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[John Whorfin]

Greetings Deep Water Culture!
Just a short update, maybe pics to follow back in the future.
Temps have been moderate to high, short periods in the mid 80's with the lights out in the box,usually mid 70's, no biggie, for most they would
consider my high's moderate 77-83 with lights on, water temps 75-77, not great, I'm working on idea's to kool it down a little.

The peat & coco cups have had no negative issues, I made some covers to suppress algae on the surface, P/H has been very easy to deal with, constant & stable usually 5.8-6.2'ish, I'm using R/O H2o with a ppm of 10, with 5ml/pg of calmag it settles at 290ish and then with 10ml/pg of Botanicare the PPM's settle out at 800-880, so if I figure this correctly my PPM's of concern are around 500-580, am I correct?
That would seem to be where I need to be aprox at 5 weeks, opinions?
I'm in the aprox. 5th week in bubbles from moderately rooted clones started in R.W. & transplanted into peat, very slow growing clones, lost a few, theres is now 1-707,2-greencrack, 3-Hindu's, all seeming to be doing the same progress, I'll let these girls run there course & flower, I just germ'ed & planted 6 beans into bubbles, 1st time dealing with seeds, followed R.M.'s tutorial around pg.5 pretty much to the letter.
One thing I'm not sure is when to turn the lights on, there in bubbles & R/W so I just left the 68w CFL on so theres light when they poke through
to much, to soon ?
Regards,
John Whorfin

Hey Deep Water Culture, I thought I'd introduce myself, I've been growing for about 2 1/2 years in soil, Rosemans tutorial conviced me to make the swap over to hydro.
I just finished building & fired up my 1st Deep Water Culture unit this week, more or less an expierament, I put 3-707 Headbands in 6" net pots, they started off in peat so I put them into coco cups for liners in the net pots, these are 3 rooted clones that I won't cry over if I loose them, I just wanted something to learn the system with to start off.
I'm using Milwaukee constant P/H & TDS meters, P/H is riding at 5.9 & TDS around 600, I'm using Botanicare Veg, thats what I was using before I started going more organic in soil, I'm familar with the line and there sitting on the shelve, I'm also using R/O water amending it with 5ml/pg of CalMag and superthrive in veg.
Vegging under 252w of LED, after 3 days 1 of the girls are looking very good and the other 2 I think one will go south & the other is on the cusp right now, no biggie like I said I chose these 3 because like Rambo there expendible if I become the "Canna-nator".
Any nute's advise for future grows I'm open to or any advise at all, I think my biggest issue this week is keeping the temps down, I'm not thrilled the rez temp reads mid 70's.
I had red tinted water the day after so I did a practice water change to try & clear the water, something I was not looking forward to, no muss no fuss, simple, messing with the addional water has been the biggest issue why I've put off going hydro, much to do about nothing.
Can't wait to get rid of most of my soil, except for mothers.
Regards,
John Whorfin

 

[Guido]

Greetings Deep Water Culture!
Just a short update, maybe pics to follow back in the future.
Temps have been moderate to high, short periods in the mid 80's with the lights out in the box,usually mid 70's, no biggie, for most they would
consider my high's moderate 77-83 with lights on, water temps 75-77, not great, I'm working on idea's to kool it down a little.

The peat & coco cups have had no negative issues, I made some covers to suppress algae on the surface, P/H has been very easy to deal with, constant & stable usually 5.8-6.2'ish, I'm using R/O H2o with a ppm of 10, with 5ml/pg of calmag it settles at 290ish and then with 10ml/pg of Botanicare the PPM's settle out at 800-880, so if I figure this correctly my PPM's of concern are around 500-580, am I correct?
That would seem to be where I need to be aprox at 5 weeks, opinions?
I'm in the aprox. 5th week in bubbles from moderately rooted clones started in R.W. & transplanted into peat, very slow growing clones, lost a few, theres is now 1-707,2-greencrack, 3-Hindu's, all seeming to be doing the same progress, I'll let these girls run there course & flower, I just germ'ed & planted 6 beans into bubbles, 1st time dealing with seeds, followed R.M.'s tutorial around pg.5 pretty much to the letter.
One thing I'm not sure is when to turn the lights on, there in bubbles & R/W so I just left the 68w CFL on so theres light when they poke through
to much, to soon ?
Regards,
John Whorfin

Sounds to me like you are spot on bro!!

 

[Guido]

i just took these,,,can yo see the trichs enough or do you need closerQUOTE]

I can see em. But it looks to me, like you are still mostly sunny!!

 

[MostlyCrazy]

I'd agree on the trich. 1-2 weeks. Looks mostly clear with maybe up to 30-40% cloudy. Right now it would head high only with little power or staying power so it's time to dial a high! LOL!

My curing process goes something like this. Cut buds and hang - 3-4 days the small and middle sized are dry and ar jarred, 5-7 days the bigger buds are dry and are jarred. 7-10 days the mail colas are dry and are put in sacred jars ( aka Stash). I leave them open for the first day and see if any moisture accumlates in the jar. If it does I put it in a paperbag for one day and that removes the remaining moisture. If the buds stay dry in the jar for a day after I loosely put pack them in then they get a lid and are sealed.

I "burp" them for about 15 min a day for the first week and cut it down to an open and smell check after that. Every once in awhile I will pull the buds out of the jar for visual inspection and a real good smell and put them back in reverse order. They get a full 30 days until the final seal up and they get checked as a pull a bud which is often as it turns out. LOL!

JW - Your figure is correct but it might be a good idea to add your nutrients first and then your additives. Not a big deal ppm wise but it helps with ph adjustments if you don't adjust the ph until the nutes are in. Some nutes have the ability to stabilize the ph to the high 5's so less ph adjustment is needed.

 

[Green007]

JW - I think you are OK with that 1 CFL on. I like darkness. (but maybe the little heat is good)
The seeds won't really need any light until the seed leaves pop up. Once the second set of leaves starts (the first real set of leaves) that's when you can start to add more light.

 

[John Whorfin]

Thanx folks for the response's.
Green007-Thats what I needed to know, I'll turn it off until I see a leave on one of'em.
Best Regards,
John Whorfin

 

[bendog420]

I think ur right another week or two and u shud be str8

i just took these,,,can yo see the trichs enough or do you need closerQUOTE]

I can see em. But it looks to me, like you are still mostly sunny!!

I'd agree on the trich. 1-2 weeks. Looks mostly clear with maybe up to 30-40% cloudy. Right now it would head high only with little power or staying power so it's time to dial a high! LOL!

My curing process goes something like this. Cut buds and hang - 3-4 days the small and middle sized are dry and ar jarred, 5-7 days the bigger buds are dry and are jarred. 7-10 days the mail colas are dry and are put in sacred jars ( aka Stash). I leave them open for the first day and see if any moisture accumlates in the jar. If it does I put it in a paperbag for one day and that removes the remaining moisture. If the buds stay dry in the jar for a day after I loosely put pack them in then they get a lid and are sealed.

I "burp" them for about 15 min a day for the first week and cut it down to an open and smell check after that. Every once in awhile I will pull the buds out of the jar for visual inspection and a real good smell and put them back in reverse order. They get a full 30 days until the final seal up and they get checked as a pull a bud which is often as it turns out. LOL!

thanks on the trich responce,it sucks to cut a week early but hopefully they wil cloud more this week,mc thank you for the process,,gotta go let the pup out be on later

 

[Green007]

Bendog - on the goofy 911 call bro.

JW - In case I wasn't clear, the dark that I like is while the seed is cracking and the tap root is growing. As the Cyclodons (spelling?) emerge, they are searching for the light. So that one CFL is probably just fine to start.

 

[John Whorfin]

Thanx Green007 for the follow up, noted!
Here's a few pic's, just a side note- I usually feel a bit timid posting on sites, 420 is different, I feel very comfortable posting up over here, great group of folks @ 420, I hope it never changes.
Whoops!!!!
I don't think I have enough posts to post pic's, I'll just have to come back to it in the future.

Regards,
J.W.
Edit: I guess its not about how many posts, I needed to post in the gallery & link it up.

 

[Myzz617]

Looks good JW. MC Thx for ur curing process. Man i am having some technical issues. My main PC keeps bluescreening on me so using the laptop for now. Sucks wen u gotta do tech support for ur self for free to haha. Hope everyone had a good weekend.

 

[smokedabong]

Thanks Bro! The plant at the top is ready about now give or take a few minutes!
The outdoors ladies still have about 3-4 weeks left
happy days ob another 3-4 weeks of mother nature fattening those ladies (don't you just love her) they will be comp winners after seeing some of your other entries (all nice bud porn) look forward to seeing more peace

 

[Bandit420]

happy days ob another 3-4 weeks of mother nature fattening those ladies (don't you just love her) they will be comp winners after seeing some of your other entries (all nice bud porn) look forward to seeing more peace

Yeah Man I love a good outdoor grow. It's so easy! No worries about temps, humidity, co2, or any of that stuff. Just give them alot of premium soil, water daily, feed them twice a week and voila! Huge Buds!
What I have outside now is only the first wave of plants going out this season. I have another 5 that will go out in the next week or so and I may try to do a winter crop in my greenhouse after that. All the while the indoor garden will be filled to capacity.

 

[Myzz617]

Yeah Man I love a good outdoor grow. It's so easy! No worries about temps, humidity, co2, or any of that stuff. Just give them alot of premium soil, water daily, feed them twice a week and voila! Huge Buds!
What I have outside now is only the first wave of plants going out this season. I have another 5 that will go out in the next week or so and I may try to do a winter crop in my greenhouse after that. All the while the indoor garden will be filled to capacity.

I needa become ur neighbor

 

[Bandit420]

I needa become ur neighbor

That's funny because my neighbors are clueless as to what i have going on. I've actually worked very hard to give them the impression that I'm an uptight conservative Republican with a nice rose garden.
If they new about my double life they would freak from the shock!

 

[619ster]

Wow it's a whole lot of pages and pages and pages of reading on this thread lol. Wanted to catch up b4 posting and that took weeks and I think I found me a home where the Deep Water Culture roam But just wanted to let my presence be known and I'll be around to join the session Also here for the vast array of info and support from this thread. Seems like more support here than FAQ section lol. Oh and I think I'm falling in love with Deep Water Culture. That's my next step. Doing dwc for now. So much more to learn.

 

[MostlyCrazy]

Welcome 619ster! Glad to have you on board! Ask away as needed!

 

[MostlyCrazy]

My neighbors think I'm growing orchids! I have serveral silk ones I take out and play with in plain sight when the neighbors are in their back yard. LOL!

 

[619ster]

I've asked (with little replies) and searched and maybe I am missing it somewhere but I wanted some info on what is better to do first. Top/fim first then supercrop/lst, or the other way around?

 

[MostlyCrazy]

Top/Fim first is the way I do it. I do that early and save my supercropping for when they get some size later in veg.

 

[Myzz617]

I've asked (with little replies) and searched and maybe I am missing it somewhere but I wanted some info on what is better to do first. Top/fim first then supercrop/lst, or the other way around?

Top and LST I have found out seems to be the best method if your looking for good yield. @ MC and Bandit if only i had my own place. I would deff have a front as well. Gotta love and respect mother nature. Lol @ bandit your double life haha plz you just are smart enough to not profit the next person so you use your brains and skills to produce a product u like to consume. Rather than let someone profit off your habit, seems to be the typical norm in the US someone taking some off the top or making a living off of the next mans habits/addiction or how ever u wana word it. Growing is more sound economically then anything else. Assuming u smoke 90% of it