Growing autos: what are the main differences?

[Bud Love]

Let me fire up the laptop and I'll paste the guide in. It's heavily dependant on Mega Crop and Superthrive.

Thanks dood
Hope the worlds treating you well
Gonna be trying all that out, if I’m honest.. I’d be as happy as a pig in poop, just getting half those yields ..
Peace and love man
Bud

 

[Dabeast09]

Thanks a lot all of you
I have a lot to learn.
This is a great start.
Don't let me be the closer of this conv, if anyone else wants to add that would be great.
Thanks again wonderful community

 

[YoCeE]

I’ve always heard superthrive is def not a go to when it comes to flowering plants. In fact; anything meant for veg or vitamin B whatever is def not the go to. It can hinder flowering while still making your plants look great

 

[Bud Love]

Thanks a lot all of you
I have a lot to learn.
This is a great start.
Don't let me be the closer of this conv, if anyone else wants to add that would be great.
Thanks again wonderful community

Hey man sorry for jumping in on your thing.. got a bit exited about those big ass autos.
peace an love

 

[Dabeast09]

Hey man sorry for jumping in on your thing.. got a bit exited about those big ass autos.
peace an love

Whatyou mean bro, jump in at any time

 

[Smoke em]

Here's the method I use, the main things I use are FFHF, 7 gallon fabric pots, Mega Crop, Superthrive, PH down and Cal/mag.

This is for Autoflowers

These are the things I use religiously, I can't advise on substitutions, I do these things for every auto and they work every time across 40 or so crops.

Take all the Bro Science you've heard and discard it (except don't up pot that's legit, as soon as it's a seedling put it in the final pot you'll harvest from. Once again F* the bro science, use a 7 Gallon pot, the roots will fill an entire 7 gallon so using a smaller pot will get you less yield.

Lights (for a 3x3x6' tent) it's not optimal but I ended up with a ton of Mars Hydro Lights (Ts600 100w wall draw lights)

One 250w (I'm using Budget LED and harvests increased tremendously) Samsung LEDs with a meanwell Driver, I add one Mars Hydro to the Budget LED for a total of 350w per tent (I run 3 tents for simultaneous harvest, perpetual harvest you need 3 different nute mixes so I don't do that often) So one 250w Samsung LED and one 100W Mars Hydro.

Topping: I don't care about people who say topping will not increase a yield, topping when combined with LST will give you huge Colas (like 16 or more 1 ounce colas dry). Huge colas make me happy so I top at the 6th node. They get a little wild like mine at 6th node so you need a 6 foot tent.

LST: WHEN TOPPED AT THE 6th NODE, I start LST when they reach 6th node and I top the plant, I use pipe cleaners they run like $11 for 300 on amazon.

Pop a hole in your fabric pot directly in front of the limb and gently tie it down level to the dirt, you'll need to re tie the limbs down at like week 6 use your own judgement.

You are training your auto to accept nutrition hence the next section. Forget the soil bag saying it has enough nutrition for 6 weeks that's a lie.

As soon as your auto's go into the dirt use 2 grams Mega Crop Per Gallon. When you've used one gallon of Mega Crop on a plant the next gallon go to 3 Grams, 3rd gallon 4 Grams, 4th gallon 5 grams and hold at 5 grams until they start to flower. When Flowering (even pre flower) give 6 grams MC. When decently flowering give an additional 1 gram of Mega Crop bloom booster. Watch for the tips of the leaf if they burn back off the nutes a hair, I've never had one plant nute burn with this schedule, BUT if you go above 6 - 6.5gm of MC in the end you'll have lockouts.

Seedling feed 4 ounces of MC water (2gm/Gal) in a circle around the plant, check in the evening to see if it needs a small drink. As it grows a little up it to 6 ounces, then 8 ounces, jump to 16 from there. The idea is let it dry out but not wilt. When grown I give 1 gallon a day unless the pot is saturated then I skip a day.

I honestly don't care about all the "bro science" you read, I water 1 gallon daily after a month and generally harvest from 12-16 dry zips a plant. Mega Crop nutes really help here because you feed daily.

The secret sauce for huge autos once you reach 5 and 6 Grams MC/gallon. You'll have lights at between 12 and 18 inches from flowering plants so we start Cal/Mag.

THIS IS FOR PLANTS 5-6 weeks old in flower.

6 Gram Mega Crop
1 Gram MC Bloom Booster (when in flower)
PH up or down to 6.3 to 6.5 ph
4 drops Superthrive (Prevents deficiencies)
2-3 milliliter Cal Mag protects against strong light exposur

No Apoc it's not that simple, yes it is it works every time.

Grab a $20 Lux meter:
10-15k Lux seedling with lights 24 inches from the plants. If they start to stretch use common sense.
35-45k veg
55-65k flower

65k is top end and watch for light burn, I wouldn't go above 60k without adding cal/mag and even then I'd watch for light burn. If your light is adjustable turn it down a hair from maximum to extend longevity, you can lower the light a little to compensate.

Elevate your pots cold floors are not good for your roots.

When they are growing good and getting big trim 6 fan leaves a week, if they are really hairy you can take 2 or three more but no more than 9 a week. This will keep them in veg a week longer. Once the pre-flower stop trimming unless a leaf obscures a bud then trim it.

But Apoc leaves are the powerhouse powering the plant you shouldn't trim them at all, My last two auto's gave 15 and 16 zips dry. I seldom get less than 12 zips even from a small yield plant so trim those 6 a week once a week, if it's to hairy trim another 3 like 3 days later.

It's counter intuitive but once your root ball is big give them a gallon a day of 6gm MC with your favorite bloom booster, if you get runoff watering slow they have enough and you can stop short of a gallon. Generally i give the gallon and if i get runoff i use a wet dry shop vac.

Everyone says it's not that simple but it really is. Everyone says every grow if different but I do the same thing for every auto and they all yield big and fire to smoke. You have to use a little common sense and look for bugs and deficiencies. I've never had a deficiency or had nute burn using that regiment but it could happen.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the post. Growing my first crop now. I’m at day 37....here are some photos. Any advice? How do things look overall?

 

[Oldhippie59]

Differences, they flower without changing the light schedule. I keep them on 19 hours light 5 dark.

When sprouted put them into the pot you'll harvest from don't transplant. I use 7 gal fabric pots and the root ball completely fills the bag. Don't go small pot in a 3 gallon bag your yield drops dramatically.

As soon as they go into the dirt start feeding 1/4 stregnth nutes (grab some Mega Crop it rocks). Don't wait, feed immediately reguardless of the soils claims to feed to contain enough nutes for weeks. You are training them to take nutes.

I top them at 6th node, then LST with pipe cleaners. Don't listen to the bro science, 6th node they get wildly large. Topping at the 7th or 8th they get unmanageable.

I'm pulling 14-16 zips per plant under 350-400 watts led. Here's some auto flower porn.

If you get questions feel free to ask, someone will answer. If you want my full grow guide I can post tomorrow when I'm on my laptop.

This one is 3 foot tall and is now filling a 3x3 tent completely. I predict 17 or more ounces minimum.

This one ran 14 zips mostly big colas.

This one i pulled 16 zips but lost 1/2 ounce to bud rot.

What a great looking plant! I am on my second auto grow and still using a few 3 gal pots but experimenting with a 10 and 7 gal pot this time around , it’s an amazing plant that’s for sure.

 

[Smoke em]

Differences, they flower without changing the light schedule. I keep them on 19 hours light 5 dark.

When sprouted put them into the pot you'll harvest from don't transplant. I use 7 gal fabric pots and the root ball completely fills the bag. Don't go small pot in a 3 gallon bag your yield drops dramatically.

As soon as they go into the dirt start feeding 1/4 stregnth nutes (grab some Mega Crop it rocks). Don't wait, feed immediately reguardless of the soils claims to feed to contain enough nutes for weeks. You are training them to take nutes.

I top them at 6th node, then LST with pipe cleaners. Don't listen to the bro science, 6th node they get wildly large. Topping at the 7th or 8th they get unmanageable.

I'm pulling 14-16 zips per plant under 350-400 watts led. Here's some auto flower porn.

If you get questions feel free to ask, someone will answer. If you want my full grow guide I can post tomorrow when I'm on my laptop.

This one is 3 foot tall and is now filling a 3x3 tent completely. I predict 17 or more ounces minimum.

This one ran 14 zips mostly big colas.

This one i pulled 16 zips but lost 1/2 ounce to bud rot.

What day do you top at? I’d be around day 30 for 6-7 nodes. Is that too late for autos? Also, do you trim lower growth? Do you defoliate? Sorry, did the beginner questions!

 

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Differences, they flower without changing the light schedule. I keep them on 19 hours light 5 dark.

When sprouted put them into the pot you'll harvest from don't transplant. I use 7 gal fabric pots and the root ball completely fills the bag. Don't go small pot in a 3 gallon bag your yield drops dramatically.

As soon as they go into the dirt start feeding 1/4 stregnth nutes (grab some Mega Crop it rocks). Don't wait, feed immediately reguardless of the soils claims to feed to contain enough nutes for weeks. You are training them to take nutes.

I top them at 6th node, then LST with pipe cleaners. Don't listen to the bro science, 6th node they get wildly large. Topping at the 7th or 8th they get unmanageable.

I'm pulling 14-16 zips per plant under 350-400 watts led. Here's some auto flower porn.

If you get questions feel free to ask, someone will answer. If you want my full grow guide I can post tomorrow when I'm on my laptop.

This one is 3 foot tall and is now filling a 3x3 tent completely. I predict 17 or more ounces minimum.

This one ran 14 zips mostly big colas.

This one i pulled 16 zips but lost 1/2 ounce to bud rot.

Best advice! Thank you

 

[BirdieNumNum]