My So. Cal. plot is legal with 6 plants in the ground (actually now 4, with 2 cut and hanging.) At the end of August the uncut ladies, 1 GG4 at about 5 ft X 5 ft, 3 Afghan Kush plants that display a bit of genetic diversity at 6, 7, and 8 ft respectively tall and lush behind but hardly obscured by the required 6 ft fence. This year's harvest given previous experience should produce 6-10 lbs of dried and 2 months cured cannabis. They will set on shelves in a dark closet waiting for consumption or gifting-where most will go the legally allowed 1 oz at a time. BUT..... the possession limit is 8 oz. If any official notice is taken of me and my cannabis-could possession include wet weight(?) is another Q I have. As a long-time cannabis scofflaw I don't worry about authorities but I wonder about em and the pols who write contradictory regulations and the confused and inconsistent courts that enforce them (or not).
Do your local cultivation regulations make sense?
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Fuzzy Duck
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It would depend on country,state,county or what ever relating to the governed judicial law depending on such allegations.
Or the person or person's over viewing such & believed intentions of what ever.
It really is a bit like, but you may have to base this on popular opinion around what ever part of world ya live vs risk/reward.
Or the person or person's over viewing such & believed intentions of what ever.
It really is a bit like, but you may have to base this on popular opinion around what ever part of world ya live vs risk/reward.
Every State different on top of local jurisdiction baloney, but if you not drawing attention to yourself or breaking the laws far as distribution goes (here you can't sell or trade it but can give it away to anyone over 21) odds are against them knowing how much you have. In Oregon you allowed only 4 plants including seedlings and/or clones, so if you growing regular seeds and have my lousy luck 
(last couple times I popped two of a Strain both were males) you could have 3 males and end up with only one plant that is usable, and not everyone gets 8 oz off a plant. They just have to come up with "magic numbers" to differentiate between growing for yourself and growing commercially (and selling blackmarket) as folks always trying to work the system. Far as wet weight goes would depend on the local authorities as we all know wet weight is meaningless, but when they do grow busts they use the weight of the whole wet plant and they almost always base it's "value" off of gram prices (street sells for $10 a gram so for every pound that's $10 times 454.4 grams for a total of $4,544 a pound....as we all know nobody gives a break when you buy a pound/kilo/bale 
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(last couple times I popped two of a Strain both were males) you could have 3 males and end up with only one plant that is usable, and not everyone gets 8 oz off a plant. They just have to come up with "magic numbers" to differentiate between growing for yourself and growing commercially (and selling blackmarket) as folks always trying to work the system. Far as wet weight goes would depend on the local authorities as we all know wet weight is meaningless, but when they do grow busts they use the weight of the whole wet plant and they almost always base it's "value" off of gram prices (street sells for $10 a gram so for every pound that's $10 times 454.4 grams for a total of $4,544 a pound....as we all know nobody gives a break when you buy a pound/kilo/bale ).- Thread starter
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Thank you. The regs are of academic interest at best to me as I wager many on the 420 Forum. You are spot on about the sleazy interpretations. But I am basically a cannabis outlaw in spirit and past practice, disabled and loving my remaining years as free as I can be. Fuck em.
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As DM noted, in Oregon one can grow 4 plants w/out a med card (I think it's 12 w/ a med card).
But possession of "usuable" (dried flowers, etc) is capped at 8 ounces & even a pretty poor grower can easily manage to produce more than 8 oz, while good growers with the right stock can easily get 4 lb of bud off of 4 plants...
So, that doesn't make a lot of sense. I also think the situation DM described in OR has stimulated clone sales for growing, though I think that was entirely unintended.
It's pretty tangled & unstreamlined among the states...I've got a good friend in Wa w/ a med card, but it's still really dif. to go thru the maze for an allowed personal med grow for personal consumption for med. reasons, even w/ the card.
& WA allows no pers. rec grows...
In OR, counties & cities are allowed to prohibit commercial cannabis activities including growing, retail, etc., but they cannot prohibit personal grows & I'm pretty sure they can't keep you from growing yr own outside, if you wish, as long as the grow conforms w/ general regs (4 plants, out of public view, etc.)
But: in CA, counties & municipalities can prohibit outside grows, though one can still grow one's personal allotment indoors. Which is incredibly stupid.
Places like Etna CA have prohibited outdoor cultivation, even for personal use, so one can only grow indoors. Criminal in this age, when the planet's being killed by the byproducts of energy consumption & Etna has damn near perfect outdoor growing climate (& could really use a more diversified economy!)
"Flash point" a radio news show out of KPFA Berkely recently did an hour long program on how screwed up the CA roll out of legal rec weed has been. Included a panel of medical weed activists, long time growers trying to get with legal regulated systems, consumers, rec activists, & attorneys. They did a good job of thoroughly explaining the titanic multi-faceted fail in CA. Holy heck what a mess.
Sorry CA, I really thought you'd do better. I was really pulling for you!
No surprise that the actual tax revenues in CA have been about 40% below projections, while in virtually every other western legal state (NV, OR, CO, WA) revenues have greatly exceeded revenue projections.
OR is having some growing pains (pun intended), including overproduction, as DM noted, driving prices into the basement. But although that's been fatal for some growers & dispensaries, it's great for retail consumers. Easy to find absolute topshelf bud for $5/g. But again, not so good for the biz, especially small indie ops, which may very well be awful for everyone in OR in the longterm as big ops have already bought up failing mom & pop grow ops & dispensaries
But, I'm glad I live in a state where I can grow what I want, under the sun!
But possession of "usuable" (dried flowers, etc) is capped at 8 ounces & even a pretty poor grower can easily manage to produce more than 8 oz, while good growers with the right stock can easily get 4 lb of bud off of 4 plants...
So, that doesn't make a lot of sense. I also think the situation DM described in OR has stimulated clone sales for growing, though I think that was entirely unintended.
It's pretty tangled & unstreamlined among the states...I've got a good friend in Wa w/ a med card, but it's still really dif. to go thru the maze for an allowed personal med grow for personal consumption for med. reasons, even w/ the card.
& WA allows no pers. rec grows...
In OR, counties & cities are allowed to prohibit commercial cannabis activities including growing, retail, etc., but they cannot prohibit personal grows & I'm pretty sure they can't keep you from growing yr own outside, if you wish, as long as the grow conforms w/ general regs (4 plants, out of public view, etc.)
But: in CA, counties & municipalities can prohibit outside grows, though one can still grow one's personal allotment indoors. Which is incredibly stupid.
Places like Etna CA have prohibited outdoor cultivation, even for personal use, so one can only grow indoors. Criminal in this age, when the planet's being killed by the byproducts of energy consumption & Etna has damn near perfect outdoor growing climate (& could really use a more diversified economy!)
"Flash point" a radio news show out of KPFA Berkely recently did an hour long program on how screwed up the CA roll out of legal rec weed has been. Included a panel of medical weed activists, long time growers trying to get with legal regulated systems, consumers, rec activists, & attorneys. They did a good job of thoroughly explaining the titanic multi-faceted fail in CA. Holy heck what a mess.
Sorry CA, I really thought you'd do better. I was really pulling for you!
No surprise that the actual tax revenues in CA have been about 40% below projections, while in virtually every other western legal state (NV, OR, CO, WA) revenues have greatly exceeded revenue projections.
OR is having some growing pains (pun intended), including overproduction, as DM noted, driving prices into the basement. But although that's been fatal for some growers & dispensaries, it's great for retail consumers. Easy to find absolute topshelf bud for $5/g. But again, not so good for the biz, especially small indie ops, which may very well be awful for everyone in OR in the longterm as big ops have already bought up failing mom & pop grow ops & dispensaries
But, I'm glad I live in a state where I can grow what I want, under the sun!
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Thank you A. for such a thoughtful review. At this point in my life, formerly an activist, I am distanced from the workings of what Molly Ivins in TX called the "ledg." But past experience suggests cannabis is held in check by opportunist panderers in our ledg.As DM noted, in Oregon one can grow 4 plants w/out a med card (I think it's 12 w/ a med card).
But possession of "usuable" (dried flowers, etc) is capped at 8 ounces & even a pretty poor grower can easily manage to produce more than 8 oz, while good growers with the right stock can easily get 4 lb of bud off of 4 plants...
So, that doesn't make a lot of sense. I also think the situation DM described in OR has stimulated clone sales for growing, though I think that was entirely unintended.
It's pretty tangled & unstreamlined among the states...I've got a good friend in Wa w/ a med card, but it's still really dif. to go thru the maze for an allowed personal med grow for personal consumption for med. reasons, even w/ the card.
& WA allows no pers. rec grows...
In OR, counties & cities are allowed to prohibit commercial cannabis activities including growing, retail, etc., but they cannot prohibit personal grows & I'm pretty sure they can't keep you from growing yr own outside, if you wish, as long as the grow conforms w/ general regs (4 plants, out of public view, etc.)
But: in CA, counties & municipalities can prohibit outside grows, though one can still grow one's personal allotment indoors. Which is incredibly stupid.
Places like Etna CA have prohibited outdoor cultivation, even for personal use, so one can only grow indoors. Criminal in this age, when the planet's being killed by the byproducts of energy consumption & Etna has damn near perfect outdoor growing climate (& could really use a more diversified economy!)
"Flash point" a radio news show out of KPFA Berkely recently did an hour long program on how screwed up the CA roll out of legal rec weed has been. Included a panel of medical weed activists, long time growers trying to get with legal regulated systems, consumers, rec activists, & attorneys. They did a good job of thoroughly explaining the titanic multi-faceted fail in CA. Holy heck what a mess.
Sorry CA, I really thought you'd do better. I was really pulling for you!
No surprise that the actual tax revenues in CA have been about 40% below projections, while in virtually every other western legal state (NV, OR, CO, WA) revenues have greatly exceeded revenue projections.
OR is having some growing pains (pun intended), including overproduction, as DM noted, driving prices into the basement. But although that's been fatal for some growers & dispensaries, it's great for retail consumers. Easy to find absolute topshelf bud for $5/g. But again, not so good for the biz, especially small indie ops, which may very well be awful for everyone in OR in the longterm as big ops have already bought up failing mom & pop grow ops & dispensaries
But, I'm glad I live in a state where I can grow what I want, under the sun!
Maine allows 6x mature and 6x flowering per adult. That is supposed to be amended to 3x per next legislative session, but we'll see. Additionally, you are allowed to transport/carry and give away up to 2.5 oz. Best of all you are allowed to possess all you produce, no limit.
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andIhalped
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Def. makes more sense.
& it's great to see the many fantastic NE grows on this board.
One other bit of nonsense on the reg. front: NV is the only western state that honors valid med cards from other states--none of the other states do, which is insane,
But NV's rollout may have been one of the best & sanest. Having lived for several years in that wholly beserk state, I wasn't surprised because:
NV's got a long history of semi-successfully legalizing & regulating what other states have considered vice: prostitution, gambling, easy divorce, etc. They're kinda the (very) redneck version of the Netherlands.
I think folks will be allowed to smoke weed in NV casinos within a few years...it's being considered in their legislature & the casino's know it doesn't enhance gambling performance, so they're good with it....
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