Spider mites or aphids?

[Dragoond2]

soil got a new bag of fox farm coco loco and now this is all over. Are they spider mites or aphids and how can I get rid of them i have 3 seedling and 3 in flower in the same tent. @MrSauga

 

[bobrown14]

Not spider mites they live on plants. Aphids are the same. Hard to see what they are without a scope.

 

[Dragoond2]

Enhance, enhance, enhanced lol

 

[BeanTownFan420]

I think those are beneficial soil mites.

 

[bobrown14]

Wait while I go get my bug repellent.

OK ummm yeah I know that there are bugs in my soil. As long as they get along with my plants I'm good and dont go looking for them unless I have to.

TO ME - they look like first stage of Thrips but that's my wild guess.

Yes they are a pest and a problem for cannabis. Can use spinosad to get rid of them. You dont want to let them grow to adult stage you will have a problem.

Here's a pic of the stages - they sorta look like the small first stage to me from the pic

 

[mrking]

Can’t you just spray em with a mix of iso and water?

 

[Dragoond2]

One looks like this can get pic too fast.

 

[Dragoond2]

Other slow ones better pics

 

[Bush Doctor 77]

Are they on the undersides of your plant leaves?

 

[Dragoond2]

So far just on the soil and container.

 

[Bush Doctor 77]

So far just on the soil and container.

Weird. If they were detrimental to plants, I'd expect to see them on the plants. They may eat the roots. Wonder if BT would impact them(mosquito dunk power). Neem should take care of the exposed ones.

 

[Dragoond2]

I have a bottle of neem sitting around just incase.

 

[bobrown14]

yeah I put neen cake meal in my soil mix

 

[SmokingWings]

Last year I read up on Fox Farm putting a predatory mite called Hypoaspis Miles into their soil mixes. It is deliberately put into the soil before it is packaged up as a way to control Fungus Gnats.

If it is Hypoaspis Miles then trying to kill them off is destroying a beneficial mite which means the grower will then have to do more work to get rid of Fungus Gnats.

There is a thread somewhere on this site about the consequences of killing off one bug just because the grower does not like the way it looks only to find out that they end up with 2 or more problem bugs moving in since their enemy predator is gone.

 

[Dragoond2]

Fox Farm putting a predatory mite called Hypoaspis Miles into their soil mixes.

From the faq from fox farm

 

[SmokingWings]

..... i have 3 seedling and 3 in flower in the same tent. @MrSauga

I find this more interesting than the bug issue. How does it work out if you have 3 plants under a flowering light schedule with 3 seedlings in the same then which need a longer light schedule to get them to grow up to a proper size.

Seems to me that you might have the seedlings start to flower while they are very small.

 

[Dragoond2]

Oh sorry the 3 flowering are autos

 

[SmokingWings]

From the faq from fox farm

All I am doing is saying that the research I did last year brought up that there was the possibility that Fox Farms was adding these beneficial insects. @BeanTownFan420 got me remembering the Hypoaspis Miles bug discussions.

Oh sorry the 3 flowering are autos

OK, got it. I keep forgetting about the Auto-Flowering plants.

 

[johnnystackz]

I normally let my soil sit in a container for a week and brew up a batch of soil (HF or OF fox farm). In anycase In my opinion I recommend getting a container for your soil and giving it a day or two in the container prior to unloading or using

 

[Dragoond2]

Oh ya I think some of them are predators but they are few and the ones that look like spider mites there are many many more.