Spumantii's First Grow Op

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The #2 clones arent looking hot right now.. things seem Ok, but for that.. I need them to carry on the line! Might be the best genes I have! Thanks for the encouragement!

 

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Day 60!

If I light the clones, they'll wilt. They aren't ready yet. Just like last time, the top cutting is the one that struggles the most. Hopefully it will recover, but it likely won't be on time with the others.

#2 showing whorling alternating internodes. Also has a little variegation. So pretty! I'm just pulling the arms down to make upshots for the stretch... It's going to be amazing, based on what I've seen others achieve I am looking forward to it.

#1 was an unruly monster. Showing sativa characteristics and the leaves have settled on being blue-green and skinny, and I'm not sure I like it as much, but it has countless tops.. I'll clone it and flower it next just to make more room. That's the thing I can only really have a mother for so long, or I'll have to start filling my apartment with moms on cfls, and I'm already pushing my limit lol. She pretty much stopped extending branches and decided to bring up the inner branches, and it's a fairly uniform 2x2 mat of tops now.

 

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Here are the Dec 30 clones, each 27 days old, most clones will survive, the question is will they be viable on time to meet the sog schedule..

 

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Day 65 and I didn't anticipate exactly how bad having 4 plants maturing at the same time can be space wise. I have a problem quickly getting out of hand lol. I have moved #1 over to begin flower time, mainly because I won't have space for the little ones coming up. #3 is about the same size now and will be the biggest thing in the veg tent for another 2 weeks or so. The plan was to have them mature in pairs, so the first mothers are backlogging things. I might just have to park one in another room under a cfl for a little while after all.

Trying agressive bending with the blunana (day 33), which is fimmed and seems to have spent a whole lot of energy on the trunk before anything else smh, hoping for a growth spurt with the little things exposed now.

The clones survived, 3 having rooted without wilting and one that wilted but is trying to turn over. It will survive but not make the schedule. I've potted them in 2 pairs, in 4" squares until they're ready to go to 5 gal bags. I may use the bins and pots again, but I've seen what the roots do in those and it can cause problems. Bags stop root tips instead of turning them like pots do. Instead of encircling, a new tip will go somewhere else. This should mean a healthier root structure, better uptake, just one way to get a plant to focus on other things.

Bought a little greenhouse thing for some aromatics that bugs don't like, since there are annoying tiny flies about the size of an ant head, they're really stupid and hopping around the soil surface and on leaves. Not very many, maybe one visible every time I notice. I have a roll of fly trap hanging. Are these gnats or thrips? I need a resident spider asap. Reluctant to use any kind of cide in my apartment.

#4 has the signs of K shortage, thanks to @Pennywise for the advice, I've given it extra with every feeding for 3 now but the leaves don't seem to recover, however new leaves seem to be fine. This one seems to be the most nute-thirsty.

 

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Doing a high 5? Why do they point their leaves up like this sometimes..

 

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Shown here are the clones that just matured (#2), the next set of clones (these are from #4), and the watering solution. I was going to rig up something with a bottle and a tube with a shutoff valve but for 25 bucks I got this thing, it holds 1.5G, it's made for pesticides but can easily do feed. It's a pump action spray with pressure valve trigger. I just removed the spray head and it waters 4 streams very effectively, and the amount I want, and it gets in all the tight spaces perfectly. This was actually becoming a pain in the ass, but now reach is easy, it can dispense a little or a lot at once depending on the input. Found at Lowe's/Rona, would recommend for sure.

 

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Day 10 of flower update on #2. #1 hasn't shown any signs of flowering after 5 days..

The Jan 16 clones were looking good unyilni put their rockwool in the dirt. They all stunted and may not make it. I took all the clones and put them in the greenhouse thing on a heat pad. I also have strawberries starting there, and above and below I've got basil dill lavender rosemary sage echinacea and cosmos flowers and catnip. Why not, lol.

Also shown, #3 and 4, bluenana, and the 3 Dec 30 clones

 

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Shown here groot (bluenana) getting a haircut and training outward

Pistils on #2 under a glass

Rosso

 

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Does this look creepy to you? What's wrong? Why are the leaves growing out all rolled up and skinny? #1 Still looks creepy

 

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This is day 11 flower for one pic, day 6 for the other. The other one is confusing me. Lower preflowers indicate female and the young calyx looks like the other plant but it hasn't shown any sign of changing from veg. Is this one going to take 3 months? I wonder if this one is mostly the haze grandfather of the NL strain. It grows stupid fast then the leaves get skinny and it has monster stipulas.. almost 2 cm long on one top.

 

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74 days into operations

Bought heat mat for seedling/clone tray, and a plastic tray grid thing made specifically for rockwool.

Discovered cat grass has amazing transpiration and could be added to any covered tray to keep moisture up.

Old clones are struggling, but noticed a definite perk-up over the course of 2 days on the heat mat. Currently have a bunch of scrag from flower transitioning #1 in the clone cooker, I'm just going to flower them after about 10 days of veg. I was going to throw them away anyway, why not try to get something out of the cuttings? They obviously won't harvest at the same time, they won't be at canopy height, who cares. I'm not going to up pot them past 1 gallon if that. They can be little bud sticks. I'll probably do that for every plant at week 1 flower scrag trim. The strongest clone of those will carry on the genes.

The scrog is just not strong enough for this task.. Somewhat disappointing.

Up-pot to permanent home for Groot, 7 gallon bag

#4 has been K thirsty for like a month now, I've been giving it feed on every watering, and the new growth is stabilizing, finally. Using training weights. Scrog netting is good for a little while then becomes obstructive with a congested workspace, imo. Weights and tie downs are practical in here.

I've been reading about harvest and curing because I'm completely clueless on that end. #2 has been flowering for 13 days.. The biggest flower is about the size of a chickpea. There's a TON of internodal space. The one time I grew and it flowered was 16 years ago, and on those the flowers were so thick they broke the branches off, filling all that space. I screwed up and rushed the cure, but these look small for 2 weeks. There's no 'sugar' anywhere, but it is tacky and sticky on the leaf tips

 

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I suppose they should all have names if I keep them going.. they'll need to be identified properly

Jackie O


Barbara Bush


Michelle Obama


Melanoma Trump

 

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Is there a community that meets to share genetics in the Lower mainland, BC, area...? I haven't fully fully explored the boards but do you guys ever do meet ups or do you do a tent at 420 here?

Barbara is very clone-able. It's safe to say the clones of Jackie failed, they may survive, but the run after them of Michelle might even take before them. Just curious about seed exchanges or breeding. I mentioned I plan to leave a bud on each plant and hope to leave it somewhere to see if it seeds itself, to collect seed later. If I have a strong plant though, it could be worth placing a female clone next or harvested leftover next to a male if anyone is breeding, just to see what gives.

 

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Death Bubba

 

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Jackie O (NL) day 19 flower. Seems a little small to me, buds have not spanned internode space like in the posters lol. Is this a normal amount of growth for 20 days or do I need a stronger flowering light..

Barbara (NL haze dominant) day 14 of flower only just now showing teeny mini buds. Plant is stupidly huge and keeps trying to veg. Bending it sideways to stay under the screen.

There's Groot (blunana) in day 47 from seed. Slower than the others but catching up. Tried topping it but I guess I missed after all. Low branches are properly topped and splitting, but I'll be trying a more ambitious train on the next one.

The middle clone from Dec 30 (Barbara) and the little clone that could, have both graduated to the flower tent as of yesterday. A clone of that plant remains in the veg tent, and there are 8 cuts in the Grodan box that are all doing much better than the last 2 runs, and I'm going to be flowering those almost immediately after rooting because it seems to take a year to flower them.

This brings up the next item. Jan 21 and Jan 26 clones were a disaster. Jan 21 (Jackie) gave 4 lower cuts, one wilted and just never fully came back, 2 seemed to bounce back and forth between wilt and picking up but I suppose didn't fully root and didn't complete the bounce back, and rewilted. Smh. One of those is alive in the Grodan, the other is on it's last legs in soil. The Jan 26 (Michelle) haven't fared much better. One was a lost cause from the beginning.. I just wanted to see if it would work, one is in the greenhouse on a heat mat in dirt and is on the wrong side of the line and 2 made it across. When they take the light without wilting or yellowing and start new growth- it'll be really bright green, then you know there's a working root. Overall, my experience with rockwool has sucked, but the domed Grodan grid on a heat mat seems to be working. If that fails then rockwool is banned from my operations.

Michelle might have been short on K, but I've been soaking her with feed and it has actually gotten a bit worse in some places while others have improved. I think this is a magnesium shortage. Figures, as cal/mag was the only thing I don't have as a concentrate. Leaf stems are deep purple, as with stripes on the stems, the main leaf veins have it, on the affected leaves. That also happens when the roots are oxygen deprived I noticed. They change color when the roots can't breathe.

One observation and hypothesis I can't substantiate- The plant knows how much of it is in shade, and these gibberellins and cytokinins are generated by branches that get no light or low light, and those are the things that cause long stretchy growth from the low branches. You get these little suckers with 4" internode space reaching for the canopy. I want to think that cutting fan leaves to prevent the plant from shading itself too much causes less of these hormones in the plant, and also directs resources from those fan leaves to the growth tips next to them instead. I'm testing by doing.

 

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There's an echo in here

 

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What the... Another growth tip in the knuckle of the last one. That's not supposed to happen lol. Groot.

 

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Some new swag, couple of lights- both are 90w equivalent. Together using under 20w costing under 30 bucks.

Shown, death bubba seedling

The 2 surviving Jackie clones, almost 30 days old now, and can't ever make the transition from the dome.

The bud stick project. All of those were standing up after 10 days in the gro dome, you can see roots in but not extending from the wools, and they were starting to be overmoist so I planted and they wilted but aren't dead.

Of all the Rockwood clones so far only one has definitely made it, a Michelle from jam 26. 4 melanoma cuts in the dome right now. Autocorrect strikes again and idc leaving it that way.

Edit, the root gnats love rockwool. I've been putting anti-gnat soap.

Rockwool- It's just not working out, I had better luck just putting the stem in dirt. I'm still going to use the dome, but probably going with peat pods, and I'm going to do 2 dome trays on 2 heat pads. Week 1 dome tray has a reservoir and gets super humid, week 2 has no reservoir and both ports open. The transition to open air under the main light is killing them, and staying in the dome with a reservoir kills them with rot after about 10 days. Already have everything I need, and so week 1 gets green light, week 2 gets the full spectrum, and they should be capable of planting after that. The Dec 30 clones showed me what they can do when things work out.

 

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New growth on Michelle is back to normal after power feeding it cal mag.

Flower day 22 for Jackie. Still seems like small production to me for almost half way. Been feeding all flowering plants extra on every watering and they are just taking it in.

The little bulbs I bought yesterday might be worth arraying somehow if I find myself needing a backup spot for veg. It's probably bright enough with a few in an array and full spectrum. Found at home depot along with the clamp on work light

 

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I got my first hydro bill since starting, it went from 57 something to 116, over 2 months. Meh!