I think there is some of that going on. Either way now I'm going to be watching my trichs like some kind of obsessed stalker in the bushes
Trichomes development
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I have certainly noticed that some to a lot of cloudy trikes happen very early on in the budding stage. Perhaps some even begin cloudy
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It's because more and more milky trichomes are produced as the bud matures which gives the appearance that clear are turning milky. Do you guys think all the trichs form all at once as clear trichs and then turn milky. Doesn't it make more sense that the oldest trichs start to decay by turning clear then to amber upon further decay and then to dark brown as final stage of decay?
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You guys watch your formation stages a lot more closely and see what you see. I'm only telling you what I see and have always seen. And I have 2000 specimens to look at right now!
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Impressive plants Thunderbolt! Welcome!
I'm not one to harvest based solely on trichomes, so I can't say that I watch them go from clear to cloudy or vice versa.
You should mention that the cbg plants you are working with have a very unique visual quality to the resin that is different than a thc or cbd cultivar.
I'm not one to harvest based solely on trichomes, so I can't say that I watch them go from clear to cloudy or vice versa.
You should mention that the cbg plants you are working with have a very unique visual quality to the resin that is different than a thc or cbd cultivar.
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Thank you Cannafish! I am only saying what I see and it really matters none because the ambers are what we are all looking for anyways to determine harvest timing.
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And actually the first cannabinoid produced is CBGA. From there through decarboxylization it will form either CBG neutral compound; THCA or CBDA. From there you know what forms from those. Of course, that is the simplified version of the processes involved and it is all in the genetics and phenotypes. I appreciate you guys all accepting me into your group and being friendly still despite having differing opinions.
maybe you've read this...
"As with the sessile type, the resin head on capitate stalked trichomes would swell during the early stages of development, as the secretory cells became active. The contents of the resin head were clear during the earlier stages of development, but would become opaque-white in older specimens. In most cases this would not occur until trichomes were at least four weeks old, but the rate of loss of transparency was a genotypically-dependent characteristic. In CBG-dominant clones (eg M280, Figure 3.13) glandular heads would become a dense opaque-white when just a few days old. This was an unusual example of where the microscope could be used to help identify a cannabis plant’s chemotype. Further ageing of most genotypes would sometimes result in the resin heads turning brown. This colouration was often seen to commence within the disk of secretory cells, and was possibly due to necrosis of these now inactive tissues. This browning would continue after plants had been harvested and dried."
"As with the sessile type, the resin head on capitate stalked trichomes would swell during the early stages of development, as the secretory cells became active. The contents of the resin head were clear during the earlier stages of development, but would become opaque-white in older specimens. In most cases this would not occur until trichomes were at least four weeks old, but the rate of loss of transparency was a genotypically-dependent characteristic. In CBG-dominant clones (eg M280, Figure 3.13) glandular heads would become a dense opaque-white when just a few days old. This was an unusual example of where the microscope could be used to help identify a cannabis plant’s chemotype. Further ageing of most genotypes would sometimes result in the resin heads turning brown. This colouration was often seen to commence within the disk of secretory cells, and was possibly due to necrosis of these now inactive tissues. This browning would continue after plants had been harvested and dried."
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No I have not seen that excerpt before. That certainly explains what I am seeing with these CBG clones! Interesting. Thanks for that info Cannafish.
That seems to explain why they start out cloudy. There's something very special about those cbg clones in how they don't turn on thc or cbd. Are you growing Panakeia?
Detective @CannaFish solves the mystery. Nice one. 
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No I am growing Super CBG. Clones from Alterra Farms, CO.
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It should test out in the upper teens % CBG and has high terpenes. It smells really good and should have some good flavor. Unusual for CBG. I am going to sell it as smokable flower.
look loads of amber from cloudy /clear in hours lol 
As long as it does the job
As long as it does the job
I've smoked CBG flowers "White Whale". The terp profile was very hempy and dull, but I did like the effect. I've got some seeds from it as well.
Perhaps one of y'all could give a brief rundown about cbg as the compound is news to me
Cheers for a fresh and interesting topic
Cheers for a fresh and interesting topic
As the cannabis plant matures, CBGA, which is the acidic form of CBG, is converted by plant enzymes into some ratio of the three major cannabinoid precursors: tetrahydrocannabinolic acid (THCA), cannabidiolic acid (CBDA), and cannabichromenic acid (CBCA).
From the amounts of CBGA that are not converted into these precursors, or any of the other minor cannabinoids, CBG is formed through decarboxylation.
Due to this process, cannabis strains ordinarily contain very little CBG, often below 1 percent by weight. In order to obtain higher yields of CBG within cannabis, specialist plant breeders have begun experimenting with genetic manipulation and crossbreeding. Leafly reports that scientists have also successfully pinpointed the optimum extraction window for cannabis in order to preserve the highest amounts of CBG, recommending extraction be done around six weeks into an eight-week flowering cycle.
CBG benefits
Unlike CBD, which has a relatively low affinity for cannabinoid receptors and acts mostly through indirect interactions with the endocannabinoid system, CBG is thought to elicit its therapeutic effects directly though interaction with the CB1 and CB2 cannabinoid receptors in the brain.
The psychoactive cannabinoid THC also produces its psychoactive effects though interactions with these receptors; CBG has been observed to work as a buffer to THC’s psychoactivity and can even alleviate the feelings of paranoia that sometimes come with consumption of high levels of THC.
Research is relatively sparse regarding the therapeutic benefits of CBG, when compared to the apparent wealth of information available on THC and CBD within the cannabis science community. But there are early studies linking the compound to a whole host of potential therapeutic uses, such as:
- Treating glaucoma, though its vasodilator and neuroprotective effects.
- Decreasing inflammation, as seen in animal models of inflammatory bowel disease.
- Combatting Huntingdon’s disease, again through its neuroprotective effects.
- Inhibiting tumor growth, in animal models of colorectal cancer.
- Killing drug-resistant bacteria, such as methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA).
The difficulty producing CBG
With no intoxicating effects and a vast number of potential therapeutic uses, why hasn’t CBG experienced the same swell in popularity as CBD?
The largest stumbling block to CBG’s realization as a common therapeutic treatment is the cost of its production. CBG is thought to be one of the most expensive cannabinoids to produce, so much so that it has been dubbed “the Rolls-Royce of cannabinoids.”
“It takes thousands of pounds of biomass to create small amounts of CBG isolate,” James Rowland, CEO of the Colorado CBG brand Steve’s Goods, told Forbes.
“That’s because most hemp only contains minute percentages of CBG, whereas there are now hemp strains that contain 20 percent CBD in the crop. If the CBG content of the same crop is only 1 percent, that means you need to extract 20 times the amount of biomass to get the same amount of CBG out.”
CBG also presents a problem to cultivators. The longer that a cannabis plant matures, the more chance there is that the CBGA and CBG present in the strain will be converted into other cannabinoids. This leaves cultivators with a choice: either grow cannabis with the express purpose of producing CBG, meaning that you can harvest the crop early before this conversion completes; or allow the crop to fully mature, so that some of the crop can be sold for other purposes but the rest will have a lower CBG content for extraction.
As well as requiring larger amounts of plant material compared to THC or CBD extraction, CBG extraction also requires the use of specialized production equipment. Due to the low levels of CBG present in cannabis strains, the chromatography apparatus that is used to isolate and purify CBG extracts need to be as precise as possible, in order to not necessitate using even more raw cannabis or hemp material than is absolutely needed. The cost of this high-performance chromatography apparatus can be a high, up-front production cost for processors who may not already operate this equipment in their standard processing procedures.
“The cannabinoid specific markets are going to wildly fluctuate for another few years until the demand evens out,” added Rowland. “I do think it will remain considerably more expensive than CBD for a long time, but if CBD prices drop, you’ll see CBG prices drop too.”
Hi @CBG Thunderbolt ,
How are the plants shaping up?
are you having to support them?
Any ideas on judging maturity with these CBG trichomes?
How are the plants shaping up?
are you having to support them?
Any ideas on judging maturity with these CBG trichomes?
