Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Update

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Day 23


Temp: 20,9-25,4°C, 69,6-77,7°F
Humidity: 55-65%

Cream Caramel #1

Size:12,5 cm before Topping and LST, 9,5 cm after it
Bulb Distance: 10 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: Topping, LST
other: none

Cream Caramel #2

Size:13,5 cm before Topping and LST, 9,5 cm after it
Bulb Distance: 10 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: Topping, LST
other: none

Ice Kush #1

Size:10,5 cm before LST, 9,5 cm after it
Bulb Distance: 10 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST
other: none

Ice Kush #2

Size:13,5 cm before Topping and LST, 9,5 cm after it
Bulb Distance: 10 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: Topping, LST
other: none

 

[Van Stank]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Looking great Croc.....even #1 is looking better (though still odd). They are growing fast brother!!

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

They will be bushes soon. I will SCROG them all, after preparing them for that with LST. I ordered an extra 400W DS-HPS yesterday, That will give them an explosion after beeing threated with just 23W CFL power. In case of Lumens, that means an upgrade from 5.600 to 55.000. I can start to seriosly feed them with that Power then. More Light means more Energy, which means that they can burn their nutes faster. In Flower i then switch to 2x250W DS-HPS. That will give me arround 68.000 Lumens

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Day 24


Temp: 21,0-25,8°C, 69,8-78,4°F
Humidity: 55-60%

Before Training

After Training

Cream Caramel #1

Size:13 cm before LST, 9,5 cm after it
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST
other: none

Before LST

After LST

Three new Branches after Topping

Cream Caramel #2

Size:13 cm before LST, 9,5 cm after it
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST
other: none

Before LST

After LST

Topping worked here too

Ice Kush #1

Size:13,5 cm before LST, 9,5 cm after it
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST
other: none

Before LST

After LST

Very good Reaction to Topping here too

Ice Kush #2

Size:13 cm before LST, 9,5 cm after it
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST
other: none

Before LST

After LST

 

[Van Stank]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Hey Croc, that number 1 is starting to look more and more normal. The girls are looking healthy and awesome! Love seeing them grow! Train dem bitches!!

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Maybe Number one is turning out as the best one of all at the end. We will see

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Today i finished my drip to Waste system which allows me to Water my Plants without getting them out of the Closet. This is absolutely necessary for my as i plan to SCROG this grow. Here is how i did it

First, I needed to place a second floor arround 30 cm above the first floor. I cut some wholes in the middle and cleaned it up afterwards.

Then i grabbed some silicone and started to place it along the edges of that second floor.

Then i placed a bucket under the wholes and it was ready. Pretty simple but effective

Day 25


Temp: 19,0-26,2°C, 66,2-79,1°F
Humidity: nailed at 70%

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 10 cm
Bulb Distance: 4,5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none

Cream Caramel #2

Size: 10,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 4 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST
other: none

Before LST

After LST

Ice Kush #1

Size: 12 cm
Bulb Distance: 5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST
other: none

Before LST

After LST

Ice Kush #2

Size: 11 cm
Bulb Distance: 6 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST
other: none

Before LST

After LST

 

[Van Stank]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

LST looking good man!! They are growing fast!

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

I did not have time an update yesterday, it was harvest Day for one of my Dark Devil Autos, and it was a lot of work manicuring those buds. But at least my drynet is pretty full at the moment I did my Notes and a few Pictures yesterday, so i can give an proper update for Day 26


Day 26


Temp: 20,3-25,8°C, 68,5-78,4°F
Humidity: 70% nailed

Overall i did not do much to plants, just pushing bigger leaves under small ones to support smaller branches to grow taller. I moved up the bulbs to a distance of 10 cm each to give the Ladys a little more stretch.

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 11 cm
Bulb Distance: 10 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none

Cream Caramel #2

Size: 11 cm
Bulb Distance: 10 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none

Ice Kush #1

Size: 13 cm
Bulb Distance: 9 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none

Ice Kush #2

Size: 12 cm
Bulb Distance: 10 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Day 27


Temp: 21,0-25,7°C, 69,8-78,3°F
Humidity: 60-70%

They had their first feeding today, all of them developing brighter green new growth. Time to give them their first feeding to provide enough Nitrogen for them.

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 11,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 9,5 cm
Watering: 2000ml
Feeding: 0,63ml/l TNT Complex, 1ml/l PowerZyme, 5ml/l Root Complex, 1 drop SuperVit at 5000ml
Training: none, just sticked bigger leafes under smaller ones
other: 2 new Branches developing Tri-Leafs, new growth healthy

Two new Branches with Tri-leafs

Cream Caramel #2

Size: 11,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 9,5 cm
Watering: 2000ml
Feeding: 0,63ml/l TNT Complex, 1ml/l PowerZyme, 5ml/l Root Complex, 1 drop SuperVit at 5000ml
Training: none, just sticked bigger leafes under smaller ones
other: none

Lower Branches grow up nicely

Ice Kush #1

Size: 14 cm
Bulb Distance: 8 cm
Watering: 2000ml
Feeding: 0,63ml/l TNT Complex, 1ml/l PowerZyme, 5ml/l Root Complex, 1 drop SuperVit at 5000ml
Training: none, just sticked bigger leafes under smaller ones
other: very fast grow rate compared to the other, Candidate to take clones of if this continues

Very good rate of lower Branch grow here too

Lower Branches starting to build new Branches by themselfs now

Ice Kush #2

Size: 12,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 9,5 cm
Watering: 2000ml
Feeding: 0,63ml/l TNT Complex, 1ml/l PowerZyme, 5ml/l Root Complex, 1 drop SuperVit at 5000ml
Training: none, just sticked bigger leafes under smaller ones
other: none

very similar to Cream Caramel #2

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Day 28


Temp: 19.5-23.6°C, 67,1-74,5°F
Humidity: 65-70%


They handled their first Feeding very well, all showing signs of more growth. The high Humidity is causing dripping wet leafs, i have to take care of that. I put another fan to the box which hopefully solves the Problem. I had to defoliate three leafs of Ice Kush #1, it was just just too much of them.

Before todays workover

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 12 cm
Bulb Distance: 20,5 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: leafs looking darker now, good reaction to feeding

New growth looks amazing, Tri-Leafs are more visible now

Cream Caramel #2

Size: 12,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 20 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST
other: Leafs looking darker now, good reaction to feeding too. Increased growth

Before LST

After LST

In Detail

Ice Kush #1

Size: 15 cm
Bulb Distance: 20 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST, Defoliate
other: Leafs looking a little darker now, good reaction to feeding. Needs more feeding then the other Ladys. Very fast growth, I´m scared. 3 leafs cut off to defoliate

Before LST

After LST

In Detail

Ice Kush #2

Size: 13 cm
Bulb Distance: 22 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST
other: Leafs looking darker now, good reaction to feeding too. Increased growth

Before LST

After LST

In Detail

After todays workover

 

[Van Stank]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Wow, that new growth is really kicking it in high gear! looking good brother!

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Yeah, I´m very very surprised about how well a 23W CFL performs if you keep an eye on your Bulb distances. But today they will move to their new home, it is already well prepared for them. This will upgrade Light performance by 1200%. I´m looking forward to their reaction to these amount of Light

I tested this setup, equipped with 2x 250W S-HPS Bulbs. Temps at plants Tops are about 26°C (78,8°F) stable at a distance arround 30 cm (11,8 inches). Before, with only one 250W S-HPS, it was arround 27° with a bulb distance of arround 40 cm (15,7 inches). Tested it with these two Ladys here, a Dark Devil green Phenotype and a Auto Blue Dream.

 

[Van Stank]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Nice setup Croc! How big is that grow area?

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Nice setup Croc! How big is that grow area?

My Setup is 57x96 cm (24,4x37,8")
Not that big at all for 2x 250W DS-HPS I guess



Day 29


Temp: 21,2-23,4°C, 70,2-74,1°F
Humidity: 50-55%


The Ladys got in their new home today, i think they will be happy here. Setup hast changed, no more 23W CFL´s for each, 500W HPS with two Air-Cooled Bulbs from now on. To keep it Gentle in the first Time under these new Conditions, only 1 Bulb was ignited today, with the second one following up in 2-3 Days. They were about 6 Hours under the new Light at the Moment were I took these Pics for you Guys The Screen was also installed today, along with the yellow screens. I found a single Fungus Gnat coming out of Cream Caramel #1 direction. That could possible explain the Trouble in the Beginning with her. If they are sitting in her Soil. I bought Neemoil today, just in case.

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 12,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: Ignore the white little Pints on her Leaves, it is Dust because i had to use a Saw

Cream Caramel #2

Size: 13,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: first handful of Roots coming out of the Pots side-holes

Ice Kush #1

Size: 16 cm
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none

Ice Kush #2

Size: 13,5 cm
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: none
other: none

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Day 30 early


Temp: 20,6-23,9°C, 69,1-75,0°F
Humidity: 50-55%

They adopted nice to the new Light conditions while i was sleeping. The Pics were taken instantly after their 6 hours of Darkness today. What else is to say? Cream Caramel #1 is a candidate to worry about once again. Found some Fungus Gnats again today, just 2 of them, but thats 100% more then yesterday I bought Neemoil yesterday, and my decision is to foliar spray them all with that. I will do that tomorrow, i need to buy a high quality device for that first. I will spray them all because i don´t want these little Fuckers to spread out even more.

After they woke up this morning

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 13 cm before LST, 12 cm after it
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST
other: Much slower growth then the others, leaves not looking too good, petiols purpling on upper Leaves, Fungus Gnats (2) in her Soil

Before LST

After LST

New Growth looking slightly odd

Petiols turn Purple on upper Leaves

Cream Caramel #2

Size: 15 cm before LST, 12 cm after it
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST
other: overall healthy, adopting good to new Light, good low branch growth

Before LST

After LST

Good top growth

Ice Kush #1

Size: 18 cm before LST, 15 cm after it
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: 2000 ml
Feeding: 1,25 ml/l TNT Complex, 2,5 ml/l Root Complex, 1 drop SuperVit at 5000 ml
Training: LST
other: Fastest growth of all, very healthy appeal, proud of her

Before LST

Strong side Branches, perfect for LST

After LST

Her Top Nodes

Ice Kush #2

Size: 15,5 cm before LST, 14 cm after LST
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: LST
other: healthy appeal, adopting good to new Light, good grow rate

Before LST

After LST

Top Nodes

After today´s work, Ice Kush #1 and Ice Kush #2 have changed places. Another update will follow later today.

 

[Van Stank]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Hey Croc, just curious....how tall can your plants get before you have issues with your light height?

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Hey Croc, just curious....how tall can your plants get before you have issues with your light height?

I measured a few Minutes ago. With booth Bulbs on i need about 30 cm (11,8") to have a nice temp about 26°C at the Tops. Scrog net is mounted about 47,5 cm (18,7") above ground. The Pots are arround 22 cm tall. My Closet is about 180 cm tall.

So i have about 100 cm (39,4") of room to grow vertically above my Scrog net, and a total maximum height of 125 cm (49,2")

 

[Simon de Montefort]

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[Van Stank]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

I measured a few Minutes ago. With booth Bulbs on i need about 30 cm (11,8") to have a nice temp about 26°C at the Tops. Scrog net is mounted about 47,5 cm (18,7") above ground. The Pots are arround 22 cm tall. My Closet is about 180 cm tall.

So i have about 100 cm (39,4") of room to grow vertically above my Scrog net, and a total maximum height of 125 cm (49,2")

Ok, so you have more room than it looks like in there!! Nice. Looks good and those ICE KUSH are really growing nicely! I might have to give that strain a try.