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5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud growth?
ChronicAffair
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Re: 5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud grow
I see CalMag deficiency. Not iron. It doesn't happen like that. Probably overwatering also. But that's just my opinion
I see CalMag deficiency. Not iron. It doesn't happen like that. Probably overwatering also. But that's just my opinion
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Re: 5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud grow
I appreciate it. is calmag best watered in or top dressed?
I appreciate it. is calmag best watered in or top dressed?
ChronicAffair
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Re: 5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud grow
Why would only iron be locked out at 6.5? You've been fed some bad info. If that was true, dont you think every nutrient company would be pushing iron supplements? Go the CalMag route and you won't be sorry.
Why would only iron be locked out at 6.5? You've been fed some bad info. If that was true, dont you think every nutrient company would be pushing iron supplements? Go the CalMag route and you won't be sorry.
Re: 5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud grow
Calmag is an iron supplement.
At least the one I use is. (Botanicare)
6.5 is around the lockout point for iron in hydro.
Calmag is an iron supplement.
At least the one I use is. (Botanicare)
6.5 is around the lockout point for iron in hydro.
ChronicAffair
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Re: 5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud grow
Watered in. Top dressing is great for organic or outdoor. Needs time to breakdown and do its thing. Keep it simple.
Watered in. Top dressing is great for organic or outdoor. Needs time to breakdown and do its thing. Keep it simple.
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Re: 5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud grow
wouldn't a calmag deficiency show up all over thre plant and with spotting? mine is just new growth with no spotting.
got my information thiso mans article.
MaximumYield Contributors - Harley Smith
this article
Why Are My Leaves Turning Yellow?
wouldn't a calmag deficiency show up all over thre plant and with spotting? mine is just new growth with no spotting.
got my information thiso mans article.
MaximumYield Contributors - Harley Smith
this article
Why Are My Leaves Turning Yellow?
ChronicAffair
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Re: 5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud grow
Calcium and magnesium salt supplements. Your plant uses magnesium the most. CalMag all the way through til week 6, then Mag Sulfur the last weeks before flush.
He's using soil, 6.5 is still in safe pH range. I don't believe in the lockout of iron to make such a drastic deficiency
Calcium and magnesium salt supplements. Your plant uses magnesium the most. CalMag all the way through til week 6, then Mag Sulfur the last weeks before flush.
He's using soil, 6.5 is still in safe pH range. I don't believe in the lockout of iron to make such a drastic deficiency
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Re: 5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud grow
Iron deficiency causes very obvious yellowing in the new growth - almost white when its severe enough.
Iron deficiency causes very obvious yellowing in the new growth - almost white when its severe enough.
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Re: 5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud grow
which I do see on the newest of leaves.
which I do see on the newest of leaves.
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Re: 5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud grow
I said it was pretty minor. Hard to tell from the photos but i was taking his word for it when he said he has yellowing on the new growth. Something I'm pretty familiar with- from the causes we discussed. No one has been offering me 'bad advice'. It's my direct observations - and well known science.
But I'll let you take over this thread ChronicAffair, since I've more or less offered my advice and you're so fucking pushy about this. Unsubbed.
I said it was pretty minor. Hard to tell from the photos but i was taking his word for it when he said he has yellowing on the new growth. Something I'm pretty familiar with- from the causes we discussed. No one has been offering me 'bad advice'. It's my direct observations - and well known science.
But I'll let you take over this thread ChronicAffair, since I've more or less offered my advice and you're so fucking pushy about this. Unsubbed.
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ChronicAffair
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Re: 5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud grow
Whoa. Sorry bro. No need to swear. I'm not being pushy. I've just been doing this a long time. I've always found that you start with the easiest solutions and usually the others work it self out. My bad weasel.
Whoa. Sorry bro. No need to swear. I'm not being pushy. I've just been doing this a long time. I've always found that you start with the easiest solutions and usually the others work it self out. My bad weasel.
Re: 5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud grow
Thanks mate. No worries. Wouldn't be the first time there was miscommunication on the forum.
For me this (iron def/ph) looks like the simplest solution- just because I've had this experience several times. So hence the advice in that direction. I could be wrong- and that's totally ok with me. He will have to take both our inputs and figure it out himself in the end.
Thanks mate. No worries. Wouldn't be the first time there was miscommunication on the forum.
For me this (iron def/ph) looks like the simplest solution- just because I've had this experience several times. So hence the advice in that direction. I could be wrong- and that's totally ok with me. He will have to take both our inputs and figure it out himself in the end.
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Re: 5 days into flowering & an iron deficiency - What effect does it have on bud grow
Lol. Thread gone wrong.
CA has a point- though he may be wrong about the effects of iron def, and the use of calmag as an iron supplement.
The advice I gave is true as it pertains to how I grow.
But this is the sticking point.
I'm coming from the perspective of a soilless grower. Soilless (peat moss, perlite, coco, rockwool,etc) is an inert medium which exists to hold roots, provide aeration, and temporarily hold whatever nutes and water you add to it. It's a form of hydro- needs constant ph monitoring and added nutes and micro- nutrients (like calcium, magnesium, iron)
Soil (contains compost, worm castings, lots of minerals, clay, sand, etc) is quite a different thing with a different approach. It needs much less ph control, uses the soil ph range, and in general should need less constant life support from the grower. I'm not a soil grower but usually you shouldn't need to add calmag to any decent soil mix.
Your first post was talking about hydro. I didn't see anything about you being a soil grower so must have missed it. Keep all this is mind. What I said, and also the info in your first, is true to hydro/soilless growing.
An iron deficiency is an iron deficiency- but, if you have one , the approach to fixing it would usually be a little different between soil and soilless.
Lol. Thread gone wrong.
CA has a point- though he may be wrong about the effects of iron def, and the use of calmag as an iron supplement.
The advice I gave is true as it pertains to how I grow.
But this is the sticking point.
I'm coming from the perspective of a soilless grower. Soilless (peat moss, perlite, coco, rockwool,etc) is an inert medium which exists to hold roots, provide aeration, and temporarily hold whatever nutes and water you add to it. It's a form of hydro- needs constant ph monitoring and added nutes and micro- nutrients (like calcium, magnesium, iron)
Soil (contains compost, worm castings, lots of minerals, clay, sand, etc) is quite a different thing with a different approach. It needs much less ph control, uses the soil ph range, and in general should need less constant life support from the grower. I'm not a soil grower but usually you shouldn't need to add calmag to any decent soil mix.
Your first post was talking about hydro. I didn't see anything about you being a soil grower so must have missed it. Keep all this is mind. What I said, and also the info in your first, is true to hydro/soilless growing.
An iron deficiency is an iron deficiency- but, if you have one , the approach to fixing it would usually be a little different between soil and soilless.
