Los Angeles County D.A. Prepares To Crack Down On Pot Outlets

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Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley said Thursday he will prosecute medical marijuana dispensaries for over-the-counter sales, targeting a practice that has become commonplace under an initiative approved by California voters more than a decade ago.

"The vast, vast, vast majority, about 100%, of dispensaries in Los Angeles County and the city are operating illegally, they are dealing marijuana illegally, according to our theory," he said. "The time is right to deal with this problem."

Cooley and Los Angeles City Atty. Carmen Trutanich recently concluded that state law bars sales of medical marijuana, an opinion that could spark a renewed effort by law enforcement across the state to rein in the use of marijuana. It comes as polls show a majority of state voters back legalization of marijuana, and supporters are working to place the issue on the ballot next year.

The district attorney's office is investigating about a dozen dispensaries, following police raids, and is considering filing felony charges against one that straddles the Los Angeles-Culver City line.

"We have our strategy and we think we are on good legal ground," Cooley said.

Medical marijuana advocates say the prosecutors are misinterpreting the law.

"I'm confident that they are not right," said Joe Elford, chief counsel for Americans for Safe Access. "If they are right, it would mean that thousands of seriously ill Californians for whom the Compassionate Use Act was intended to help would not be able to get the medicine that they need."

Law enforcement officials have been frustrated by the explosion in the number of dispensaries in Southern California, arguing that most are for-profit enterprises that violate the 1996 voter initiative legalizing medical marijuana and the 2003 state law permitting collective cultivation. Cooley's announcement, coming at a news conference that followed a training session he and Trutanich conducted for narcotics officers, dramatically raises the stakes.

In the city of Los Angeles, some estimates put the number of dispensaries as high as 800. The city allowed 186 to remain open under its 2007 moratorium, but hundreds of others opened in violation of the ban while the city did nothing to shut them down.

In August, Cooley and Sheriff Lee Baca sent a letter to all mayors and police chiefs in the county, saying that they believed over-the-counter sales were illegal and encouraging cities to adopt permanent bans on dispensaries.

Mark Kleiman, a professor of public policy at UCLA and an expert on drug policy, was not surprised that local prosecutors had decided to attack the rapid proliferation of marijuana stores.

"I think it's a natural response to the rather flagrant marketing practices of a bunch of the dispensaries. The medical veneer has been wearing thinner and thinner," he said. "I've always wondered why those things were legal when they didn't look legal to me."

Cooley said he believes that under state law, collectives must raise their own marijuana and can only recoup their costs. "That's absolutely legal," he said. "We're going to respect that."

But he said none of them currently do that.

The district attorney's warning could make the situation more chaotic in Los Angeles, where the City Council has struggled for two years to devise an ordinance to control the distribution of medical marijuana.

In addition to prosecuting dispensaries, Cooley said he would consider going after doctors who write medical marijuana recommendations for healthy people. Medical marijuana critics argue that some doctors freely recommend the drug to people who are not ill.

Medical marijuana advocates celebrated a brief thaw in the enforcement climate after the Obama administration signaled earlier this year that it would not prosecute collectives that followed state law. That spurred many entrepreneurs to open dispensaries in Los Angeles. As stores popped up near schools and parks, neighborhood activists reacted with outrage and police took notice.

Councilman Dennis Zine, a key player on the issue at L.A. City Hall, welcomed Cooley's decision to prosecute dispensaries. "There are many that are operating illegally and it's not a secret," he said, adding that he believes "a few" collectives in the city are operating legally.

Anticipating that police departments will ramp up raids on dispensaries, medical marijuana advocates reacted with dismay to Cooley's announcement.

"What we'll see is a big disruption," said Don Duncan, the California director for Americans for Safe Access. He called Cooley's decision "incredible" and said, "It certainly sounds scary."

Duncan acknowledged that many dispensaries do not follow the law and urged Cooley and Trutanich to focus exclusively on them. "You don't have to cast a net over the entire community, you can target the problem people and not take this extreme adversarial position," he said. "Some good people are going to be caught in the crossfire."

About 100 medical marijuana patients, activists and dispensary owners protested on a sidewalk outside the Montebello Country Club, where about 150 prosecutors and narcotics officers met. Motorists repeatedly honked and shook their fists in support as they rolled by, triggering cheers from the crowd.

Barry Kramer, the operator of California Patients Alliance, a collective on Melrose Avenue, said many dispensaries have responsibly regulated themselves for years in the vacuum left by the City Council's inaction.

"I feel like that gets lost," he said. "It's frustrating to get painted with one brush by the city."

Kramer said he believed that dispensaries would continue to operate. "People have found ways around marijuana laws for as long as there have been marijuana laws," he said.

But he also said that stepped-up prosecutions could resuscitate the criminal market: "Things will go underground. We'll see a lot more crime."

When Californians voted for Proposition 215 in 1996, they made it legal for patients with a doctor's recommendation and their caregivers to possess and raise pot for the patient's medical use.

In 2003, the Legislature allowed patients and caregivers "collectively or cooperatively to cultivate marijuana for medical purposes" but said they could not do it for profit.

Cooley and Trutanich, after reviewing a state Supreme Court decision from last year, have concluded that the law protects collectives from prosecution only in the cultivation of marijuana, not for sales or distribution.

Medical marijuana advocates, however, note that the state currently requires dispensaries to collect sales taxes on marijuana, and that guidelines drawn up by the attorney general conclude that "a properly organized and operated collective or cooperative that dispenses medical marijuana through a storefront may be lawful."

The guidelines allow collectives to take costs into account but do not deal directly with over-the-counter sales.

Jacob Appelsmith, special assistant attorney general, said Atty. Gen. Jerry Brown talked to Cooley on Thursday. "Our staffs are continuing to meet about these issues," he said.



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I'm blown away. NorCal and SoCal are just 2 totally different worlds. The same happens here, but not to that magnitude. 800 dispensaries? The part that gets me is the limit is 186. That's hella dispensaries. I just think that it sucks that some of our own are on the side of law enforcement. They get paid to investigate and weed the good from the bad. Naturally some good people will be caught up, but if their shop's on the up and up the outcome shouldn't be nearly as bad as the ones running illegally. With that said, any1 interested iin or planning to open or run a dispensary should know u run a high risk of being robbed, until u become established law enforcement is gonna mess with you, laws do change (for the good and bad), u also run an unnecessary risk opening up next to a school or a church (not to say we're in the wrong in doing so. The public's perception of our "culture" is still misunderstood). When these things happen, why cry about it? It comes with the territory IMO. It just really sucks that some ASA member's are raising a stink. I feel if ur that concerned write the legislature, lobby, help draft and word proposals, vote, and help educate. Its not our job to help or do law enforcement's job. That's why part of our tax dollars pay their salary. That's like me going to the grocery store and ringing up and bagging everything myself with the checker standing in front of me. It's their job, let them do what they get paid to do. I wonder what Jack would say about how they're pushing this initiative in his name. 420 is this something he devised or drafted? Or is this the act of another entity using a name with noteworthy at a seemingly opportune time?
 
My question is this... then why don't the the drug companies have to obey the same when it comes to non-profit???

I also believe this is a bunch of crap and the only ones who win... are the criminals which are law enforcement, elected officials and the local corner drug dealer. All of them are one in the same... criminals!
 
i live in a time where idiots like me who know everything cant do crap cause of idiots like me.anyone out there.selfishness rules the universe so im confident im going to heaven.
 
What would happen if we decided that we as citizen could interpret the militia law to where it is okay for us to raise militia and go after these as*hole to defends our rights has Americans. It is what these so called humans are doing they are bending the law to suit their unlawful acts and our state Senators do nothing to protect us from this harassment. yet the city took taxes from these co-ops. I say you take one cent in taxes you cannot use military type tactics but have to use the court system like any other business to handle problems. For it does not seem like a war on drugs it truly seems to be a war on Americans and we should be using equal force to fight for our rights as Americans.
 
Quit paying taxes as much as you can. Thats about the only way to slow these thugs down. Buy as much stuff over the internet as possible and from out of state.
 
What would happen if we decided that we as citizen could interpret the militia law to where it is okay for us to raise militia and go after these as*hole to defends our rights has Americans......
we'd be considered domestic terrorists
there would be lots of dead Cannabis activists
it would shut the movement down and force us completely underground
they'd finally get to use those secret detention camps

if mass civil disobedience is used i say follow the example of Dr. King. if you want to sacrifice yourself for Cannabis Rights which is also a Human Rights issue then go lay down in front of the dispensary door when they are being raided or block the street. have mass smoke-ins. people would need to be willing to go to jail.

at this time i just dont see the numbers nessesary for any mass Cannabis movement when its difficult to find 50 people to show up at a Cannabis demonstration or sitting in a courtroom to show support for a defendant seems inconvienient to most Cannabis users. if most of us won't even bother to send a letter to our local government officals out of fear how can we expect those same fearful people to really put it on the line?
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Oh but we are starting to resist. Please do not think I believe in killing people. Remember I am marijuana user! I am saying that if we used their methods we would be terrorist like them. I believe that their is the beginnings of very big movement in American people. We have been step on long enough by interest that does not have the greatness of country in mind but selfness and greed of the soul. I would not be able to work or have life it was not for medical marijuana. So I am willing to put the effort on these boards just like the thousands that have before me... for these boards are the true start of a civil resistant to these thugs, bullies and our government. We should be asking why Do we let them get away with it.... yes during the week it is hard for people to attends these court rallies and DA meetings but on week-ends you can draw larger crowds. Everyone keep up the hard work in letting your feeling be known. We will win! as the democrats and republicans destroy themselves by showing how the needs of many are being silence when it comes to national debate on health care. If this nation does not get a national health care plan it only shows how greedy Americans politicians and maybe people are. We will throw them all out of office. Look at what the Germans did to Berlin Wall and Russians stood up against their government. we are not stupid we see what is going on around us.
 
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i agree with you
it was the 'militia' that bothered me. militia's are armed. if armed militia were to go after 'them' i think we'd know what would happen.

during the week it is hard for people to attends these court rallies and DA meetings but on week-ends you can draw larger crowds.
it might take a bit of self-sacrifice and inconvienience to win this fight.
 
I can't help but wonder who is really behind the latest effort to flout the law? Is it really because of "illegal sales" of a known non-toxic, safe, natural medicine, or is it something else?

One can't help but wonder if it is larger dispensaries who are fighting to maintain their market share, or the biggest dispensaries (e.g: Oaksterdam) trying to garner a monopoly on the market for themselves?

The more that you look at the situation as a whole, the more that you come to the inescapeable conclusion that the only long-term solution to the problem is complete legalization for responsible adults. This would eliminate all of the back-room politics that we all have to guess at, while protecting the rights of the people to simply cure their own diseases with their treatment of choice.

Of course the pharmaceutical industry is terrified of this prospect...they've built and entire industry on falsifying data on their laboratory-derived toxins and calling it science!

Of course the prison industry is terrified of the potential loss of profitability.

Of course the cotton industy, the paper industry, the alcohol industry, the forestry industry, the soybean industry, the oil industry...they are all threatened by cannabis becoming legal again, as they have based their entire industries on ATERNATIVES TO HEMP, and rather than using common sense to move to a new paradigm in which everyone's best interests were at the heart of it, they continue to drown in their selfishness and greed to the detriment of society as a whole.

Personally, I think that all of the "threatened industries" should simply start using their collective common sense and admit that they are fighting a battle which they must eventually lose...the truth is out there, and as more and more people are told the true facts and discard all of the decades of propaganda they've been fed, the conclusion is already assured. It's only a matter of time.
 
i think as with anything there are people that will abuse the new system, in wa state a freind of mine hed his dispensery raded but he was a total dumb ass, if the law says no over the counter , well we need to abide by that, ye there are going to be those of us that want to give them the big FU but that is just getting us in the ass, got to do it right, people r trying to ern a living when that law says it can not be sold for profit, i would tell my california brothers to get there heads on straight and lets do this right, im all for it being legal , but it is getting way out of controll, if i had a med card , beleive me i would grow my own for me and no one else and keep my fucking mouth shut, as long as it is still e federal crime it is a very dangerous game, i dont want to loose years of my life for being stupid, when i was a kid my mom would send me to my room and there was nothing i could do about it, no matter haw much i cried..
 
Could the President call for it to be legal? Like in one day? Just curious. You know, like how we gave companies a lot of loot. oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and now that thoughs companies are on top, when arem they gonna start paying us money?lol really or similiar. makeing more wayyyyy affordable stuff. anyone know what i mean?
 
I would suggest that people google "2002 Canadian Senate Report" and see what the results were of that session.

You will find that the Canadian Senate has generally stated that cannabis should be legal for use of anyone over the age of 15. I believe that I understand why this age was chosen, as I recall reading an unconfirmed paper which suggested that cannabis "may" cause neurochemical imbalances in developing brains. While this has not been substantiated by further studies (to my knowledge) I feel that this is quite a reasonable consideration, although my personal thoughts are that once you are at or above the age of majority in your state/province/territory, you should be allowed to do whatever you want so long as you harm noone else.

Long and short, if you're in your own home minding your own business, it's not a crime, nor should it ever have been made into one.

While regulations should be in place for medical use, pharmacy distribution for specific medical conditions, specific strength and purity of the product for use in medical preparations or treatments, and of course to be absolutely certain that all large-scale commercially grown cannabis for medical purposes is absolutely safe, pure, and natural, I must suggest that the only long-term solution with any degree of viability is for complete legalization for medical or recreational uses by responsible adults.

Regulation is only of benefit in limited doses...and it serves absolutely no purpose in your home or personal life.
 
The whole situation is full of idiosyncrasies like taxing non-profit entities! So, what is it, a non-profit or a business that is to be taxed? No other non-profit is taxed to my knowledge.

Why is a dispensary near a school or park an issue? I cannot remember anything written about liquor stores or heaven forbid, a CVS pharmacy opening near an elementary school! For profit businesses that allow all ages to enter while a dispensary won't let you in without your recommendation in hand.

This is just another up and coming DA a-hole trying to make a name for himself. Anyone remember the Duke Lacrosse Team and DA Michael Nifong?

Now I will admit that the way dispensaries currently operate is more in a "Wild, Wild West" way but without clear operating guidelines coming from our tax paid governing bodies, what did they expect?

Wouldn't a more rational approach be to send out letters via registered mail to every dispensary that is supposedly in violation that spells out exactly what they are doing wrong and suggestions to get into compliance? Oh yeah, there isn't any good guidelines. This is a witch hunt. I really hope the public has come around enough to realize these DA's are out to waste what little public funds remain in order to further their own career goals.

That all being said, what do some of these dispensaries think would happen when they advertise with cartoon characters and the like. Carry yourselves in a professional manner and treat the product as the medicine it is being sold.
 
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