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Thew1sest. Thanks man! I cant hear it enough!! Im glad im getting to go through it enough times. Even though I do not even have one round finished yet. I have taken 5 rounds of clones already! over 50! So with the system i have, im getting to experience each stage of growing more often than any other way.
I hope your smoke is treating you well! Great work in your harvest sir!!
Blue dog, do you have a picture in your journal? I will get over there after this update, or tomorrow, epending on how long it takes me to write it.
You could make a very effective small cloner out of a 5 gallon bucket that would take up little space, for very very cheap. Always something to keep in mind.
Dime: I briefly read through what i have been missing in your journal earlier today. I am definitely sorry to hear about the PM. But its ok, as it looks like your already getting started with your next round! At least they were as far along as they were and this didnt happen earlier! I am very curious about this water curing thing. Ive heard it produces some of the smoothest smoke you will ever smoke, so this may not be that much of a problem for you!
Update time!
As of lately ive been sitting back at looking at the big picture a little more the last couple days. And have recently jumped on my note taking. I was taking decent notes previous, but Ive decided, with the opportunity to learn as much as i can in such a short time with this setup, I should really jump on the chance to really learn about the strains that I'm growing. SO thats exactly what I'm going to do.
Ill give a brief run through of my new personal note journal for the last couple days.
Mothers: Have learned that 22" is as much room as i have vertically for these plants from the top of their 3gal containers.. Ideally, I will wind up on a schedule where i only take clones from 2 plants per round. 5 clones each. In Order to do this, I'm going to have to begin measuring my clones a little closer. Taking 6-8" tall clones. With clones this size. I think I will only veg for 2-5 days. Plants Need to be smaller than 10" when they go into flower. Also changing this slightly, It will almost be a 12/12 from clone grow. THe size of the roots when I take my clones out of the cloner are large enough that they should support a healthy 12/12 from clone plant.
Group 5 day 3:These plants were very healthy when being transplanted into their 1 gallon containers, with very large root systems already to support the clones. I gave them plain ph h20 upon transplanting on the 1st. Now 3 days later, they appear to simply be hungry. I will feed them 1/2 strength full veg nutes + huvega. I also think with my next round of clones, I will feed them 1/4 strength veg nutes + b1 thrive alive. Make them a low ppm coctail of nutes to get their engines started. I took a very detailed list of notes for each one of the 12 clones in group 5 as well.
Group 4b day 12
This group is very healthy. With the exception of light heat stress, canoeing of fan leaves. PLants are in the 11" to 8" range. Which is perfect height to put into flower. They need a watering, and I will start them on their bloom food at 1/2 strength+ huvega with purple maxx. Not much else to say with this group quite yet. It is nice however to be able to see the same plants in so many different stages of growth at the same time. Its helping alot with understanding the genetics behind each strain I have.
Such as
Bagseed # 18. This strain appears to be able to take reatively heavy ppm nutes, without much easing into feeding schedules. It grows fast, and very tall. Also clones extremely fast. Clones root within the first 3 days, and are ready for transplant within 6-7 days. However, it is very quick to show heat stress. And with temps raising by the week in my garden, this could show some issues later on down the road unless I figure something out.
Bagseed # 4. This strain does very well in heat. With a single cola dominance, and very small leaves, this is definitely an indica plant. It does not grow very fast, as well as it is the slowest to root in the cloner. However, it can take high ppm nutes without any stress.
Bagseed #8 This strain is very temermental. It is slightly sensitive to higher ppm nutes, especially in veg and when young. Also very heat sensitive. But Very great side branch development though.
Group 4A day 4 flower This group is sitting at about 13"- 11" at the canopy. This group is doing very well with no visible leaf issues, and besides the slight heat issues with the # 18 strains, they are in amazing health. Just beginning to spit out a couple of pistils here and there.
I fed on the first with a 10gallon flush as well as 1/2 strength bloom nutes.
25ml Buddha Grow
37.5ml Buddha Bloom
12.5 ml Extreme Serene
37.5ml Trinity
37.5ml HP2
12.5ml HPK
37.5ml Huvega
25ml Calplex
ppm= 663
I will feed these girls tomorrow with a 10 gallon flush and a 1/4 strength bloom feed +purple maxx before moving on to full strength nutes.
Group 3 day day 12 flower. After tying these ladies down yesterday for an even 12 inch tall canopy. They have sprouted up to almost 16" since yesterday!!
They are at the beginning stage of flower production and still stretching quite a bit. I fed them yesterday with 1.4 strength nutes + 1/2 strength purple maxx
12.5ml buddha grow
18.75ml Buddha Bloom
6.25ml extreme serence
18.75ml trinity
18.75ml H2
6.25ml HPK
10ml calplex
18.75ml huvega
3.125ml purple max
225ppm
I will feed them tomorrow or the following depending on how thirsty they are. I will give a 10 gallon flush with full strength bloom food feed without purple maxx.
Group 2 day 25 flower This is the first go through for me with growing any of these strains. And I can say that purple haze is a seriously crazy plant. Dime, this plant is going to give you a run for your money when it comes to trich covering. When growing these plants next to my bagseed, I can definitely tell the difference between breeder quality genetics.These ladies can hold their own when looking at ppm food schedules. I'm going to try and push these ladies as much as I can with the feeding schedule.
I fe these girls with the same food as group 3 two days ago, and again will feed them tomorrow or the following.
Feeding schedules for weeks 2-4 should be very similar.
Group 1 Day 34 Flower
These plants have been showing me problems since about day 27. It started with ramshorning, progressed to yellowing, and then to what appears to be either nute burn/nute lock or salt build up, and even being rootbound.
Some of the leaf issues apear to just be a natural ending to the lants life, but some of the other plants look have a handfull of issues. Temps have also been in the low 90's for the past 5 or 7 days. I need to figure something out quick! Im not too worried about this batch as they are so close to being finished.
My true thoughts are that they are in beginning stages of being rootbound, as they are showing a couple of similar signs with my last grow toward the end, which were also in too small of pots. Anyone else? 33 days of veg I have learned is too long for 1 gallon pots.
Flushing isnt correcting the problem. Feeding with pure water only isnt fixing the problem. Giving them more nutes isnt fixing the problem. Im afraid the plants are just beginning to seize up because of the roots.
Even with the issues I;m dealing with right now, the buds do not seem to be affected by the problem whatsoever. Theya re really starting to stink and get sticky.
No new signs since my incident of the possible herm. As of now I have not seen any new pollen sacs forming, and no soon to be seeds have popped up yet either so this is good news.
I decided that because they are so close, I'm going to go ahead and continue with norma feeding schedules with the flush of 10 gallons every water, and alternate between full strength, and half strength with purple maxx. thanks dime!.
I fed them tonight with:
25ml Buddha Grow
37.5ml Buddha Bloom
12,5ml Extreme serene
37.5ml trinity
37.5ml hp2
12.5ml calplex
37.5ml huvega
25ml purple maxx
442 ppm
ANyway that is quite enough typing. I will hop on tomorrow with more text updates from the last couple of days and to talk about things I have learned so far about this grow, and go over how I;m changing my note taking practices and some mental changes that are occuring with this grow.
For now, here are a bunch of new pictures from tonight!
9 ladies from group 4b day 4 flower
A canopy shot of group 3 day 12 flower
Bagseed top from group 3
Budshots from group 2 day 25 flower
Budshots from bagseed group 1 day 34 flower
Group 1 Colas
group of nugs
A plant from my last grow. I flowered it from seed in the red cup, but vegged for a month. Was rootbound as shit. Fed straight tap water, no ph or nutes ever. Reason im posting, is because, a the ramshorning and downward leaves, as well as the yellowing, and even the purpling patterns are very simiar with a couple of the plants i suspect of being rootbound in group 1. Plus. I liked this little plant.
I hope your smoke is treating you well! Great work in your harvest sir!!
Blue dog, do you have a picture in your journal? I will get over there after this update, or tomorrow, epending on how long it takes me to write it.
You could make a very effective small cloner out of a 5 gallon bucket that would take up little space, for very very cheap. Always something to keep in mind.
Dime: I briefly read through what i have been missing in your journal earlier today. I am definitely sorry to hear about the PM. But its ok, as it looks like your already getting started with your next round! At least they were as far along as they were and this didnt happen earlier! I am very curious about this water curing thing. Ive heard it produces some of the smoothest smoke you will ever smoke, so this may not be that much of a problem for you!
Update time!
As of lately ive been sitting back at looking at the big picture a little more the last couple days. And have recently jumped on my note taking. I was taking decent notes previous, but Ive decided, with the opportunity to learn as much as i can in such a short time with this setup, I should really jump on the chance to really learn about the strains that I'm growing. SO thats exactly what I'm going to do.
Ill give a brief run through of my new personal note journal for the last couple days.
Mothers: Have learned that 22" is as much room as i have vertically for these plants from the top of their 3gal containers.. Ideally, I will wind up on a schedule where i only take clones from 2 plants per round. 5 clones each. In Order to do this, I'm going to have to begin measuring my clones a little closer. Taking 6-8" tall clones. With clones this size. I think I will only veg for 2-5 days. Plants Need to be smaller than 10" when they go into flower. Also changing this slightly, It will almost be a 12/12 from clone grow. THe size of the roots when I take my clones out of the cloner are large enough that they should support a healthy 12/12 from clone plant.
Group 5 day 3:These plants were very healthy when being transplanted into their 1 gallon containers, with very large root systems already to support the clones. I gave them plain ph h20 upon transplanting on the 1st. Now 3 days later, they appear to simply be hungry. I will feed them 1/2 strength full veg nutes + huvega. I also think with my next round of clones, I will feed them 1/4 strength veg nutes + b1 thrive alive. Make them a low ppm coctail of nutes to get their engines started. I took a very detailed list of notes for each one of the 12 clones in group 5 as well.
Group 4b day 12
This group is very healthy. With the exception of light heat stress, canoeing of fan leaves. PLants are in the 11" to 8" range. Which is perfect height to put into flower. They need a watering, and I will start them on their bloom food at 1/2 strength+ huvega with purple maxx. Not much else to say with this group quite yet. It is nice however to be able to see the same plants in so many different stages of growth at the same time. Its helping alot with understanding the genetics behind each strain I have.
Such as
Bagseed # 18. This strain appears to be able to take reatively heavy ppm nutes, without much easing into feeding schedules. It grows fast, and very tall. Also clones extremely fast. Clones root within the first 3 days, and are ready for transplant within 6-7 days. However, it is very quick to show heat stress. And with temps raising by the week in my garden, this could show some issues later on down the road unless I figure something out.
Bagseed # 4. This strain does very well in heat. With a single cola dominance, and very small leaves, this is definitely an indica plant. It does not grow very fast, as well as it is the slowest to root in the cloner. However, it can take high ppm nutes without any stress.
Bagseed #8 This strain is very temermental. It is slightly sensitive to higher ppm nutes, especially in veg and when young. Also very heat sensitive. But Very great side branch development though.
Group 4A day 4 flower This group is sitting at about 13"- 11" at the canopy. This group is doing very well with no visible leaf issues, and besides the slight heat issues with the # 18 strains, they are in amazing health. Just beginning to spit out a couple of pistils here and there.
I fed on the first with a 10gallon flush as well as 1/2 strength bloom nutes.
25ml Buddha Grow
37.5ml Buddha Bloom
12.5 ml Extreme Serene
37.5ml Trinity
37.5ml HP2
12.5ml HPK
37.5ml Huvega
25ml Calplex
ppm= 663
I will feed these girls tomorrow with a 10 gallon flush and a 1/4 strength bloom feed +purple maxx before moving on to full strength nutes.
Group 3 day day 12 flower. After tying these ladies down yesterday for an even 12 inch tall canopy. They have sprouted up to almost 16" since yesterday!!
They are at the beginning stage of flower production and still stretching quite a bit. I fed them yesterday with 1.4 strength nutes + 1/2 strength purple maxx
12.5ml buddha grow
18.75ml Buddha Bloom
6.25ml extreme serence
18.75ml trinity
18.75ml H2
6.25ml HPK
10ml calplex
18.75ml huvega
3.125ml purple max
225ppm
I will feed them tomorrow or the following depending on how thirsty they are. I will give a 10 gallon flush with full strength bloom food feed without purple maxx.
Group 2 day 25 flower This is the first go through for me with growing any of these strains. And I can say that purple haze is a seriously crazy plant. Dime, this plant is going to give you a run for your money when it comes to trich covering. When growing these plants next to my bagseed, I can definitely tell the difference between breeder quality genetics.These ladies can hold their own when looking at ppm food schedules. I'm going to try and push these ladies as much as I can with the feeding schedule.
I fe these girls with the same food as group 3 two days ago, and again will feed them tomorrow or the following.
Feeding schedules for weeks 2-4 should be very similar.
Group 1 Day 34 Flower
These plants have been showing me problems since about day 27. It started with ramshorning, progressed to yellowing, and then to what appears to be either nute burn/nute lock or salt build up, and even being rootbound.
Some of the leaf issues apear to just be a natural ending to the lants life, but some of the other plants look have a handfull of issues. Temps have also been in the low 90's for the past 5 or 7 days. I need to figure something out quick! Im not too worried about this batch as they are so close to being finished.
My true thoughts are that they are in beginning stages of being rootbound, as they are showing a couple of similar signs with my last grow toward the end, which were also in too small of pots. Anyone else? 33 days of veg I have learned is too long for 1 gallon pots.
Flushing isnt correcting the problem. Feeding with pure water only isnt fixing the problem. Giving them more nutes isnt fixing the problem. Im afraid the plants are just beginning to seize up because of the roots.
Even with the issues I;m dealing with right now, the buds do not seem to be affected by the problem whatsoever. Theya re really starting to stink and get sticky.
No new signs since my incident of the possible herm. As of now I have not seen any new pollen sacs forming, and no soon to be seeds have popped up yet either so this is good news.
I decided that because they are so close, I'm going to go ahead and continue with norma feeding schedules with the flush of 10 gallons every water, and alternate between full strength, and half strength with purple maxx. thanks dime!.
I fed them tonight with:
25ml Buddha Grow
37.5ml Buddha Bloom
12,5ml Extreme serene
37.5ml trinity
37.5ml hp2
12.5ml calplex
37.5ml huvega
25ml purple maxx
442 ppm
ANyway that is quite enough typing. I will hop on tomorrow with more text updates from the last couple of days and to talk about things I have learned so far about this grow, and go over how I;m changing my note taking practices and some mental changes that are occuring with this grow.
For now, here are a bunch of new pictures from tonight!
9 ladies from group 4b day 4 flower
A canopy shot of group 3 day 12 flower
Bagseed top from group 3
Budshots from group 2 day 25 flower
Budshots from bagseed group 1 day 34 flower
Group 1 Colas
group of nugs
A plant from my last grow. I flowered it from seed in the red cup, but vegged for a month. Was rootbound as shit. Fed straight tap water, no ph or nutes ever. Reason im posting, is because, a the ramshorning and downward leaves, as well as the yellowing, and even the purpling patterns are very simiar with a couple of the plants i suspect of being rootbound in group 1. Plus. I liked this little plant.
Didn't sound too promising to me. What makes you think it will work as you intend?
