180W Super Lemon Haze Grow - Lots of Pics!

I think the biggest problem with the two (hgl and ghl) is actual watts. It simply wouldnt be fair to put to a 300w ghl panel that draws 360w I believe against a hgl 345w panel that actually draws 290w, unless the end results are solely based off gpw. I believe a much fairer test would be ghl's 300 spectra that draws about 360w against 2 of hgl's 205w panels that draws 180w each for a total of 360w against 360w. That's the closest watt vs watt that could happen.

I actually agree. So Mike since you are a honest dude and what not, why don't you change you website so your lights actually reflect their true power consumption on your website? I know it says it in small abbreviated font but why not actually advertise it that way? I mean the customer will only assume your getting more bang for the buck and there wouldn't be any more confusion because I see a lot of people ask that question in different threads. I see cameron say all over that place you pay X amount of $$ per watt when in actuality she is calculating those numbers off a power measurement her lights do not even consume.

But I agree wize, if the test is ever performed the numbers have to be evaluated from gpw and everything must be controlled and the same. Meaning one light against one light, same amount of plants, same strains, same nutes, ext......Two 345s would be unfair because they will have a much larger foot print. Just do the grow and calculate the gpw, that will tell everything we are all dieing to see.

Irish I get what your saying when you say gpw between two different grows and growers is a bogus. It makes sense because so much can and usually is different but when one grower does everything exactly the same on both sides then GPW is the only way to tell who the true winner is.

Not grower A beat grower B because A had co2 and hydro while B had soil and no pH meter. I completely get that. GPW is not a comparable tool in that aspect.

I mean consider this: In order for HGL to achieve a 740w grow you would have to use four of the 205s. The foot print would be pretty damn large (25sq ft if I did the math correctly) but something in my gut tells me you would not fill that with only 4 plants and expect 19oz......not to mention it would cost you $400 more to buy.
 
I mean consider this: In order for HGL to achieve a 740w grow you would have to use four of the 205s. The foot print would be pretty damn large (25sq ft if I did the math correctly) but something in my gut tells me you would not fill that with only 4 plants and expect 19oz......not to mention it would cost you $400 more to buy.

That'd be pretty sweet a 205w over each plant, why wouldnt you do it? And your right thought not to expect 19 oz. I know you hate doin this Irish, but if you took your gpw from your 126w grow at 116w actual watts drawn by the 89g you produced you get .77gpw vs the 547g at 749w actual draw which equates to .73gpw. So you do the math there and you would have gotten 576g with the same ratio, but you dont like doin the gpw like most other growers and I see certain points to that arguement, but see a far bigger case for the gpw measurement.

To me the best cheapest route for these two to square off would to be to take the 120 spectra from ghl and the 205w hgl and go heads up.

the 120 spectra draws according to ghl's website 180w, and according the hgl's website their 205w panel draws 182w. I personally tested the panel and got readings from 179-185w. So there ya go, thats certainly the fairest comp between the two in my eyes. Single light source vs. single light source... Run 1 plant under each light and see who the victor is!

Mike I know you asked how much I'd pay for a 180 spectra but I want a 120 spectra to run a watt for watt test with, lets talk...
 
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see what this Cammie person is all about.

I have been following all the LED grows on all the forums for some time now. At first, her claims seemed impressive and I nearly got on board. Yet something didnt quite feel "right".

Every time I asked an honest question or made a statement of opinion, she simply deleted it and called me a troll.

When someone simply disregards or even deletes anything that doesnt fit in with their agenda and then tries to sell you their own special version of the truth based on mis-statements and flat-out lies, isnt that called propoganda?

I think Irish summed it up nicely in his post. Hard evidence doesnt lie. BS resellers looking to make a quick buck do. It really is that simple.

Now when is this next test happening? I need more LED bud porn!
 
Hard evidence doesnt lie. BS resellers looking to make a quick buck do. It really is that simple.

Now when is this next test happening? I need more LED bud porn!

Couldnt agree more!! Number dont lie. End o story.

Mike, looking forward to seein that slh again, if its not cut and hung up by now, I know she looked real close to ready in the last pics and mighty tasty!
 
See this is cool we are having a nice discussion with no led war. i expected all hell to be broke lose.

wiz i like that 205vs126w thing but would think foot print would be an issue, since her light is 20"x20" and mikes it 13"x8" i believe? not too sure on that one. but the wattage sound ideal. thats a tuff one? it really is hard to match up these 2 company's since their light watts are so off, and you idea might be the closest to far. either way i would love to see these 2 go heads up but would prefer to see an HPS in the mix also. that way we could use it as a guide line.
 
I like to dream.........
Imagine this, Tent 1 cfl, Tent 2 hps, Tent 3 Led (hgl), Tent 4 Led (glh), Tent 5 T5HO

Same grower, same strain, same growing medium soil or hydro who cares, same nute shedules, same temps, and the grower is allowed to tweak each grow as much as they like with lst ect for max yeild. 4 Plants per tent smallest is culled at week 4. Just imagine what SS did but with 3 more tents. OMG....... Im fairly sure my missus would be asking for a devorce because i wouldnt be able to stop looking at the computer..........

The ultimate light showdown.......... with a final GPW per tent.

I know that i would happily donate money to help float an experiment like this and im sure plenty of others would too.

Like i said isnt it nice to dream!
 
I like to dream.........
Imagine this, Tent 1 cfl, Tent 2 hps, Tent 3 Led (hgl), Tent 4 Led (glh), Tent 5 T5HO

Same grower, same strain, same growing medium soil or hydro who cares, same nute shedules, same temps, and the grower is allowed to tweak each grow as much as they like with lst ect for max yeild. 4 Plants per tent smallest is culled at week 4. Just imagine what SS did but with 3 more tents. OMG....... Im fairly sure my missus would be asking for a devorce because i wouldnt be able to stop looking at the computer..........

The ultimate light showdown.......... with a final GPW per tent.

I know that i would happily donate money to help float an experiment like this and im sure plenty of others would too.

Like i said isnt it nice to dream!


Hell yeah, I'm down!!!

only one thing, who's gonna donate a new wife?

;)
 
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