First time grow

[tommy1892]

I would be more inclined to go with the more expensive stuff for a few reasons, often ify about the quality of things like that coming outta China lol but the other stuff is also 90% purity which works with the concentrations I gave.

Can you order from amazon from other countries there in the UK, I am in Canada and GA3 was a lot cheaper here, that 90% stuff at 25£ for 5g is about 2x the price for half the quantity I bought here.

Or see if these guys will ship to you, they are the ones I use and it definitely works, I have used twice in the past 6 months for selfing plants and producing seed, bought it nearly 3 years ago.

Power Grown

Thanks boss

 

[tommy1892]

Do you think the two seeds which have not germinated can be put straight into my medium.

As due to the pandemic delivery services in the UK are weeks away and by that time my worried my sees will be completely dead and then I will have to dispose them. Let me know what you think

 

[The Celt]

I would wait until they have been in the damp towel 14 days, if no sign of cracking by then, they aren’t likely to crack without the help of GA3. After 14 days of no sign of germination, put them some where dry and in the dark and retry them when you can get some GA3.

If you put them into a medium and they don’t germinate, they are not easy to find lol

 

[CanadianJim]

Some seeds just take longer. I have two hybrids here, courtesy of my neighbour's male. One pops up in two days, the other takes at least 5.
With a couple of stubborn seeds I have used pliers to pop the shell, but that was 12 days in with no germination. You have to be really careful doing that so you don't smoosh the entire thing.
I'm with @The Celt on waiting at least 14 days before giving up on them, and on drying them back out (except the one you cracked) and trying again later. In the wild seeds often go through a few wet/dry cycles before germination, so it is possible for them to survive.

P.S. I accidentally stepped on a seed transferring it to a paper towel back when I still used them, it still germinated. These plants are tough.

 

[The Celt]

Well said @CanadianJim

 

[tommy1892]

Hey guys thanks for your replies.

just a update and some help needed. One of the germinated seeds from a different strain is in a propagation traywith 2 leaves showing as seen in pic is it now time to move to a bigger pot.

also I’ve had three seeds trying to germinate two seeds which have been trying to germinate for 10 days no sign of nothing I got impatient as said previously and cracked it so no improvement on them. But I put another exodus cheese seed to germinate by slightly sanding down shell and 24 hr in water the paper towel method. They have been in paper towel since Saturday it’s been 4 whole days I can see the seed cracked and taproot coming out maybe 0.3 cm but it seems like it hasn’t been growing last 24 hrs my worry is it’s dead. If it doesn’t grown any more next 24 hrs is it worth me trying to put in soil?
These exodus seeds more then 6 years old from the seed Co in Amsterdam, I’ve tried to germinate 3, two of the seeds I defo think are done. One of them with a small tap root and seems it don’t want to grow any more so worried as I really wanted to grow this strain but finding it so hard to germinate these old seeds.

Doing my head in!! Patience is the key I know lol...

 

[The Celt]

If the taproot is still white, it’s good. Put it in some light mix of soil or coco and let it go. It should come up but is likely to be slow

 

[tommy1892]

Ok will do that today and get it under the lights and medium.

in regards to my last pic you can see the two leaves have appeared is this ready to put in a bigger pot now.
Also with the new seed would you advise to put in propagation tray or straight into the big pot?
Thanks again The Celt you been a superstar to the start of
My journey I apologise in advance for any silly questions. Thank you

 

[The Celt]

I generally go into solo cups first for a week or 2 and then into their final pots, 7 and 14 gallon depending on what/where I intent to put them

 

[tommy1892]

If after 10 days, @tommy1892, then I would suggest washing the seed off with some peroxide, scarifying the seed and re-soak the seed in a glass of room temperature water.

Old seed can be hard to sprout, but it is OK to leave it in the glass of water for more than 24hrs. Generally speaking, seeds don’t need access to air until they “crack” (split along one side and start showing white. At this point, you can either put it in damp paper towel, or right into moist peat to finish germination.

There are some other tricks as well but require some preparation ahead of time. If you have issues and it won’t sprout, reach out, all may not be lost.

Im

I generally go into solo cups first for a week or 2 and then into their final pots, 7 and 14 gallon depending on what/where I intent to put them

Hi Celt hope your well bro,

I can see one of the seedlings roots coming out the propagation tray through the holes im scared that I might have effected its growth.

Is it now ready to put in my next or final pot?

I have a 15l biodegradable fabric pot - do I need to fill the whole pot with medium to 15l or can I fill up to 10l/11l?

What is the difference in growing in size of pot plants I take it mainly the plants size of growth.

 

[The Celt]

For most plants, the bigger the root mass, the bigger the plant will be, this especially holds true for Cannabis as it is an extremely fast growing plant.

Cannabis gets most of its nutrients from the top 12 to 18” of soil, this is where the majority of feeder roots are, roots going deeper are after water and trace elements that may not be in that 1st layer of soil. This is why my DIY fabric pots are 8” tall x 14” square for the 7 gallon and 12” x 15” for the 11 gallon pots. I want the bigger root mass without sacrificing head space.

If you look at the ”trees” they grow in the Mendocino Valley, they are in 150 gallon or bigger grow bags that are only about 16” tall yet 4 to 6 feet or more round.

If you have roots showing out the bottom of you propagation tray, it’s time to up pot them. As for filling the pot, 15 gallons will grow more plant mass then 10 gallons, but it’s not required to fill the pot, that’s personal choice.

Post some pics for us mate

 

[tommy1892]

For most plants, the bigger the root mass, the bigger the plant will be, this especially holds true for Cannabis as it is an extremely fast growing plant.

Cannabis gets most of its nutrients from the top 12 to 18” of soil, this is where the majority of feeder roots are, roots going deeper are after water and trace elements that may not be in that 1st layer of soil. This is why my DIY fabric pots are 8” tall x 14” square for the 7 gallon and 12” x 15” for the 11 gallon pots. I want the bigger root mass without sacrificing head space.

If you look at the ”trees” they grow in the Mendocino Valley, they are in 150 gallon or bigger grow bags that are only about 16” tall yet 4 to 6 feet or more round.

If you have roots showing out the bottom of you propagation tray, it’s time to up pot them. As for filling the pot, 15 gallons will grow more plant mass then 10 gallons, but it’s not required to fill the pot, that’s personal choice.

Post some pics for us mate

Hi mate thanks again. I’ve attached some pics do you think the root has been damaged in the tray. Also do I need to adjust my height of my led light?

 

[The Celt]

Roots will be fine but I would move those little ones into solo cups for a couple weeks if you can, they are soon going to need more room to get their legs under them

 

[tommy1892]

Roots will be fine but I would move those little ones into solo cups for a couple weeks if you can, they are soon going to need more room to get their legs under them

I can put into my final pot instead of solo cups?

also level of led light do I need to move it?

 

[The Celt]

You can yes, but be prepared for slow above ground growth, she will focus on expanding her root system for a bit and show little topside growth, this is normal.

As you are using burple lights with a lot of red, keep them about the distance you have them, to high and your seedlings will stretch

 

[tommy1892]

Hi Celt hope your well and safe mate & everyone who reading this.

So it’s been 16 days since I planted my germinated seed. I’ve attached some pics what it looks like currently. It’s-reaching good humidity74% temp 26-28 but what I’m intrigued and need to understand when do I need to put a fan in my grow tent?

When do I need to turn my carbon filters and twin fans on?

Currently I’m using wet towels to build humidity with a radiator is this a good idea wet towels or should I invest in a humidifier?

When do I need to use a dehumidifier? at this stage my temp and humidity-seems fine plz correct me if I’m wrong.

One of my seedlings seem to have a burn mark under the lights but when I look under normal light doesn’t seem burnt but maybe some damage on the leaf has occurred. Also the stems seems extremely long I don’t think I biting the seedling in to bigger pot deep enough is it safe to just top some medium up?

thank you once again

 

[The Celt]

If you find your seedling stretching too much, you can put more soil in the pot as she stretches.

In all honesty, once they are a week or 2 old, and the temperatures you are running, rh @ 50 +/- 10 is fine. My girls are in that rh range from start to finish. As for fans and filters, they will soon need some air flow to help strengthen their stems and keep a good supply of ambient CO2.

I don’t use filters, no worry about smell here, but if you are going to use them, soon as you can smell something different in another room would be a good time to start lol

I would be a poor judge of when, as I love coming home to the smell of growing cannabis lol

 

[Backlipslide]

do I need to put a fan in my grow tent?

Yes, it helps prevent powdery mildew or mold. An oscillating fan is ideal but a stationary fan is ok as well, just make sure it’s not too close or it will cause wind burn and/or tear your leaves up.

When do I need to turn my carbon filters and twin fans on?

You necessarily don’t need it until flower. You can have it on now, but your plants don’t necessarily need it right now. I say I’m flower because you have a higher chance of getting mold or mildew then. As long as they have adequate air flow they should be fine for a while.

invest in a humidifier?

You don’t necessarily need one either. The plants will put off more of a humidity the older they get. You can also help by putting buckets of water in the tent and or hang a wet towel in the tent. I don’t worry about my RH too much. As long as your below 50 in flower your good.

When do I need to use a dehumidifier?

If you do, you’ll need it in flower. You may not need it as well, time will tell.

safe to just top some medium up?

Yes sir it is safe.

the stretch could mean the light is too high, but if it’s burning the plant then you may have problems. The light should be around 24” above canopy. If the plant is working towards the light, then it’s probably at a good height. If it’s working away from the light, then the light is too close.

 

[tommy1892]

Yes, it helps prevent powdery mildew or mold. An oscillating fan is ideal but a stationary fan is ok as well, just make sure it’s not too close or it will cause wind burn and/or tear your leaves up.



You necessarily don’t need it until flower. You can have it on now, but your plants don’t necessarily need it right now. I say I’m flower because you have a higher chance of getting mold or mildew then. As long as they have adequate air flow they should be fine for a while.



You don’t necessarily need one either. The plants will put off more of a humidity the older they get. You can also help by putting buckets of water in the tent and or hang a wet towel in the tent. I don’t worry about my RH too much. As long as your below 50 in flower your good.



If you do, you’ll need it in flower. You may not need it as well, time will tell.



Yes sir it is safe.

the stretch could mean the light is too high, but if it’s burning the plant then you may have problems. The light should be around 24” above canopy. If the plant is working towards the light, then it’s probably at a good height. If it’s working away from the light, then the light is too close.

Thank you so much for that I really appreciate it.
These seedlings are only 16 days old since going into my medium I take it nutrients is out of the question?
Also under the led one of the plants leaf looked marked like burnt but when I look in normal light don’t seem discoloured just seem like a little damage but I thank you boss
My also worry is that the two plants which germinated straight away were bag seeds and I just hope they not male was a really good fruity strain I juts hope females they defo growing good speed I think.
also I have my grow tent empty at 27 degrees and room humid at 72% as I been told when at seedling and veg stage more room humid is needed.

one or other seeds fromgreen seeds company exodus cheese are older then 6 years 3 seeda not one germinated. Put in soil over a week ago afternot germinating still nothing. Soaked another seed over 24 hrs and put it in a jiffy pellet and it’s been 4 days so far nothing but will expect somethin hopefully next 7 days they are in same grow tent as my other two plants.

 

[Backlipslide]

nutrients is out of the question?

For now yes... day 20-24 you could probably start introducing small amounts of nutrients.

one of the plants leaf looked marked like burnt

Did you leave any water droplets on the leaves?
Leaving water droplets on your plant can work as a magnifying glass and leave burn spots on the leafs. Making ya new grower wonder, wtf is going on? My guess is that’s all it was.

now you can foliar feed your plants by spraying a fine mist on your plants. It’s a great way to reverse deficiency’s. But, normal spray bottles won’t work. You’ll need a special sprayer for that. It shoots a super fine mist and doesn’t harm the plants any. Again, you won’t need this sprayer unless you want to.

as I been told when at seedling and veg stage more room humid is needed.

Yes, when they’re young the optimal RH is 60-70
For flower optimal is 40-50

you can use humidity domes for when they’re really young/cuttings. But after a while they won’t need the dome anymore and just live off the RH at what ever it is.

my plants are somewhat young still, and I only ever really have them under 40-50% RH. 30 when they’re getting really dry. You should be fine... if anything get it down from what it’s at.

one or other seeds fromgreen seeds company exodus cheese are older then 6 years 3 seeda not one germinated. Put in soil over a week ago afternot germinating still nothing. Soaked another seed over 24 hrs and put it in a jiffy pellet and it’s been 4 days so far nothing but will expect somethin hopefully next 7 days they are in same grow tent as my other two plants.

Some seeds are duds. Just nothing you can do about that. Have you dug down to find the seed to see what it’s doing?

the bagseeds will be fine. You have a long time before you have to worry about pollinating other plants. If it is male, it’s unfortunate but it’s all part of the game. I took care of two plants for two months before finding out they were males and I killed them instantly. It’s all part of the game though! That’s where female seeds are where it’s at... takes the guessing game out of it.

they were grown under a T5 till I put them into flower and killed them. It’s ironic I gave them male names.