Reporting for Beginners Organic Grow Class

[StickMan15]

Thanks for starting this thread Brother!

Hope you don't mind if I join your class brother!

I am a new grower, and started growing with Organic Soil myself. So much to learn, but we have some great Organic growers on this site to help us out.

Did my first OD grow last year, and can't wait to get back out there. That will be a while though, as we just got more snow. Looking at 3 months yet, until I can plant outdoors, so I'm looking forward to watching your grow my friend.

 

[Smelly Joe]

please join man

Stickman, the only thing I do mind is if weed and knowledge aint shared. So please join , you are more than welcome.

This is my 1st proper outdoor grow and I am hooked man. I will always love the Indoor and I will start it up this winter which starts in about 2 1/2 months and then I will start up my 1st proper Indoor grow. I have done many grows but all of them micro grows and after receiving a cab with balast and lights (MH and HPS) I am finally a big boy. LoL

So please feel welcome to share. I am by no means a guru or pro. I am just a noob that decided to try Organics and then it just consumed me. I am a follower of some real good growers here and on other forums. And the best thing about Organics is that I don't have to stress myself silly about over feeding or any of those chemical problems. I dampled in Coco and Chem grow few months back and it was an utter fuck up. Outdoor and coco does NOT go well together. My grow medium core was so hot that it actually burnt me. Needless to say, the plant was tossed but damn , coco grows really well. One day I'll try it again with early season force flower or Indoor.

Love and Light

 

[Smelly Joe]

Some young bud porn to start the story

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[Smelly Joe]

Don't know hy the pic don't want to work. Sorry about that. Here, let's try again ...

 

[G-daddy]

High ya Smelly Joe your young lady's gook nice !
I have a question, I am preparing my soil and have it sitting in a 7 gal pot, should I be doing something else to " cook " it? Like adding some tea or just plain water? In my current my soil was not up to par and my plants have suffered, want to give them a better start next time

 

[ProperGreen]

A Simple Compost Tea Will Help Things Along, But...

High ya Smelly Joe your young lady's gook nice !
I have a question, I am preparing my soil and have it sitting in a 7 gal pot, should I be doing something else to " cook " it? Like adding some tea or just plain water? In my current my soil was not up to par and my plants have suffered, want to give them a better start next time

Hey brother,

I'm not Smelly obviously, but thought I'd chime in.

A simple compost tea with some compost and molasses would be a good idea to "jump start" your cooking process so to speak, but it's not something that must be done! I didn't do it this run, but I've done it in the past.
I've also known a lot of great organic cannabis growers to start their cooking process with a compost tea, and then only use maybe one of two more compost teas during the entire growing season!
I don't know these gentlemen personally, but they are guys around various forums that I've followed and learned from!

& Blessings

Ps, another word for "cooking" the soil for organic newbies is cycling the soil. Just thought I'd add that for anyone that might see this thread and think that cooking has anything to do with applying heat or anything like that!
All "cooking" is, is letting the soil sit before using it, so that the microbes within can immobilize and mineralize the nutrients within the soil, thereby making the amendments we add to the soil into plant available nutrients, and subsequently releasing these nutrients in the soil ecosystem.
The amendments that we add are nothing more than food for the microbes in the soil!

 

[Smelly Joe]

High ya Smelly Joe your young lady's gook nice

Ahoya Brother. Thanx for the nice words.

And about your Question, I couldn't have said it any better. To be honest I would have probably said about half of it. ProperGreen is a talented man and he's advice is always worth the read.

I'm not Smelly obviously, but thought I'd chime in.

Always welcome PG.

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[Conradino23]

Well, at least I don't have a problem with "cooking" the soil as it stays in the garden 12 months a year

 

[Smelly Joe]

Ahoya

I would love to grow in mother earth, but the time aint right yet. But hopefully soon I'll be trying it out.

Till then, I'll grow in my pots and talking about pots, here's Querkell doing her thing. Tomorrow I'm adding some guano to the soil , but in small amounts. I got myself some Volcanic Rock Dust today to water into the soil in hopes to get more active lide in there. Sound like a good idea ???

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[Smelly Joe]

Ahoya

So I thought I'd share my un-planned garden grow. These are beans I got from a local rasta but the weed itself is SHIT. All Organically grown but the quality is just NO NO.

But I thought what the heck, let it grow and here it is. The buds look very differant to what I'm used to. Almost makes me think hermie, but I inspect her well on a daily basis and if I see any balls, its off to the worm bin.

And the other reason is that its just a nice looking plant.

STRAIN: Tarrie

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[Smelly Joe]

Ahoya

Here is some update pics of the Querkell. I defoliated a bit to get rid of all the ugly and damaged leafs. I know some people warn against defoliation but I do it and I have always seen good results.

I haven't started with molasses feeding and will start soon. I just haven't had time to get some yet.

CLOSE UP

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[Smelly Joe]

Ahoya

I still suck pretty bad when it comes to determining what problem the plant/s are having and to be honest I am getting tired of NOT KNOWING. My problem is that I doubt myself to fast. I will find the problem and be sure that this is the problem, but then I see something else on the web/book which plants a seed of doubt and that the new pic kinda shows it better and before long I have about 5 differant problems and cofused as hell.

So I thought it would be better to cut the problematic leaf of this one and previous leafs and stick them in a b ook and then I can referance back to that. Yes there are books that does the same but as doubt allows I don't see "my problems" in the books.

Weird, huh??? No not really, its just me all paranoid, confused and overwhelmed all in 1 nutshell.

So here is a pic of the problem leaf

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[Smelly Joe]

Querkell Update

Things are getting fatter these past few weeks. I would love to have her grow a bit more fatter. But for now she's doing real good. Her smells is off the chart and I am a very happy grower. I'm really looking forward to harvest time so that I can have meds again for my Chronic Back Pains. I will be making some Canna Caps with the Querkell. Its a new area for me so really excited.

I have now moved over to Seabird Guano for feeding and I have added a Marina 200 airpump to my water to bubble out all the nasties. Our tap water ph is 7.4 and I was quite surprised. I purchased a Aqaurium PH test kit with ph up and down. Would it be advisable to water my plants with a PH of 6.3 to get a rootball PH of 6.8 ???

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[Smelly Joe]

Ahoya

So things has been a bit hectic at work and I haven't been to active on the forum, and I do apologize for that.

Querkell leafs is turning yellow at a fast rate now and the buds look good and full of crystals. Very little crystal formation on the bud leafs, so a close trim is the order of the day. I have done a sample harvest and I am very impressed with it. So this coming weekend is harvest day. I have already started flushing the medium.

Photos will come VERY soon. Just waiting till the weekend. Also, the gf upgraded her phone and that 13mp camera is gonna come in real handy. LoL.

So till later


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[Smelly Joe]

Re: Close but not yet

Ahoya.

So I harvested "tester" buds to see (and feel) the effects of the Querkell. Well. I have to say, its quite a nice daytime puff. You can feel your stoned but still able to function like a normal person. I thought that bu the time I took the testers the plant should be at a milky stage, but eager as I am the crystals were more clear than milky. So I'm leaving the rest of the plant as is and letting her do the rest of her thing. My pc is still in for repairs so showing off the girl is a bit of a problem.

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[uptheholler]

Hey Smelly I thought that i would just add my 2 cents worth on the Humus question. Think of humus in any soil as material in the final stages of decomposition. So as you compost plant matter down and bacterial and microbial action have broken down most of the plant matter what you ultimately end up with is digested organic matter. Humus is essentially the final stage of that material during composting. While it is still a recognizable commoditity. In your mix that you are using Peat is often not in a very high state of decomposition. As it decomposes microbes involved in the process will fix (tie up) the available nitrogen in your mix. Remember plants primarily get their nitrogen from absorbing Inorganic nitrogen from the soil. Inorganic here has nothing to do with the misnamed organic cultural technique. It simple means nitrogen in combination with carbon on an elemental level. So if your plants suffer some during the vegetative cycle I would considr the percentage of un miled peat in your mix.

 

[Smelly Joe]

Thanx for the info

Ahoya

Uptheholler, thank you for that added info. I really do appreciate it and read it carefully.

I am busy with an garden experiment to make my own humus with leaves and grass and stuff. We are in Autumn now so leafs are in an abundance. I found a really decent organic Canadian Spaghnum Peat Moss supplier and will be using that soon as well. But getting Humus in these parts seems to be a losing battle. But luckily the mix I am doing next time says that I can use Humus OR Compost if Humus can't be sourced. Luckily I live in the Winelands and Organic Nurseries is almost everywhere, but I found that some people take you for a ride when it comes to Organic Compost. So sifting out the bad ones takes a bit of time. Until recently I used a trusted Organic Compost only to find out that they add bad stuff to their soils to break it down quicker. And all my plants are showing signs of it. Well, that and improper soil mixing that created ph pockets.

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