean 4 ft to 4ft? when will u start your next grow?

 

[Densenug]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

Thank you, I appreciate you giving us a chance to showcase your light.

 

[Densenug]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

In my closet I have width 4 ft., depth 4 ft. 6 in. and 8 ft tall. The plant I have in the closet now , will be finishing in about 3 weeks, the closet will be ready for your light then, LOL. Thank you for replying.

 

[Lumini Grow]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

In my closet I have width 4 ft., depth 4 ft. 6 in. and 8 ft tall. The plant I have in the closet now , will be finishing in about 3 weeks, the closet will be ready for your light then, LOL. Thank you for replying.

I C, thank u! Contatc u soon^_^

 

[unforgiven]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

just got a second tent going, a 5x5 with a fresh batch of autos. would fit good in there.

 

[Lumini Grow]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

just got a second tent going, a 5x5 with a fresh batch of autos. would fit good in there.

Thank you! May I see some pics of your grow?

 

[unforgiven]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

sure ill put a couple in here. my signatures have a whole lot more in my journals.

this was taken tonight in my 4x8 tent with a mars II 1200 watt led on a light mover.

also tonight from my 5x5 tent with a 1k mh run by a nanolux cube.

here's a couple from my last grow, also in my signature.

as i said, my signature holds my 3 journals showing a lot more.

enjoy!!

and have fun eh

Thank you! May I see some pics of your grow?

 

[TorturedSoul]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

 

[Lumini Grow]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

sure ill put a couple in here. my signatures have a whole lot more in my journals.

this was taken tonight in my 4x8 tent with a mars II 1200 watt led on a light mover.

also tonight from my 5x5 tent with a 1k mh run by a nanolux cube.

here's a couple from my last grow, also in my signature.

as i said, my signature holds my 3 journals showing a lot more.

enjoy!!

and have fun eh

 

[Lumini Grow]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

https://www.luminigrow.com/luminigrow450r1/
some grow pics of Luminigrow 450R1 for DinaFem Bubba Kush, harvested in about 2 month, dry weight is 222.96 Gr/7.96Oz

 

[TorturedSoul]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

Luminigrow 450R1 for DinaFem Bubba Kush, harvested in about 2 month, dry weight is 222.96 Gr/7.96Oz

Doesn't that panel consume ~420 watts? That'd be .53 grams per watt. Is Bubba Kush a low-yield strain? Or were conditions not great in the grow (easily possible if it was a novice grower, he/she had no experience with the strain, if he/she is new to LED (grow-)lights in general, et cetera)?

 

[Lumini Grow]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

Doesn't that panel consume ~420 watts? That'd be .53 grams per watt. Is Bubba Kush a low-yield strain? Or were conditions not great in the grow (easily possible if it was a novice grower, he/she had no experience with the strain, if he/she is new to LED (grow-)lights in general, et cetera)?

the grow used old 450R1, power draw is 365~380w, now the upgraded one is 395~400w. so it's about 0.6Gr/watt. the grower seems to have 2 years grow experience. I thought it's not too bad to get this result in 10 weeks. we're looking for grower who can harvest 1.0Gr/watt^_^

 

[TorturedSoul]

Re: Bonus From LuminiGrow 400w LuminiGrow 450R1 Giveaway! Smart Control Programmable

the grow used old 450R1, power draw is 365~380w, now the upgraded one is 395~400w. so it's about 0.6Gr/watt. the grower seems to have 2 years grow experience. I thought it's not too bad to get this result in 10 weeks. we're looking for grower who can harvest 1.0Gr/watt^_^

.6 g/w isn't bad (IMHO) for someone with a couple years of experience with, say, MH/HPS if they're running LED for the first time - the lights serve the same purpose, but their characteristics are different enough that there is a learning curve. If the strain is new to the grower, is known for being a below-average yielder - or both - that could also mean less than stellar yields. Some of the most wonderful sativas I have ever grown were poor yielding strains (but they weren't being grown to sell, so that was fine).

I've achieved a gram per watt or a smidgen over it, off and on, but it depended on everything being optimum (or nearly so) along with decent-yielding strains (or one - having only one strain in the grow room helps, too), either a well-filled scrog or fairly dense sog, and so forth. It generally happened after I had grown the strain(s) enough to be able to both anticipate things and "read" my plants. When temperatures drop just a little bit - both in terms of highs and average throughout the day - I'll be starting my journal back up... and growing under LED for the first time ever. Because of that, and because I'll be growing a couple strains, one of which is ~90% sativa and the other is at least 50% (plus, possibly, an additional strain), I do NOT expect to do very well. I'll be learning the strains (well, relearning one of them, but it has been 15 or more years since I grew it and the breeder has changed its genetics somewhat, so...) and the light. To be honest, I will be happy if I hit .6 g/w, lol. More than anything else, I plan to prove - both to myself and to others - that an old fart (not that old, but...) who has used MH and HPS since they became generally available (before that I used traditional tube-type fluorescents) but who has never used an LED grow light before can use one, and to good effect. I have learned the methods that work best for me, and I realize that these may not be the best for growing under LEDs. So I may try a mix of things. I figure that there are a lot of folks who... who might feel that LEDs are a viable technology, but who worry that the learning curve might be to steep for them, that they may have to drastically change the way they do things, et cetera. I hope to show that this is not the case. When I was younger, I didn't even consider things like that - I just picked up something new and went with it. For the over-40 crowd (a large group), there is a little more effort involved when trying new things. But... not so much that it should not be considered.

I've read about a grower named Heath (Robinson, I think) who has topped 2 g/w numerous times - and who has managed 2.4 g/w at least once. But that is with HPS lighting in a vertical setup, with a custom system that he designed and built himself. It is also with ONE high-production strain that he knows very well. But that is very much an extreme example, lol. And he has "much experience" with atypical grows - six years ago, he posted a thread here with pictures of a "tree" grow that yielded 56 ounces - from one plant! IIRC, it received 900 watts, so that would have been ~1.74 grams per watt. He also posted a picture of another plant that "only" (lol) hit around 1.42 grams per watt... while yielding 76 ounces :lol: .

Unfortunately, it would be very, very difficult (and probably impossible) to replicate the kind of setups that he uses with LED panels, simply because LED panels only produce illumination in one direction, and he uses open bulbs (no reflectors). As to whether or not someone could replicate those kinds of yields under LED... that remains to be seen, but I expect if it IS possible, it will be several to many years in the future. But that isn't a knock against LED grow lights - HPS had been used for decades before someone came along and not only hit the ball clear out of the park (so to speak), they also hit it out of the town that the park was located in . The ability to customize the spectrum with exactly the wavelengths - and ratios of same - will help, along with ongoing research into which wavelengths of light and in what combinations will give the best results; people are still learning how certain wavelengths are use by cannabis (and how those wavelengths affect them - such as far red and the red to far red ratio). Figuring out how to increase the footprint without compromising intensity and penetration will also help.

I have not had the opportunity to try any of your products, and do not expect to... I am too poor to buy them, lol, and I have no past journals to point to as examples of my work (having been generally quite paranoid). But I am certainly willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, that you make decent products. Still... It seems like the best LED growers cannot - yet - approach the accomplishments of the best HID ones. With that being said, however, I do feel that the future of indoor growing (cannabis, especially) is LED. I do not see room for great improvements in HID (MH or HPS) technology at this time. There is only so much one can do to improve their spectrum. Electronic ballasts have arguably been an improvement. CMH looks reasonably promising. Double-ended bulbs appear to provide better performance. But these things - and anything that is likely to come in the near future - are merely evolutionary improvements on the same basic technology. And I would guess that manufacturers know this (and, therefore, the R&D budgets for HID technology are not going to be huge). LED grow light technology, is still young enough that I would not be surprised to see revolutionary improvements in the foreseeable future. Not tomorrow, lol, and most likely not next week. Probably not next month - and maybe not next year. But soon enough that I expect (or at least hope) to still be around to see such improvements. In the meantime, you LED manufacturers will have your evolutionary improvements, too - and those are enough to improve your competitiveness at a time when, for many people, LED grow light panels are already competitive with HIDs (to a greater or lesser degree, depending on various factors).

I think it is a good time for LEDs. Companies such as Cree, Osram, and Philips (just to name a few) are spending LOTS of money on R&D. For consumers... we are (for the most part ) past the "hype" phase of wildly unrealistic claims. Prices, while still high, are often less than they were a few years ago - while performance is much better. As is true with most things, one might worry that the product that one buys this year will be beaten by what is likely to come out next year, or the year after - but at the same time, the products available NOW are good enough to fulfill their purpose. So it is a good time to be a consumer. For manufacturers/sellers... This seems like a good time for you/them, as well. The average indoor grower no longer looks at your products as if they are merely oddities. Quality has improved and continues to do so. This means not only are warranty issues likely to be less of an issue, but companies are less likely to see their reputations get damaged. Sales are up - and can be expected to continue to climb. People are buying products because they are performing reasonably well. But the products are improving at a steady enough rate that it is not only the first-time buyers who are purchasing them, but also the people who bought product last year or the year before, who see a chance to upgrade and have a reasonable expectation of actually getting an upgraded product. Those evolutionary improvements I mentioned will see to that - and, again, there is the chance of a revolutionary improvement that will catapult a company to the top in terms of sales (even more so if the improvement is such that it manages to get that company a lot of publicity). Many municipalities, government agencies, businesses, et cetera are still in the process of upgrading their "old" types of lighting - and CFLs have turned out to leave a lot to be desired. Therefore, those kinds of entities are - and will be - buying a lot of LEDs. And that will fuel a lot of additional R&D. That will benefit everyone from the component manufacturers, to the businesses - such as yourself - who design, assemble, and sell the complete packages... and, of course, the consumers.

The future of LED grow light technology... is looking very bright ( :lol: ) .

I just realized that this post has become a LOT larger than I had originally intended it to be. My apologies. I am looking forward to seeing grow journals which utilize your products. I have been a huge "gadget freak" ever since I was old enough to tie my own shoes, lol... I got my own computer when I was 10 or 11 at a time when most folks had never even seen one - and made friends with a couple of teachers at a school on the other side of town so I could take home their portable computers (which weighed around 45 pounds at the time :rolleyes3 ), et cetera. And, even though I see no way of getting to try your products, myself, I can still enjoy new things vicariously, by observing others do so....