Chris you’ve said your problem was heat and humidity, then you said dryness, now you’re saying cold. You’ve had multiple well known and well versed growers tell you overwatering. When you have an overwatering Issue it looks like very many other issues all at once because it symptomatically is multiple issues. Too much water creates multiples knock on effects that you cannot fix until your watering is fixed. A basic understanding of plant and root growth will tell you this.
You’re in hard sided pots which as @Bill284 stated means you’re going to go a long time in between waterings.. If you read @Emilya Green post on how to water a potted plant you’ll see that in some instances, it can take WEEKS before the medium is dry enough again for watering. In a pot that size, with your temp and humidity fluctuations there’s no doubt in my mind it’s staying wet in between your Waterings. 5-6 days in a pot that size not in flower is far too much water. It’s very hard to say anything definitively about other grows but I can definitively say you’re overwatering by the information and pictures you’ve provided us.
Your plants are showing every single sign of overwatering from papery swollen leaves to droop no matter what. This is being exacerbated by your temperatures.. Your plants cannot consume the volumes of water you’re giving them in the time frames you’re giving them for multiple reasons.. they’re too cold to heat up enough to work their hardest. Your forced heat and humidity problem is causing layers of your pot to dry out making you believe it’s ready when it’s not. If lifting a pot is too difficult I highly suggest a water meter or switching to a SIP.
I can also tell you that when lifting the pot it should be almost as light as it was before you even put the medium in there.. Plants don’t weigh that much when they’re the size you have them so the pots should be extremely light when they’re ready.
If you’re still in doubt about whether or not it’s overwatered look at this picture:
This is exactly what your plants look like and this is an overwatered plant. I know that because it was mine and it did the same thing you’re describing until I learned how to properly cycle the plant between wet and dry. Unless you’re growing a TLO/LOS style you’ve got dialed in perfectly, you’re going to want to wet dry cycle.. Even then, people like @StoneOtter who run LOS styles still do wet dry cycles.
This is overwatering.. You may have other issues but it will be almost impossible to tell until you fix the overwatering. I’ll give just a bit of info on that, plants control their rhizosphere.. they can control the PH of their root zone to take in the nutrients they need.. Oxygen is one of those nutrients. When your medium is waterlogged in the rhizosphere plants cannot effectively change the PH to take the nutrients in, not only that, they have no access to oxygen. Couple this with the fact that you’re growing a plant that aggressively chases down minor amounts of water, but you’re giving it constant access to overwhelming amounts, and you’ve got a big lazy plant that cannot breathe or eat.
Normally I’d be a little more reserved in my wording but you’ve had some of the best growers in this place tell you what your issue is and you seem to be fighting them on it for some reason. I know you don’t want to believe it’s overwatering.. I didn’t want to either, until I bought a water meter and sat next to my plant with this thread:
You’re in hard sided pots which as @Bill284 stated means you’re going to go a long time in between waterings.. If you read @Emilya Green post on how to water a potted plant you’ll see that in some instances, it can take WEEKS before the medium is dry enough again for watering. In a pot that size, with your temp and humidity fluctuations there’s no doubt in my mind it’s staying wet in between your Waterings. 5-6 days in a pot that size not in flower is far too much water. It’s very hard to say anything definitively about other grows but I can definitively say you’re overwatering by the information and pictures you’ve provided us.
Your plants are showing every single sign of overwatering from papery swollen leaves to droop no matter what. This is being exacerbated by your temperatures.. Your plants cannot consume the volumes of water you’re giving them in the time frames you’re giving them for multiple reasons.. they’re too cold to heat up enough to work their hardest. Your forced heat and humidity problem is causing layers of your pot to dry out making you believe it’s ready when it’s not. If lifting a pot is too difficult I highly suggest a water meter or switching to a SIP.
I can also tell you that when lifting the pot it should be almost as light as it was before you even put the medium in there.. Plants don’t weigh that much when they’re the size you have them so the pots should be extremely light when they’re ready.
If you’re still in doubt about whether or not it’s overwatered look at this picture:
This is exactly what your plants look like and this is an overwatered plant. I know that because it was mine and it did the same thing you’re describing until I learned how to properly cycle the plant between wet and dry. Unless you’re growing a TLO/LOS style you’ve got dialed in perfectly, you’re going to want to wet dry cycle.. Even then, people like @StoneOtter who run LOS styles still do wet dry cycles.
This is overwatering.. You may have other issues but it will be almost impossible to tell until you fix the overwatering. I’ll give just a bit of info on that, plants control their rhizosphere.. they can control the PH of their root zone to take in the nutrients they need.. Oxygen is one of those nutrients. When your medium is waterlogged in the rhizosphere plants cannot effectively change the PH to take the nutrients in, not only that, they have no access to oxygen. Couple this with the fact that you’re growing a plant that aggressively chases down minor amounts of water, but you’re giving it constant access to overwhelming amounts, and you’ve got a big lazy plant that cannot breathe or eat.
Normally I’d be a little more reserved in my wording but you’ve had some of the best growers in this place tell you what your issue is and you seem to be fighting them on it for some reason. I know you don’t want to believe it’s overwatering.. I didn’t want to either, until I bought a water meter and sat next to my plant with this thread:
The Proper Way To Water A Potted Plant
The Proper Way to Water a Potted Plant Also covered: the importance of pH and why we successively up-pot How to Water Over the last several years I have put a lot of study into this, and I feel that I can now define the proper way to water a potted plant. Keep in mind that this discussion...
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