My Very First Grow! DWC - Stealth Grow Box - 4 Strains

Greenthumb J

Well-Known Member
Hey Everyone, and :welcome: to my very first Grow/Grow journal.

I am growing 4 strains currently. 6 Malawi gold (Malberry Seeds, non-fem), 4 White Rhino, 3 White Widow and 1 Great White Shark, the last 3 all being Greenhouse seeds, feminized. 14 Plants total.

My growing setup is as follows:

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- BC Northern Lights "Producer" model w/ 2 400 HPS. 18 site hydro tub. 35 litre water res. Automated watering/light schedule. automated co2 injection level maintained @ 1600ppm
- Veg upgrade. includes 1 125w CFL and 2 400w MH and propagtion dome.
- T5 lighting upgrade. 2-4ft T5 lights to provide lighting to underside of plants.
- "Silver" package of nutrients. Future Harvests brand Grow(1-2-5), Common(2-0-0), Flower(0-4-4), Bud Boom(0-6-5), Carbo Blast(0-1-0) and Super B+(0-2-1). got some rooting gel also
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Also using Aquashield in my water res currently.
- Can-Filters Can250 carbon filter
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- co2 regulator


Growing Medium: Rockwool
Using tap water. I have very clean drinking water here in the lower mainland of British Columbia, and I especially have a great local source even in my suburban city. pretty low chlorine

Okay lets get to some grow details. YES.. none of this was cheaps..:confused: I did some research (not enough i feel) and talked to some people and given my current location (11th floor in a 27 floor highrise) I feel i got kind of swindled, but at the same time not really, into buying what I did. Hey, theres always a silver lining right? this is a quality built machine, Professionally wired by journeymen electricians, reasonable airflow to the growing chamber. guaranteed odourless, the machine has internal ballasts for the lights and each light chamber is individually cooled separate from the other and separate from the growing chamber. I also have to say its designed by some really cool guys. I have some seen some pretty sweet DIY setups that are pretty good, however, I feel i'm going to benefit having all the components put together by professionals of their specific trade, Sheet metal fabricators, electricians, plumbers etc, and especially since i dont feel that i possess the skills to create a piece of work like this machine (although i am very ambitious, i'm sure i could if i really tried and had a lot of time and money to be able to take on such a project) Plus, it just plugs into my wall and its good to grow!

However.. I have some cons as to the design. Mainly just the hydrotub.. so far this is my only issue i have had and i have scrapped it. It is just too F*CKIN big and inconvenient to change the res. Say you have 18 mature plants, after you flip a switch to override the water pump, the pump only removes about 98% of the water out into a Rubbermaid mixing tub with a hose they give you with the machine. Then somehow you have to prop up the lid and remove the res tub which is about 4ft wide by about 2 1/4ft wide approx. One person by themselves with no aids i dont feel can accomplish this task. You cant even prop the lid open cause the 18 site lid sits on the tub.. you have to remove all the plants somehow and then remove the airstones in the res then the water pump and then take the fuckin thing out. Just to clean it properly before putting in fresh water. This is my only issue with this machine. The inconvenience of weekly res changes.

So, I scrapped the hydro tub.. After i deemed it caused root rot in my early seedlings because of the inability to give it a proper cleaning after each res change and i felt it was just to difficult to change the water. This was also after i had a damping issue with my expensive feminized seeds i bought. (20 white widows @ $250CAD 10 Rhinos @ $125CAD and 10 GWS @ $125.. the seed company slightly messed up the order so i got a freebie of 12 malawi gold (reg) from Malberry seeds. These saved my first attempt i feel cause of the damping off of my widows and most of my Rhinos. 3 widows survived in the end. i had 6 WW when i first used the hydrotub, thanks to root rot, when i transplanted them to their current DWC homes there were only 3. I have 4 Rhinos about 7 days apart. my GWS is super runtish and the same age as the oldest Rhino. I still have 9 beans of GWS sitting on my bookshelf for next go round i'm thinking.)
Yes, i scrapped the tub. It sits on my patio catching sun rays in the spring here in BC. Contemplating doing strawberries and basil and herbs as i'm a chef as per my day(nights actually) Job. And since i have literally turned green(says my girlfriend) from profound interest in horticulture and especially the cultivation of fine quality cannabis. And as someone who HAILS from British Columbia, I smoke some top quality marijuana and am now on an endeavor to cultivate my own masterpieces!
Shit, off topic! I went to walmart and purchased 3, 38 litre (sorry for being a Canadian, eh!) Rubbermaid totes in a dark blue colour. and drilled 8 - 3.5" holes (as my net pots are apparently 3 5/8" cause the pots dont slide all the way in, they fit very snug tho) in 2 of the 3 lids. I chose this number as i have 14 plants that have survived and 8 holes works better in the lids than 7. I could actually get 12 holes per lid, but that will be for another grow!
My Producer has a built in airpump (I will email the company tomorrow or very soon and get all the exact specifics for those who are hungry for those numbers.) that has two main lines that each attaches to a T splitter and powers 4 - 12" airstones. So i am utilizing those in my DWC containers by having 2 airstones per tub. when i put more tubs in there i will arrange the airstones accordingly. Right now there is a ton of air being pumped into each res. My plants have finally adjusted to their new homes and are finally taking off.. i feel i should be much farther in the process, perhaps getting closer to a flowering cycle, but the terrible conditions they had before as well as the recovery process from those conditions and the transplant to new homes, I'm sure thats whats attributed to my delayed grow. But i'm on my first go round, I'm not going to assume anything. and my plants are looking healthy now and i'm feeling Much Much Better!!:Namaste:

So here i am making this journal on a fantastic website for some collective knowledge.

lets get everyone caught up:

My White Widows are currently 45 days from seed.
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I appear to have two distinct phenotypes. One grows very symmetrical and uniform. The other two grow like crazy bushes. One of the two has developed 4 different tops, while the other has its main stem growing on a diagonal with 2 maybe 3 very strong side branches that are now growing like they are main stems. The 4 topped plant is developing a very sweet almost skunky aroma. The others have a smell that slightly resemble vine ripened tomatoes(slightly) and like trident mint gum.

the Malawi Gold,
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which according to my research about these seeds are a 100% landrace sativa from the Malawi region of Africa, are (according to written log) 38 days from seed and really starting to stretch. Pretty sure 5 of the 6 are starting to show preflowers with a good 3 or 4 determined to be female preflowers (thanks internets!) 1 in particular suffered a severe case of root rot and was literally on the verge of dying and being thrown into the garbage, but i seen the quick improvement the Aquashield did to the less affected plants i figured i would let it ride and see it the runt rebounded, and sure enough, new, white roots blasted from the old ones and now she(i think shes got female preflowers coming in, have to get a magnifying glass) is on the up and up and is going to catch up to the others. ALSO.. one of them has a fucked up leaf (will post picture) only one part of the fan leaf is affected.. it hasn't gotten any worse today
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This is a picture of the one that nearly died.. Thank you AquaShield for saving this baby. Hopefully she repays my effort and turns out female. i think preflowers are starting to come in despite extremely stunted growth. I'll do a before and after photo as i think i have both.

Before Aquashield:
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in this picture, its in the left tub, on the left row, second from the top.. this was about 9 days ago i think?
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Just looking awful.. actually, they all were.

After Aquashield:
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she actually looks much better than this photo gives off.. I duno if i have a shot of her roots exploding new growth? i'll check
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looks like i did after all.. the ones in the middle with new ones blasting out.
Heres a couple inside growth shots from a couple days ago.. i did a light Defol to remove some big fan leaves and open up bid sites to light and they have just bushed out like crazy.
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If you look closely, you will see a calyx and pistil. this is why i actually took these photos.. They aren't the best quality, but i think they are very very good for a fuckin smartphone.. iphone cameras are garbage and i actually have the first few pics of my grow box on my broken iphone.. alas i will get them soon enough. these are with my samsung galaxy nexus. i will continue to use this for photos as my digital camera i have i think takes worse photos than these, albeit i havent really tried yet.


White Rhino #1 and GWS are both 31 days from seed and the Rhino is just exploding with growth.
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Theres my runt of a GWS.. i was concerned untill i saw the new leaf growth starting the other day when i changed the res and added a highed N solution.
-And heres the Rhinos.. The largest is the Oldest. the GWS has a little tag in it so that i know which is which. the rest of them i know. they are on the right side tub, on the left row, the bottom 3 plants with GWS being the top plant in the row.. i have a runt Rhino as well at the top right hand side. Increased N levels have seems to fix this and new growth is starting to develop much faster.
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second picture is a little height shot of the plants. the right side of the tub is the widows.

The oldest Rhino is on its 4th set of branches.. maybe only 3 but getting to be big quickly. Shes getting a little bit more nutes than the bottles/BC northern lights feeding schedule suggest to give, but she is loving it. so are the younger plants and no signs of nute burns or over feeding.. maybe the runts dont like the high nute levels.. i'm thinking it was just the transplanting stage when i made the new DWC tubs. Also this last wednesday on res change i upped nutes even more to boost the N the babies were getting and all the Rhinos are taking to it nicely The GWS however has been very slow in fact i almost scrapped it, but taking a look into the res i see a good root system forming. I think she just didn't like the inital transport from hydro tub to DWC, but also getting into a cleaner environment i think has kicked her into growth as i see some leaves starting to blast out.

White Rhino #2,3 & 4 are 26 days from seed and they are quickly catching up to their older sister. and i mean quickly. you seen the last pictures right? Thinking i'm going to buy some more of these seeds but from a different seed bank. One here in BC rather than these shady ontario fucks (although i purchased essentially a Greenhouse Seeds Co. product, who are highly respected breeders) who loophole you into not being able to get a refund on bad seeds that didnt germ. I lost some to not germing as well as the rest to damping off. spent $540 total including bank draft. The company i plan to use for my next seed purchase (Girl Scout Cookies [fem], Socal master kush [reg] and Lavender [fem}) is called BC bud depot. they got Albino Rhino which they say is the same as White Rhino. Pics of it looks killer and if they grow like these ones do (i plan to clone these beautiful ladies i might add) i wouldn't mind having the two different sources of the same strain to compare the genetics. and their prices seem to be a little bit better.. Contemplating getting some Chocolope but 6 feminized seeds are $140 CAD.

So i'm just waiting for some photos to upload and then i will add some at the appropriate places (if i can) in the beginning of this Journal. (I managed to get them in the right places!!!) :high-five:

Also, just a few days ago, my Girlfriend came home from the hydro store (on my request of course) and returned with a MagniWing fixed socket light shade all wired up, a 600w Gavita dimmable digiatal ballast, a new PH and TDS pen :goodjob:(although the tds pen says CD600 on it and my ph pen says PH600. i'm hoping the hydro guys gave my GF the right meter. But its all good.. they threw in a $30 yo yo system for my magniwing for free.. she forgot to get hydroton rocks for my cloning goals, but that can come next check. i dont have calibrating solution for it so i'm not sure if any readings with it will be accurate but it does read measurements of PPM so i'm guessing i got the right one... I do have 7.0 buffer solution for my ph pen, and it was bang on calibrated. So maybe the TDS pen is too. They are made by the same company (Milwaukee) She also brought home 36 2" net pots for my cloning set up i plan to build. and i think that it all she got. Tried to get a hygrometer as well but they were sold out. Pretty sure the humidity in my grow box was way too low since they came out of the propagation dome this entire time.. I have supplemented with a tupperware container with water in it (read this on the forums here) .. its evaporating at a good rate and the plants seem to really love it.

Heres my new gear that i bought.
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heres also a decent look at what the hydro tub looks like if you haven't researched this machine already. Dont mind my lazy dog using it as a pillow!!
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My plan is to convert one of my 2 closets in my master bedroom for a Mother Plant/A cloning/Vegatative area as i would strictly like to use my Producer with its carbon filter for flowering and constantly be pumping it full of clones. My original plan was to make a huge DWC tub that sits in my bathtub in my Ensuite bathroom (i have a separate shower, and the tub never gets used) that would hold 3-5 mother plants with a wooden structure rested on top the the bathtub and sitting flush with the wall, a light/yo-yo system and some good fans for airflow.. However, the GF doesn't want the apartment to be taken over by my crazy addiction to want to grow cannabis, so i opted to make the mother area in her larger closet!! haha compromises right?! Also, my Rubbermaid DWC tote plan is to make 3 new lids for the tubs with 12 sites per lid and do a 36 plant sea of green.. i do have 4 airstones, so i'm thinkin of somehow putting a 4th container, perhaps a smaller Rubbermaid tote, like 12-25 litres or something that holds 4-8 plants to do a lush SOG with 40+ plants in a small confined space.. Also wanna build a screen for the Malawi Golds as i have read they can turn into a jungle quickly! Really thinking about Topping or FIM'img them.. but probably will just LST them to keep them from hitting the glass that contains the lights in their chamber.

Its 5:30am currently and the lights are about to go on at 6. I am just mixing up a little top feeding solution. This week its very custom as i havent really read much about the nutes I am using, but apparently the Super B+ i should have used from germination (says Future Harvest Webpage) but i'm gona see what adding some does to the top feed this week. I'm mixing into a 1L ratio. the bottle doesn't say really for the time i have been growing the oldest plants for, the bottle says i should be flowering. but these babies aren't ready i can tell. so, (see nutrient list above) i'm going to give them a decent dose of Common< cause its got nitrogen for the young babies, the regular amount of Grow according to the week 2 which is actually week 4( it goes week A,B,1,2 on the bottle) and a dose of Aquashield (which i haven't done before on waterings but its got to do some good on the upper root ball that could be susceptible to rot or other issue and its done nothing but wonders for me so far) and I am going to add in some of this Super B+ in a 1/3 dose, just to see how they take the change. I have been giving light waterings as the rockwool starts to lose its dampness. it isn't near dry, theres some moisture, but this time between fluctuates now as i have noticed that the tupperware container i put in the grow box has kept the rockwool nice and moist and clearly the humidity is up too. Im only giving them a feeding cause i feel they could use some of this Super B+ stuff.. and its been a few days since they have gotten some watering and they looked a little droopy last night as the lights were turning off. So hopefully a nice early feeding before they soak up some light for 18 hours today will make them burst open today and stretch for the sky!! I will also be going to see if i can get me a hygrometer, and a thermometer for my water res's that i can monitor without having to take manual readings.. AND i want it cheaps!! As well i am buying eye screws ( you know the screws with eyelets on them) and some plant friendly twine to begin my LST on the plants. My tallest Malawi is probably 7" this morning.. the tallest widow is right behind it. BC Northern lights suggests when the plant is 8" tall to start flowering as you dont want the plant to grow into the light housing and get burned/heat stressed, however, thats based on their hydro tub which is about 7 inches from the bottom of the grow box to the top of the rockwool cube (approximately!!!) and my DWC setup is approximately 9 inches from top of rockwool cube to the bottom of the grow box.. so about a 2" height difference. i'm thinking of actually moving my plants closer to the light housing so that they get better light penetration and dont stretch too much, however i know when i flip to HPS and a 12/12 schedule, they are going to stretch like mad!!

6:30am update: I have been up all night doing this damn Journal, but holy hell has it been fulfilling. I am about to give my babies a morning feeding.. I mixed up my nute solution which was 2ml of grow for my 1L amount, 5ml of common, 1.5ml of aquashield and .75ml of Super B+. mixed it good and hit water with the Ph pen and it read 5.5 on the dot.. my TDS pen is taped together for easy readin and it read 168, seems like its calibrated just right. going to go water them and get a couple pictures to post here.. be right back!!

Okay.. babies look good this morning. nice and perky. Will show you all some pics of their current state. I think they look absolutely gorgeous.

Tub #1 - 6 Malawi Gold and 1 White Widow (row with 3 plants, its the farthest right)
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Tub #2 - 2 White Widows, 4 White Rhinos and 1 GWS (labeled in photo)
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The other couple photos i took.. one i think you can see a calyx and pistil. As well as some strange yellowing on the newer growth on only ONE the 4 tops on my WW there in the first picture.. Anyone know what that could be?
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And there you have it :420: You are all caught up to my current grow.. Stay tuned as i plan to start LST'ing and maybe topping my sativas and cloning soon. As well i will start building my cloning machine, mother plant DWC's as well as new lids for my DWC tubs for increased plant count, and the contruction of my mother plant grow area in my closet!!

I look forward to loads of useful information, as this is my ultimate goal. I'm a sponge thirsty for your collective knowledge!

Thank you all who took the time to read this.. it took me about 8 hours to finally complete just this part!.. Now the real fun begins! (and some sleep after a nice bong rip of my favourite Blue Kush)

P.L.U.R - Peace, Love, Unity and Respect

Greenthumb J
 
Re: My very first grow! DWC, Stealth grow box. 4 strains.

Hey Everyone. An update. So i want to ask anyone reading this if they can identify the issue in the next two pictures.

The first shows the most affected area:
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This image shows a secondary affected area:
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Hopefully some input as to how i am doing will come shortly from someone who knows more than I do (which sure isn't a hell of a lot!)

Thanks everyone
-Greenthumb J
 
Re: My very first grow! DWC, Stealth grow box. 4 strains.

after some quick google searching of mag deficiency, it looks similar. Lots of the pictures i have seen that have affected leaves dont appear to be dying, just losing the chlorophyll within the leaf. however, i did have fluctuating PH levels for a bit, seemed to have gotten it under control in the last 2 weeks. Roots arent an issue it seems with this plant in particular.
 
It could have just been ph bouncing. Seemed weird that in only did it to one half of the leaves. Glad it's not a spreading problem that's for sure.
 
Re: My very first grow! DWC, Stealth grow box. 4 strains.

Yea.. if you read earlier in my grow, i had some serious root issues with my original hydro setup. I changed it all up, quickly applied Aquashield to my water res and the plants all turned around.. even the one with the most affected root mass. they're all looking good except one that i will update very shortly.

Thanks for the bit of info, I appreciate any criticism and knowledge shared with me.

Yes, thankfully no other plants seem to be showing similar symptoms!
 
Re: My very first grow! DWC, Stealth grow box. 4 strains.

Okay everyone. I have another update.

Bought some eye screws to screw into different places in my Rubbermaid DWC lids to start some LST training, as well as some soft twine to tie the stems down. Everything was going just so well.. Tied down the two largest Malawi Ladies and they took to the adjustment nicely, then the next two, and they took nicely to their new growing position. And as i was on my last one, would you guess what i did? just overdid it on the bending while i was tying up the stem to the eye screw.. and SNAP! poor little baby snapped almost clean off. I Had no duct tape on hand.. just Gorilla tape, which is duct tape on steroids, so i quickly tried to make a patch to save this top. As i was leaning it back to get the tape around, i felt it disconnect. I had a good feeling it was only sitting there because of the tape brace, so i took it off quickly, untied the string and lopped off the 2 side branches and snipped off half the lower leaf tips. I also sliced off a thin slice which was the broken part where top broke off and split the stem in a X formation, coated it in the rooting gel i was given with my BCNL Producer and popped it into some PH balanced soaked and drained 1" rockwool cube. I then placed the clone tray back into the grow box, rearranged my plants onto boxes to get them closer to the MH lights and put the broken top which i'm hoping will rebound and sprout some root, into the propagation dome with a cup of water in there to get the humidity up.. The lights were about to go off in about an hour as i finished all this.

I'm really hoping that the top survives. That would be cool.. sort of unintentional cloning as well as unintentional topping. Here's a couple pics of the damage my clumsy ass made:

Heres the remaining half of the plant. lets hope this stress doesn't turn it male, or Hermie. as i think it was starting to show its female preflowers. i will have to look when lights are on in the morning.
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Heres my attempt at recovering the top i snapped off:
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And heres the rest of the ladies that i tied down this evening:
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Heres an overview of whats happening so far in there as well as a shot of my new (and i guess kinda cheap, but working!) Hygrometer sitting beside the Widows and Rhinos.

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I hope to have some intelligent minds shed some knowledge upon me.

What are my chances that the top will survive my method of emergency life saving procedures?
How does my first go at LST look?
Anyone else got an idea what that strange yellowing could be in my previous update? possible magnesium def?

I got a feeling these plants are going to need to veg out a little bit longer. They were pretty stunted at a young age compared to my White Rhinos that i started like 20 days later than my White Widows. The Rhinos are really starting to bush up fast, except for one.

According to my written log i have, the Malawi gold are now 38 days from seed. I am not counting the first 7 days of the plants life as this is when its popping from the rockwool and growing its cotyledons. After 7 days, i deem its most likely going to make it and i start counting the plants age from this time forward. So, that being said, the Malawis have been in veg for 31 days. and the White Widows for 38 days. the first White Rhino and Great White Shark have been in veg for 24 days while the 3 other Rhinos have been vegging for 19 days.

I am doing lots of reading about the Malawi Gold because of its pure sativa lineage, the height i think its going to get out of control. I have read over a few other people who have grown in these BCNL grow boxes (no one used the producer model from what i could find) and few years back being the most recent i could find, and lots of people seem to have had issues with plants growing into the glass that encloses the light housing. No one however reported that any of the buds were affected, however in a few pictures i could see that temperatures when using the HPS light were an issue and some leaves were showing heat stress and some were burned... I have relatively cool summers here where i live, however i now live in a highrise that faces south all day an let me tell you, it gets hot in my living room, let alone my solarium/den/spare room that the grow box is located. So thats why i decided to try LST'n the sativas to keep them down and away from the lights for the most part.. I also plan to introduce a cheap made screen that fits over the DWC tub to let the MG fill up and grow a small compact bush. At least thats my goal.

My worry is everything i have read about MG suggests that i should have let them veg like a week or two then flipped them over to flower. They have been in veg for over 5 weeks now! they havent stretched very much in the beginning i think to shitty condition in their first home, but now they are really starting to take off. most of the 6 i have are showing female preflowers, meaning sexual maturity has been reached and they're ready to flower. At least from what i have read on here and every other forum, this is what that means. The runt thats beside the snapped one, is still playing catch up to her sisters and i think are about to show some preflowers. the other that i cant quite distinguish has some preflowers growing.. they look ballish near the bottom and taper off near the top.. almost like a calyx that is starting to stretch rather than a ballsack that is starting to take over the node.

My White widows have shown no preflowers yet but they are really starting to bush out and i feel they could probably go into flowering in 3 weeks or less.. I dont really want to let the Malawi veg out that long.. almost 2 whole months. Thats pretty crazy from everything i am reading about them. No one i have seen has attempted this plant indoors, so i'm hoping that the fact the roots cant grow like 300ft into the earth like i'm sure they do in Africa, that these babies are going to stay on the shorter side. And not just cause i'm tying them down now. So i'm thinking that maximum 3 weeks is the day i flip.. Anyone have thoughts on that and my progress so far?

I'm gona end the update at this. Please if anyone has some two cents to share, or want to follow along with my progress.. i :welcome: everyone!!

Thanks everyone, hope to hear from some super intelligent minds out there and as always, have a great evening! :thanks:
 
Re: My very first grow! DWC, Stealth grow box. 4 strains.

Update for today:

The Malawi Gold ladies that i bent over last night are starting to stretch back towards the light and the Widows are really bushing out nicely.

I'm starting to think that maybe i should have made DWC lids that hold less plants per container as these babies are going to get really thick once i switch the lights to HPS and over to the flower cycle and light exposure to the lower branches is going to be tough with a thick canopy of leaves.

Also i'm thinking about making lids that hold 12 plants per container and doing a 36+ plant SOG of bushy plants. Still trying to find a way to utilize my T5 lights that i have and am currently not using. was thinking of mounting them onto the DWC lids between the plants, but i'm pretty sure they will grow into the lights and burn some of the leaves closest to the bulbs.

My final though before i head off for work for the evening is: Flowering. I have a dilemma i am in. I am going to Las Vegas on monday June 16 for a whopping 7 days and i am unsure as to when i am going to put these babies into their flowering cycle. I am in deep with the grow box and i'm hoping that the product can help get me back to even with the help of some close friends who need better medication (like myself) than what they are able to find. I'm thinking Wednesday is the day i flip.. the Widows and Rhinos take 8-9 weeks according to the breeder, so by the time i get back, i figure i flush them and they will be ready about 10ish days from the monday i return from vegas..
The Malawi Golds however can take up to 16 weeks in flower!!! so i figure i should have flipped them already, but with their slower growth early on due to poor conditions and the transplant to new containers, i think now is the time to flip them. They are showing female preflowers too, so i'm happy about that.

Any thoughts would be apprciated and i welcome all to follow along if they so choose.

Happy Sunday to All! :Namaste:

Greenthumb J
 
Re: My very first grow! DWC, Stealth grow box. 4 strains.

Hi Greenthumb great grow you got going sorry about your issues with the hydrotub but your babies have bounced back. I would suggest moving that WW over to the next site so that it is not competing too much with the MG next to it but other than that and the minor nute burn looks great, nice LTSing as well
 
Re: My very first grow! DWC, Stealth grow box. 4 strains.

Thanks SolKing... i have actually since abandoned this journal and moved onto a new journal of the same grow, just a little more detailed

why dont you stop in and check on my progress? i'm about to start flowering on wednesday! The link is in my Sig

thanks!
 
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