11 weeks, start flush?
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No Pain
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looks like she is still got a lot more to give ..and is a sativa at that ..I just finished up my ak47 and they flowered for 16 weeks and at that time I have about 5 percent amber trichomes.
Harvesting Marijuana! When To Harvest Your Marijuana Crop
By DJ Short
There are several important points to consider when choosing the optimum time to harvest your marijuana crop. There are different factors to consider between indoor and outdoor marijuana plants. There is the difference between Sativas and Indicas in bloom duration and final effect.
There is the difference between early and late harvest to encourage head to body high respectively. There is the issue of chemistry because what we are really considering in terms of the ripeness relates directly to the chemical nature and state of the plant at harvest. Last, but not least, is the concept of the window for marijuana harvest, where I will begin.
Window For Harvesting Your Marijuana Crop
This term indicates the period during which the plant is at its optimum state of ripeness. The window opens when the plant is first ripe. Somewhere along the line the plant becomes over-ripe which signifies the closing of the window of harvest.
For most Indicas grown indoors, the window of harvest is about two weeks long give or take a couple of days for various strains. Indoors, if going directly from an 18/6 hour vegetative light cycle to a 12/12 hour bud cycle, most indicas take about eight weeks to fully mature.
As to outdoors I can only speak from experience at the 45th parallel and the bloom times there. At the 45th parallel I've found most Indicas to be at peak harvest starting at the beginning of October, sometimes very late September, and running until the end of October, sometimes running into November during mild years or in a greenhouse. My favorite time to harvest a nice Blueberry Indica outdoors is in the second to third week of October.
For Sativa grown either indoors or outdoors, the window may be open much longer. Some Sativas take up to thirteen weeks to mature indoors. Outdoors many will go well into November and even December, if conditions are right (again, this is near or at the 45th parallel). Head High or Body Stone?
An important consideration has to do with one's preference for a head high or more of a body high. A good head high can positively influence one's mental state much like a psychedelic; whereas a good body high is more similar to a narcotic effect. Generally, head highs tend to be more up and body highs tend to be more down. Suffice it to say that a good healthy mix of the two is a fine goal to achieve.
Sativas and early window harvests tend to be more of a head high, whereas Indicas and late window harvests tend to be more of a body high. Given this rule of thumb you can pretty much come up with what you want. That is, if you prefer a very psychedelic head high, then an early harvested Sativa might do best.
If a very narcotic body high is desired, then a late harvest indicas would probably do best. For that best-of-both worlds high, experimentation with late harvested sativas and early-to-mid harvested indicas usually proves interesting.
Magnify Your Buds
When we speak of various highs experienced by different products, we are noting variations in plant chemistry. The chemicals we enjoy are produced within the glandular stalked trichomes, along the surfaces of the bud flowers (calyxes), bracts, leaves and stems, starting in or around the fourth week of the bud cycle. More and more of these trichomes develop as the plant matures.
I highly recommend that the serious cannabis student acquire a 30X power, illuminated magnifier. These can be found at most local electronics stores, often for under fifteen dollars. With the aid of the magnifier one can learn more about the detail of trichome development and ripeness.
As far as trichomes are concerned, the tall ones with swollen, clear, bulbous heads are what to shoot for. The denser the concentration, the greater the potency.
The Cycle Of Marijuana Plant Maturity
Starting in the third or fourth week of the flowering light cycle, glandular stalked trichomes will begin to form along the surfaces of leaves, flowers, bracts and stems. At the same time, more and more flowers (also called calyxes) develop into densely-packed floral clusters.
The pistils of the young flowers are bright white and turn reddish brown with age. The pistils and flowers develop from the bottom of the bud to the top. The older, lower pistils are the first to turn reddish brown. For most basic indicas this usually happens by the sixth week in the flowering cycle. It is about this time that the calyxes begin to swell.
Calyx swelling is a major indicator of peak maturity. The lowest, oldest calyxes swell first and the swelling works its way up to the highest, youngest flowers on each bud. At peak maturity about 90% of the calyxes will almost look seeded, they are so fat.
Three quarters to 90% of the pistils will have turned reddish brown as well. For a basic Indica this takes well into the seventh week of the flowering cycle.
By the end of the eighth week most of the calyxes will have swollen and a surge of trichome development has coated most of the buds. It is now that the development of a very discerning palate comes into play to determine the finest harvest time. Remember - patience is a virtue and often a discipline.
The ripening signs for most Sativas are highly similar, except extended over a longer period of time. Occasionally, some Sativas have windows of peak harvest that actually open and close. That is, for a week or so the plant may exhibit signs of peak ripeness.
However, a week later the plant may have a growth spurt, which lowers the trichome-to-fibre ratio and overall potency for a little while. Usually a fibrous growth spurt is accompanied by a corresponding trichome increase. Again, time and experience are the key elements in this regard.
Changes In Marijuana Chemistry
As the plant matures through its window of harvest its chemistry changes. As the window closes, the more desirable compounds begin breaking down into less desirable ones. Primarily it is THC breaking down in CBNs and CBDs.
Which particular combination of chemicals is the most desirable is purely a matter of taste and choice, developed over time and with experience. Set and setting also play an important role in determining which type of product is best appreciated.
Pleasant head highs are often desirable for social occasions, whereas a narcotic late-window Indica may work better as an evening medicinal herb. The main point is that these differences are chemical in nature and more research is needed to more fully understand this phenomenon.
Another important point is that much can be done to further enhance the chemical process, especially in regard to bouquet, aroma and flavour, given the proper curing process.
Harvesting Marijuana! When To Harvest Your Marijuana Crop
By DJ Short
There are several important points to consider when choosing the optimum time to harvest your marijuana crop. There are different factors to consider between indoor and outdoor marijuana plants. There is the difference between Sativas and Indicas in bloom duration and final effect.
There is the difference between early and late harvest to encourage head to body high respectively. There is the issue of chemistry because what we are really considering in terms of the ripeness relates directly to the chemical nature and state of the plant at harvest. Last, but not least, is the concept of the window for marijuana harvest, where I will begin.
Window For Harvesting Your Marijuana Crop
This term indicates the period during which the plant is at its optimum state of ripeness. The window opens when the plant is first ripe. Somewhere along the line the plant becomes over-ripe which signifies the closing of the window of harvest.
For most Indicas grown indoors, the window of harvest is about two weeks long give or take a couple of days for various strains. Indoors, if going directly from an 18/6 hour vegetative light cycle to a 12/12 hour bud cycle, most indicas take about eight weeks to fully mature.
As to outdoors I can only speak from experience at the 45th parallel and the bloom times there. At the 45th parallel I've found most Indicas to be at peak harvest starting at the beginning of October, sometimes very late September, and running until the end of October, sometimes running into November during mild years or in a greenhouse. My favorite time to harvest a nice Blueberry Indica outdoors is in the second to third week of October.
For Sativa grown either indoors or outdoors, the window may be open much longer. Some Sativas take up to thirteen weeks to mature indoors. Outdoors many will go well into November and even December, if conditions are right (again, this is near or at the 45th parallel). Head High or Body Stone?
An important consideration has to do with one's preference for a head high or more of a body high. A good head high can positively influence one's mental state much like a psychedelic; whereas a good body high is more similar to a narcotic effect. Generally, head highs tend to be more up and body highs tend to be more down. Suffice it to say that a good healthy mix of the two is a fine goal to achieve.
Sativas and early window harvests tend to be more of a head high, whereas Indicas and late window harvests tend to be more of a body high. Given this rule of thumb you can pretty much come up with what you want. That is, if you prefer a very psychedelic head high, then an early harvested Sativa might do best.
If a very narcotic body high is desired, then a late harvest indicas would probably do best. For that best-of-both worlds high, experimentation with late harvested sativas and early-to-mid harvested indicas usually proves interesting.
Magnify Your Buds
When we speak of various highs experienced by different products, we are noting variations in plant chemistry. The chemicals we enjoy are produced within the glandular stalked trichomes, along the surfaces of the bud flowers (calyxes), bracts, leaves and stems, starting in or around the fourth week of the bud cycle. More and more of these trichomes develop as the plant matures.
I highly recommend that the serious cannabis student acquire a 30X power, illuminated magnifier. These can be found at most local electronics stores, often for under fifteen dollars. With the aid of the magnifier one can learn more about the detail of trichome development and ripeness.
As far as trichomes are concerned, the tall ones with swollen, clear, bulbous heads are what to shoot for. The denser the concentration, the greater the potency.
The Cycle Of Marijuana Plant Maturity
Starting in the third or fourth week of the flowering light cycle, glandular stalked trichomes will begin to form along the surfaces of leaves, flowers, bracts and stems. At the same time, more and more flowers (also called calyxes) develop into densely-packed floral clusters.
The pistils of the young flowers are bright white and turn reddish brown with age. The pistils and flowers develop from the bottom of the bud to the top. The older, lower pistils are the first to turn reddish brown. For most basic indicas this usually happens by the sixth week in the flowering cycle. It is about this time that the calyxes begin to swell.
Calyx swelling is a major indicator of peak maturity. The lowest, oldest calyxes swell first and the swelling works its way up to the highest, youngest flowers on each bud. At peak maturity about 90% of the calyxes will almost look seeded, they are so fat.
Three quarters to 90% of the pistils will have turned reddish brown as well. For a basic Indica this takes well into the seventh week of the flowering cycle.
By the end of the eighth week most of the calyxes will have swollen and a surge of trichome development has coated most of the buds. It is now that the development of a very discerning palate comes into play to determine the finest harvest time. Remember - patience is a virtue and often a discipline.
The ripening signs for most Sativas are highly similar, except extended over a longer period of time. Occasionally, some Sativas have windows of peak harvest that actually open and close. That is, for a week or so the plant may exhibit signs of peak ripeness.
However, a week later the plant may have a growth spurt, which lowers the trichome-to-fibre ratio and overall potency for a little while. Usually a fibrous growth spurt is accompanied by a corresponding trichome increase. Again, time and experience are the key elements in this regard.
Changes In Marijuana Chemistry
As the plant matures through its window of harvest its chemistry changes. As the window closes, the more desirable compounds begin breaking down into less desirable ones. Primarily it is THC breaking down in CBNs and CBDs.
Which particular combination of chemicals is the most desirable is purely a matter of taste and choice, developed over time and with experience. Set and setting also play an important role in determining which type of product is best appreciated.
Pleasant head highs are often desirable for social occasions, whereas a narcotic late-window Indica may work better as an evening medicinal herb. The main point is that these differences are chemical in nature and more research is needed to more fully understand this phenomenon.
Another important point is that much can be done to further enhance the chemical process, especially in regard to bouquet, aroma and flavour, given the proper curing process.
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Gnomex26
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Thank you very much for the useful info. Very appreciated.
Elmer Fud
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By a loop. Then see if the trichomies are Amber. Depending on the type of high you want. More amber = couchlock. More cloudy clear = the more of a uplifting sativa feeling you'll have (if its indica which that looks like)
I generally like 60% clear and cloudy and 40% amber. It all depends on the high you want. BUT you DO NOT harvest by a "set time" that's just a guideline. You watch trichomies and they will let ya know
I generally like 60% clear and cloudy and 40% amber. It all depends on the high you want. BUT you DO NOT harvest by a "set time" that's just a guideline. You watch trichomies and they will let ya know
We don’t flush in my neck of the woods feed till chop do ur research it’s basically impossible to flush all nutrients from the buds
Greenlizard
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By a loop. Then see if the trichomies are Amber. Depending on the type of high you want. More amber = couchlock. More cloudy clear = the more of a uplifting sativa feeling you'll have (if its indica which that looks like)
I generally like 60% clear and cloudy and 40% amber. It all depends on the high you want. BUT you DO NOT harvest by a "set time" that's just a guideline. You watch trichomies and they will let ya know
Just curious. Do you flush at your grow facilities @Elmer Fud ?
scrogster
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That shit is funny ..... Search up flush mmj . you will find more info. On flushing then not flushing. To each there own I personally flush. No disrespect jack420 that's just what I have been doing and works for me and I get big , fat, sticky, stinky rock hard flowers. 
Elmer Fud
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This is very VERY untrue. Sorry to say, but unless you feed your medium 110% correctly, prior to planting a seed/clone, you will need to flush. OR, if you use mineral powders only throughout you can get away with out flushing. But you can most CERTAINLY get most of the salts out. Enough where it makes a very big impact on the terp profile, due to the lack of salts in your finished material. It even burns better.. .
If you want huge fat nugz. You need 2 things at least. And with the 2nd, you NEED TO FLUSH.
1. Genetics
2. Supplements (of some sort)
Also, if you're concentrate guru, you damn well know that if you DO NOT flush when using 3rd party supplements,,,, Then your crude/ washed material will be dark... It's the salts. When I flush my gardens, I can sleep at night with ease knowing my patients are happy with their CLEAN medicine. And easy burning joints. Grayish ash in color. Not black.. Also knowing my concentrates will be that beautiful gold everyone wants.
Elmer Fud
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Yuppers! I use a special fertilizer with my grows and a blooming agent 1 week prior to flower l, through to the 4th week in flower. To help fatten the buds. And also a special maple syrup blend. So I have to flush. My soil does all the rest tho! Happy medium = happy plants!
Just my input n new info I seen on here but I could b wrong I’m just saying I did a last grow did amazingly don’t knock it till u try it I can’t c the difference lol usually autos don’t yield much this one did killer
Even I was big on flushing but actually tried not flushing wow all I have to say nice chunky nugs
Elmer Fud
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This tells us nothing. BUT, you wont have quad A material if you didnt flush and used nutes throught the grow cycle. Just saying. No matter what, it will not taste or be as good as if u flushed.Just my input n new info I seen on here but I could b wrong I’m just saying I did a last grow did amazingly don’t knock it till u try it I can’t c the difference lol usually autos don’t yield much this one did killer
Everyone learns new things everyday. All good brother.
All I put is my opinion I’m still learning just like everyone
Elmer Fud
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Not flushing DOES NOT increase yields. That's laughable at best lol. (All in good fun hehe) You might have grown them in different medium then b4, or simply grew them different, but not flushing again DOES NOT increase yields or even decrease yields, all you're doing is washing the roots with PH'D water for any salty build up. "Draining their pipes" -if you would
Much love brother.
Again opinion lol try it once n I have Ben growing quiet a bit to kno high grade stuff good trykes but Again my opinionThis tells us nothing. BUT, you wont have quad A material if you didnt flush and used nutes throught the grow cycle. Just saying. No matter what, it will not taste or be as good as if u flushed.
Everyone learns new things everyday. All good brother.
Not flushing DOES NOT increase yields. That's laughable at best lol. (All in good fun hehe) You might have grown them in different medium then b4, or simply grew them different, but not flushing again,,,,lol,,,, DOES NOT increase yields or even decrease yields, all you're doing is washing the roots with PH'D water for any salty build up. "Draining their pipes" -if you would
Much love brother.
Agree I don’t grow for yield
Elmer Fud
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Thanks brother hey try it u will remember me
Elmer Fud
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I grow for equal yield and quality. Optimization is key in our business. One thing is for sure brother. We love cultivating
Exacty man wen im dealing with 60 clones goin into flower w e cuts time it’s a big plus we all kno lol
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