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[SmokingWings]

As an aside, I would advise you to not conduct a clandestine grow in your parents house. Besides any legal consequences to them and their property if you live in a prohibition state,

Even outside if the plants are growing on their property they have a high level of being responsible for the activity if the house is in a prohibitive state. Just something to keep in mind.

 

[Krissi Carbone]

Good luck on your grow. I hope you get to finish it up this time. In the future, when you don't have to hide this (idk how you are), you can tend to them more and be more observant to their distress signals.

You're not growing a petunia that you just throw some fertilizer on, water it, walk away and come back and do the same thing the next day when you can actually sneak over to them. Nutrients need to be monitored well. Your plants want to be monitored well.

We were all young once and doing things we shouldn't do at some point or another, in some degree or another...just be careful, as a mom now I can't keep my mouth shut here, understand the legal repercussions may lay with both you and them God forbid you get caught NOT by them....

I'm sure after the stress of the what-ifs in this grow, the smoke will be rewarding-especially since you missed out the last two rounds...

 

[Prairiedog]

I agree , I've seen some fantastic grows in small pots , though ive also seen a lot of clawing top and bottom when the shit hits the fan
I wonder what size the pot is ? looks about 3 gallon i used to use three gallon for coco but moved up to 5 and to 7.5 gallon soilless /coco/peat base , UK Gallon and growing Autos
I also wonder how quick the water is used by the plant

We caught a guy that shaved down the roots from a 5 gallon to fit in a solo cup it was absurd you could tell by the stalk being almost as wide as the solo cup. We kept asking to see the root ball and wouldn't. He did it so fresh that the leaves had no time to curl or wilt. YouTube deleted all that content a long time.

I am guessing 2-3 gallon(USA gallon) felt pots and they are supposed to automatically prune roots? I have a bunch I have never used them.

 

[garybo]

This is common problem/results with fox farm nutrients. They have amazing nutrients but a lot of growers raeely tend to flush between feeds and it builds up some toxicity.

@Prairiedog, How true and great prognosis . A few years back I was also one of those that had those same problems using fox farm soil and nuts. Since them I've learned to make my own soil which is more controllable (my opinion) for nurturing the ladies.

 

[Doc166]

ok need to correct terminology here…… there is a huge diffence between giving your chicks a plain water session and doing a flush. A flush is pouring 3 times the volume of the container down the hatch, so that’s 15 gallons water for a 5 gallon bucket of soil.

As far as I am aware there are zero nutrients companies that tell you to feed, flush, flush. They might be telling you to feed, water, water but never should anyone be doing feed, flush, flush unless you spilled motor oil or battery acid on your crew.

Yes there is a case for flushing - when the nute maker has included that in their feed chart. Absolutely FF suggests this at certain stages during the grow, and yup flushing can fix some soil problems…but flushing is not the answer to everything….

the brown tips just are, meaning yup they exist and show your nutes are working. But nothing, I repeat nothing…. will repair the damaged leaves. It’s really hard as a grower, we are impatient and want our chicks to deliver flowers….we think we gotta be doing something cuz doing nothing is bad…. but you gotta slow down to plant speed and learn how to garden with your hands in your pockets…. observe but don’t touch

This is her flowering moment and she is sucking every drop of resources she can get her roots on…. she is even pulling stored nutes back out of her fans.…..so instead of washing resources out the bottom of her bucket - might want to make sure she has plenty to munch on……

checking her runoff numbers is pointless, if you are concerned about ph or ppm numbers then worry about what ph or ppm you are pouring into the media not what runs out the bottom ….

your chicks look fine, sure I’ve seen better but also much worse. It would be great if every plant finished up picture perfect…. but most come in with yellowed up leaves and kinda ragged looking. Once you are in flower it’s hard to pull out of a deficiency….

you are doing great - keep after it!!!


BTW’s Doc166, it’s great to have you onboard….!!!

Thank you!
Great to be onboard

 

[Doc166]

I am seeing a multitude of issues - both deficiency and excess. A lot of the larger fan leaves are very dark green. That, and the clawing of some of the smaller upper leaves, suggests excess N. I also see obvious Mg def (interveinal paling and necrosis) and some minor K def (browning and necrosis along leaf margins). And, there is leaf tip necrosis, which, if only on lower to mid leaves, would also indicate K def, but since it’s also on the upper leaves, this suggests that K was elevated to excess recently. It’s the element typically responsible for “nute burn”.

Very confusing. To me, it seems to indicate the need for a flush/reset to resolve a lock out. How many of these products are you using? And are you performing the suggested flushes (like between veg and bloom)?

As an aside, I would advise you to not conduct a clandestine grow in your parents house. Besides any legal consequences to them and their property if you live in a prohibition state, there is the very real risk of fire, which you would hate to be responsible for if it happens.

Thank you!
I’m using big bloom, grow big and tiger bloom along with cal/mag. I did perform the suggested flush between veg/bloom but not with sledgehammer flush.

Also I’m not growing in their property anymore, that was definitely a young mistake that I’ve learned from. Thankfully everything is legal in my state.

 

[Doc166]

I agree , I've seen some fantastic grows in small pots , though ive also seen a lot of clawing top and bottom when the shit hits the fan
I wonder what size the pot is ? looks about 3 gallon i used to use three gallon for coco but moved up to 5 and to 7.5 gallon soilless /coco/peat base , UK Gallon and growing Autos
I also wonder how quick the water is used by the plant

Thank you!
I’m using big bloom, grow big and tiger bloom along with cal/mag. I did perform the suggested flush between veg/bloom but not with sledgehammer flush.

Also I’m not growing in their property anymore, that was definitely a young mistake that I’ve learned from. Thankfully everything is legal in my state.

I agree , I've seen some fantastic grows in small pots , though ive also seen a lot of clawing top and bottom when the shit hits the fan
I wonder what size the pot is ? looks about 3 gallon i used to use three gallon for coco but moved up to 5 and to 7.5 gallon soilless /coco/peat base , UK Gallon and growing Autos
I also wonder how quick the water is used by the plant

I believe the pot is 3 gal, I forget. Would definitely go up in size for the next grow. The soil stays moist about 2-3 days after watering