Stem splitting?
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This is my mother plant which I completely broke the stem in half and it split, I could see right through the stem, taped it up for a week and then removed the tape. She grew back 10x stronger
Then topped her and she grew some huge arms!
Going to clone her and then put her into flower once my current grow is finished, I have a feeling she will yield large.
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Then topped her and she grew some huge arms!
Going to clone her and then put her into flower once my current grow is finished, I have a feeling she will yield large.
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Just like humans cannabis will heal when they do it creates a bigger stem (vein) for nutes to go thru. It's called knocked up. I cracked my main stem at the branching spot last harvest. It healed and created a huge knuckle. And that harvest was amazing. This time I will try the stem splitting thing but only on one plant out of my 15This is my mother plant which I completely broke the stem in half and it split, I could see right through the stem, taped it up for a week and then removed the tape. She grew back 10x stronger
Then topped her and she grew some huge arms!
Going to clone her and then put her into flower once my current grow is finished, I have a feeling she will yield large.
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bignugz420
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Knuckle not knocked
kushnoj27
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Yah I mean it's pretty much the same thing as supercropping but just more severe. I love super cropping my plants, nice big knuckles form causing more nutes to flow and also helps keep the branches stable without needing for staking/netting too
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By the time I'm done training, supercropping, accidentally breaking stems, and otherwise torturing my plants - their stems are well scarred and knuckled up as well. Not sure that it makes any difference to yield - but it does strengthen stems where they need it.
By the time I harvest a plant, it's done growing. It's leaves are yellow and dying down like a tree in the fall. Buds are ripe and gooey. It's not drinking water, it's not growing. It's drawing what's left of the energy from its leaves. It's ripening a little. Most of its functions are shut down.
So if I go damaging the stem at this point '3-7 days before harvest'- how is that going to cause a '20% increase in thc'. Where is this thc supposed to come from?
Thc is created in the flowers by photosynthesis and my plant has had on average three months or more of healthy flowering time in which to do this. Now it's winding down and most of its foliage is finished and the rest is definitely compromised in its ability to function.
Jamming a stick through its stem doesn't seem like it's going to work any miracles. Not saying it's not possible- but it would be nice to hear some evidence, or some better science than 'splitting the stem causes stress and forces the plant to produce more trichomes'. Hmmmm.
If stress is what makes trichomes- my plants must be absolutely covered in them. Not only my plants- myself as well. I would be in severe danger of being attacked by stoners and smoked. What a stressful thought
The dark period has been cited as maybe helping boost the terpenes. Meaning that the plant might have increased smell and flavour.
Another theory is that, since light degrades thc (apparently true), then you'll harvest the plant at a time of maximum thc. Apparently the plant plays a constant game of catch up as thc is produced, but degraded by the lights at the same time. Seems that no one has ever done any lab tests on this - or if they have they haven't shown any difference, because people are constantly raising the subject and nobody is ever sticking their head up to confirm that there is a measurable difference when plants are put in darkness before harvest.
Terpenes and thc, etc can be lab tested now. Especially if you're one of those blessed and lucky people who live near 'civilization'. Would probably be fairly cheap compared to all the time spent wondering about this stuff, and writing about it, and doing weird stuff to our plants in the hopes it might improve them. And whoever put the time in to test this stuff would get the glory of breaking new ground in the cannabis field.
By the time I harvest a plant, it's done growing. It's leaves are yellow and dying down like a tree in the fall. Buds are ripe and gooey. It's not drinking water, it's not growing. It's drawing what's left of the energy from its leaves. It's ripening a little. Most of its functions are shut down.
So if I go damaging the stem at this point '3-7 days before harvest'- how is that going to cause a '20% increase in thc'. Where is this thc supposed to come from?
Thc is created in the flowers by photosynthesis and my plant has had on average three months or more of healthy flowering time in which to do this. Now it's winding down and most of its foliage is finished and the rest is definitely compromised in its ability to function.
Jamming a stick through its stem doesn't seem like it's going to work any miracles. Not saying it's not possible- but it would be nice to hear some evidence, or some better science than 'splitting the stem causes stress and forces the plant to produce more trichomes'. Hmmmm.
If stress is what makes trichomes- my plants must be absolutely covered in them. Not only my plants- myself as well. I would be in severe danger of being attacked by stoners and smoked. What a stressful thought
The dark period has been cited as maybe helping boost the terpenes. Meaning that the plant might have increased smell and flavour.
Another theory is that, since light degrades thc (apparently true), then you'll harvest the plant at a time of maximum thc. Apparently the plant plays a constant game of catch up as thc is produced, but degraded by the lights at the same time. Seems that no one has ever done any lab tests on this - or if they have they haven't shown any difference, because people are constantly raising the subject and nobody is ever sticking their head up to confirm that there is a measurable difference when plants are put in darkness before harvest.
Terpenes and thc, etc can be lab tested now. Especially if you're one of those blessed and lucky people who live near 'civilization'. Would probably be fairly cheap compared to all the time spent wondering about this stuff, and writing about it, and doing weird stuff to our plants in the hopes it might improve them. And whoever put the time in to test this stuff would get the glory of breaking new ground in the cannabis field.
kushnoj27
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By the time I'm done training, supercropping, accidentally breaking stems, and otherwise torturing my plants - their stems are well scarred and knuckled up as well. Not sure that it makes any difference to yield - but it does strengthen stems where they need it.
By the time I harvest a plant, it's done growing. It's leaves are yellow and dying down like a tree in the fall. Buds are ripe and gooey. It's not drinking water, it's not growing. It's drawing what's left of the energy from its leaves. It's ripening a little. Most of its functions are shut down.
So if I go damaging the stem at this point '3-7 days before harvest'- how is that going to cause a '20% increase in thc'. Where is this thc supposed to come from?
Thc is created in the flowers by photosynthesis and my plant has had on average three months or more of healthy flowering time in which to do this. Now it's winding down and most of its foliage is finished and the rest is definitely compromised in its ability to function.
Jamming a stick through its stem doesn't seem like it's going to work any miracles. Not saying it's not possible- but it would be nice to hear some evidence, or some better science than 'splitting the stem causes stress and forces the plant to produce more trichomes'. Hmmmm.
The dark period has been cited as maybe helping boost the terpenes. Meaning that the plant might have increased smell and flavour.
Another theory is that, since light degrades thc (apparently true), then you'll harvest the plant at a time of maximum thc. Apparently the plant plays a constant game of catch up as thc is produced, but degraded by the lights at the same time. Seems that no one has ever done any lab tests on this - or if they have they haven't shown any difference, because people are constantly raising the subject and nobody is ever sticking their head up to confirm that there is a measurable difference when plants are put in darkness before harvest.
Damn what kind of strain are you growing that has a 90+ day flowering period?
I believe if you were to split the stem, it should be done early in its veg life, definitely not in flower.
Light definitely degrades THC, this is a true statement. That's why when you are curing buds in jars you want them to be kept In a dark closet.
I would much rather just bring down the humidity to 10-20% RH during the last week of flowering - this will increase terpenes/THC level without a doubt.
I've done a dark period before harvesting and have also harvest without a dark period - did not see any noticeable differences.
However, I do always chop them down right before the lights turn back on as this way it enables you to harvest the plants before the nutrients get sucked back up the plant and into your buds. Makes for a cleaner smoke for sure
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The dude from the original post said the secret was to do the stem splitting in the last few days. Splitting stems in veg happens a lot, by accident.
I'm growing a few sativas and some take up to 120 days flowering time, but most of my mixed strains I usually flower for 90- 100 days to get them to where I like them.
Sunlight/uv pretty much degrades everything. So it wouldn't be any sort of stretch to assume that it degrades THC as well. It also is the main necessary ingredient needed for a plant to produce THC. Somewhere in between these two factors are a few things waiting to be explored I think. If I had a portable cannabis testing device I'd do a lot of tests on the thc levels under various conditions.
I tend to be distrustful of 'facts' that get repeated over and over with no verification. Air bubbles in clone cuttings, spilled water droplets burning leaves, periods of darkness before flowering/before harvest, the need to dry harvested plants in darkness, the 'fact' that curing stops and will 'never restart' if you overdry your harvest, etc etc.
With access to a good lab ('good' meaning cheap/free
) to test cannabinoids and terpenes we could really refine the harvesting and curing process.
I'm growing a few sativas and some take up to 120 days flowering time, but most of my mixed strains I usually flower for 90- 100 days to get them to where I like them.
Sunlight/uv pretty much degrades everything. So it wouldn't be any sort of stretch to assume that it degrades THC as well. It also is the main necessary ingredient needed for a plant to produce THC. Somewhere in between these two factors are a few things waiting to be explored I think. If I had a portable cannabis testing device I'd do a lot of tests on the thc levels under various conditions.
I tend to be distrustful of 'facts' that get repeated over and over with no verification. Air bubbles in clone cuttings, spilled water droplets burning leaves, periods of darkness before flowering/before harvest, the need to dry harvested plants in darkness, the 'fact' that curing stops and will 'never restart' if you overdry your harvest, etc etc.
With access to a good lab ('good' meaning cheap/free
) to test cannabinoids and terpenes we could really refine the harvesting and curing process.
JimmyJames905
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Tried it once. Made the weed stronger than the plant that didn't get split. But I think I did it too early because the buds stopped growing.
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Love this plant and what it is capable of, so resilient
cannanewb
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There is no stem just above the soil?
I've heard of this but it was for different reason then as posted in that article. Supposedly it helps the plant dry out an finish quicker so you don't have to wait as long for your buds to cure it'll just consume it's self of all remaining water an nutrients so from what I remember your not post to do it till you've flushed your plants,but now I'm more curious of trying it never cared much of new things to make them cure faster as I've found if ya rush perfection you'll screw up.
