Buds looking strange at Day 62 of Bloom
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What do you see that you think is making the buds look strange?
The first 3 photos have that yellow color from the grow lights but they do look like they could be ready. Most of the stigma/pistils have turned orange-brown and wrinkled up. When the plant is 9 weeks into flowering and only a few new stigma growing it is often a sign that the harvest window is open.
I get the feeling that the second set was with the lights off and the camera flash gave them that moon glow. Harder to tell with those pictures but still look like it can be harvest time.
Based on the photos I would be seriously thinking of cutting, trimming and drying if they were mine.
The first 3 photos have that yellow color from the grow lights but they do look like they could be ready. Most of the stigma/pistils have turned orange-brown and wrinkled up. When the plant is 9 weeks into flowering and only a few new stigma growing it is often a sign that the harvest window is open.
I get the feeling that the second set was with the lights off and the camera flash gave them that moon glow. Harder to tell with those pictures but still look like it can be harvest time.
Based on the photos I would be seriously thinking of cutting, trimming and drying if they were mine.
Great gardenThis is Super Lemon Haze at Day 63.. What you think?
Welcome to 420Magazine my friend.What seems to be the issue?
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Bill284
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Issue maybe the Buds looking smallGreat garden
What seems to be the issue?
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They still have time to finish swelling.Issue maybe the Buds looking small
I would keep feeding keep the temp and rh in line and let them finish.
You did a great job so far, don't rush your harvest.
You will be rewarded.
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Bill284
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Feeding them? I cut the feedingThey still have time to finish swelling.
I would keep feeding keep the temp and rh in line and let them finish.
You did a great job so far, don't rush your harvest.
You will be rewarded.
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Bill284
Fenderbender
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I think a lot here on the forum are subscribed to feed till end as not feeding only gets you starved buds.
You do have a height issue where you're always forced to be pretty close to the lights since the tent is not tall.
And too close to light can negatively impact bud formation, or burn or foxtail them.
It does look a bit like 90's Super Lemon Haze though as those were usually pretty slender buds in the shops.
Maybe you also want to shape the plant to fewer tops, create fewer but thick branches, the bigger your supply pipes are and the more evenly it's distributed the bigger the buds that are there will be.
You do have a height issue where you're always forced to be pretty close to the lights since the tent is not tall.
And too close to light can negatively impact bud formation, or burn or foxtail them.
It does look a bit like 90's Super Lemon Haze though as those were usually pretty slender buds in the shops.
Maybe you also want to shape the plant to fewer tops, create fewer but thick branches, the bigger your supply pipes are and the more evenly it's distributed the bigger the buds that are there will be.
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Here you can see a bigger picture
Someone sayd the Lemon Haze looks like she is seeded
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Although, i still cant make that assessment firsthand , it does seem like its seeded. It looks like a plant that moved from full flowering to just concentrating on seeds ( hence the smaller growth of buds) Many factors can cause this - Hermaphroditism / weak genetics / actual pollination / environmental issues and even grower goof ups.
Most likely a strain or unrefined strain with this tendency… you will harvest less consumable weed in the long run.
You will have to scrutinize all flowers at end of grow
Buds looking like pice of shit! I think the cheap genetics from Linda seeds are the reason 1-4€ per Seed the other Strains looking good but also not the best of the best. I think i will throw there Genetics away and Buy better genetics.
Someone sayd the Lemon Haze looks like she is seeded
QUOTE:
Although, i still cant make that assessment firsthand , it does seem like its seeded. It looks like a plant that moved from full flowering to just concentrating on seeds ( hence the smaller growth of buds) Many factors can cause this - Hermaphroditism / weak genetics / actual pollination / environmental issues and even grower goof ups.
Most likely a strain or unrefined strain with this tendency… you will harvest less consumable weed in the long run.
You will have to scrutinize all flowers at end of grow
Buds looking like pice of shit! I think the cheap genetics from Linda seeds are the reason 1-4€ per Seed the other Strains looking good but also not the best of the best. I think i will throw there Genetics away and Buy better genetics.
If you squeeze a calyx you can tell if it has a seed inside or not.Here you can see a bigger picture
Someone sayd the Lemon Haze looks like she is seeded
QUOTE:
Although, i still cant make that assessment firsthand , it does seem like its seeded. It looks like a plant that moved from full flowering to just concentrating on seeds ( hence the smaller growth of buds) Many factors can cause this - Hermaphroditism / weak genetics / actual pollination / environmental issues and even grower goof ups.
Most likely a strain or unrefined strain with this tendency… you will harvest less consumable weed in the long run.
You will have to scrutinize all flowers at end of grow
Buds looking like pice of shit! I think the cheap genetics from Linda seeds are the reason 1-4€ per Seed the other Strains looking good but also not the best of the best. I think i will throw there Genetics away and Buy better genetics.
Do you see nanners or something to cause seeds.
I see beautiful buds.
If you are concerned about the buds being smaller than you would like, light energy plays a big roll in that.
Pardon if you said already, what are you running for lights?
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Bill284
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If you squeeze a calyx you can tell if it has a seed inside or not.
Do you see nanners or something to cause seeds.
I see beautiful buds.
If you are concerned about the buds being smaller than you would like, light energy plays a big roll in that.
Pardon if you said already, what are you running for lights?
Stay safe
Bill284
COB leds 3070 4 x 55w total wattage 220
You have done a great job with them.
More watts will give you more grams per sqft in your room.
Excellent work my friend.
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Bill284
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You have done a great job with them.
More watts will give you more grams per sqft in your room.
Excellent work my friend.
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Bill284
I thought more wattage is not nessesary in my 80x80x160cm room
That room is 2.5 feet x 2.5 feet and only 5 feet high?
General rule of thumb is 25 w/sp ft.
So that's about 150 for a closet that size, you could be right.
But it looks huge with those plants.
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Bill284
General rule of thumb is 25 w/sp ft.
So that's about 150 for a closet that size, you could be right.
But it looks huge with those plants.
Stay safe
Bill284
RhastaBlasta
420 Member
that looks like a whole plantation! nice budsThis is Super Lemon Haze at Day 63.. What you think?
I was figuring that the plants are photo period since no mention made of them being auto-flower. 63 days being 9 weeks puts them in the range for those who like a 'buzz' rather than the couch-lock they get when the flowering stage goes as long as 10 to 12 weeks or longer.
Thing is that some plants and even strains will produce buds just like you have on your plants instead of the thicker or chunky ones.
And some plants will continue to send out new stigma/pistils or even doing some foxtailing for weeks after the grower thinks the buds are in the final days of ripening.
Maybe throw out the question on watts per square foot or per square meter up in the "Grow Lighting" forum and find out what the latest thoughts on the best lighting wattage to use.
Thing is that some plants and even strains will produce buds just like you have on your plants instead of the thicker or chunky ones.
And some plants will continue to send out new stigma/pistils or even doing some foxtailing for weeks after the grower thinks the buds are in the final days of ripening.
Usually that is enough. Over the years I have seen 35 watts per square foot thrown out there as being a good light level. Your tent has a footprint of just over 6 square feet so it falls into place. But a bit more watts per square foot is better.
Maybe throw out the question on watts per square foot or per square meter up in the "Grow Lighting" forum and find out what the latest thoughts on the best lighting wattage to use.
Fenderbender
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Yeah Fietchen is making that tent look big as he's good at filling it with buds.
But I do think therein lies the problem as well.
Not sure more light is going to solve it in the current setup.
I think it's a shaping issues, he's trying to do too much.. it's setup as 4 40x40cm's areas but that's not a big area per plant And he's creating a bazillion tops each on just that area, I somehow can't expect those all to grow into big fat colas. They need more space for that.
A lot of the growspurt is the plant shading itself and reaching for light a lot of that can be negated by scrogging and cropping the heck out of each top and give it enough space and light from all sides that way they stay put and grow wide and stack instead of reach reach reach for light.
So you really want to aim a very flat and even and undeep canopy and a bit less buds but more space per bud so they can grow bigger and thicker.
The way Fietchen tops just one plant could fill the entire tent which would probably result in a lot fatter colas if he'd space them out nicely.
What also might help is buy some Barney's Farm seeds if you're not happy bout what you bought, have you tried those before? I've grown a couple of those last year and was very impressed with the bud size of the strains I tried, autos & femis all showed amazing growth and colas rather effortlessly.. and I think Stinker grows nothing else and he's got a tent full of picture perfect buds each time.
And since you don't have the height buy strains that like to remain stout and stocky.
But I do think therein lies the problem as well.
Not sure more light is going to solve it in the current setup.
I think it's a shaping issues, he's trying to do too much.. it's setup as 4 40x40cm's areas but that's not a big area per plant And he's creating a bazillion tops each on just that area, I somehow can't expect those all to grow into big fat colas. They need more space for that.
A lot of the growspurt is the plant shading itself and reaching for light a lot of that can be negated by scrogging and cropping the heck out of each top and give it enough space and light from all sides that way they stay put and grow wide and stack instead of reach reach reach for light.
So you really want to aim a very flat and even and undeep canopy and a bit less buds but more space per bud so they can grow bigger and thicker.
The way Fietchen tops just one plant could fill the entire tent which would probably result in a lot fatter colas if he'd space them out nicely.
What also might help is buy some Barney's Farm seeds if you're not happy bout what you bought, have you tried those before? I've grown a couple of those last year and was very impressed with the bud size of the strains I tried, autos & femis all showed amazing growth and colas rather effortlessly.. and I think Stinker grows nothing else and he's got a tent full of picture perfect buds each time.
And since you don't have the height buy strains that like to remain stout and stocky.
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Nice Buds? Yeah it's OK wish bigger ones and the Lomon Haze Buds looking strange
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Great info my friend yeah i do to much work ending with to much bud sites and that's the issue next time i do way less
never grow barney but i have a prone seed from them Glookeys sound good next Plants are in the making but next time 4 Auto's and all diffrent Strains from diffrent breeders.In the future, I’d shoot for 35-40 watts per sq./ft. Remember you can always dim it down, but if you don’t have it, you can’t use it!
Coneal49
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What kind of lights are you using in photo 7??? I want a few of them. Gorgeous looking ladies wow fantastic pictures and very beautiful girls.Here you can see a bigger picture
Someone sayd the Lemon Haze looks like she is seeded
QUOTE:
Although, i still cant make that assessment firsthand , it does seem like its seeded. It looks like a plant that moved from full flowering to just concentrating on seeds ( hence the smaller growth of buds) Many factors can cause this - Hermaphroditism / weak genetics / actual pollination / environmental issues and even grower goof ups.
Most likely a strain or unrefined strain with this tendency… you will harvest less consumable weed in the long run.
You will have to scrutinize all flowers at end of grow
Buds looking like pice of shit! I think the cheap genetics from Linda seeds are the reason 1-4€ per Seed the other Strains looking good but also not the best of the best. I think i will throw there Genetics away and Buy better genetics.
