We need a doctor: brown lines on leaves

[Wulves]

Can anyone identify this .
I can't seem to find anything online remotely close .
Thank you
Auto flower
8 weeks old
Fox Farm Happy Frog
Fox Farm Trio
Always PH
Flushed after every two feedings
Temp 77°
Humidity 44%
Under Spider Farmer 2200
22 inches above canopy

 

[Emilya Green]

Flushed after every two feedings

Please explain what you mean by this

 

[Wulves]

Please explain what you mean by this

Oh the photos didn't upload
The brown lines on the leaves are concerning ,and the other leaf looks pretty but probably not right either.
BTW how are you ,and thank you

 

[Emilya Green]

Please explain what you mean by this

bump

 

[Wulves]

Please explain what you mean by this

I feed twice , with trio Fox Farms
Then third watering I flush the plant

 

[Emilya Green]

by flushing, do you mean that you just water with plain water, maybe pH adjusted to 6.3 pH?

 

[Wulves]

by flushing, do you mean that you just water with plain water, maybe pH adjusted to 6.3 pH?

Yes I PH to 6.0 6.2
And don't use any nutes .
Sorry

 

[Emilya Green]

OK, what I see happening here is a calcium deficiency, but you shouldn't have this based on the nute system and soil you are running. The reason that you are having this seems to be multifold.

First, flushing needs to be understood because in a FF grow, flushing is called for several times on the feeding schedule. This is not a joke and they are not simply trying to sell you their flushing agent, Sledgehammer, they know that their nutes will back up and cause lockouts if not flushed away periodically. A flush, without Sledgehammer is defined as pouring 3x your container size in fresh water through your soil, in one sitting. A flush with Sledgehammer will require less water. The goal of this is to flush or WASH any leftover nutes and built up salts from the use of those nutes.

A watering with plain pH adjusted water has not ever been known as a flush before the bro-scientists and keyboard gurus started to change the meaning of the term to include simple watering, but in the agricultural world, flushing has always meant flushing the soil so as to clean it out. FF clearly shows that you need to flush between weeks 4 and 5 when you switch away from purely veg nute mixes and then twice more before end of the grow. If you do not proplerly flush a Fox Farm grow, you are very likely to have problems.

It gets worse though... you are using a F/F/W schedule (feed/feed/water) instead of the traditional F/W/F/W schedule in soil. There is a good reason for alternating feed and water. The dosages given in the feeding chart are actually enough for two feedings, but you give it once and then give water the next time, properly pH adjusted so that you activate the nutes that are temporarily stored in your soil. This is the problem, the soil is designed to capture half of the nutes and feed the rest to the plants, and when you give plain water the next time it not only cleans out the soil of any leftover nutes, but it also effectively feeds the plant a second time.

So you are overfeeding the first time, really overfeeding the second time, and then the third time you allow the plant to use up some of the stored up nutes in the soil. Not only are you wasting nutes, but you are also not at all cleaning out the soil as the system was meant to be used. You would get much better response from your nutes if you spread them out by doing a plain water inbetween.

You very likely have a buildup of both salt and nutrients in your soil. This is causing a lockout or an inability to get to calcium some of the time, hence the slight deficiency. Do a 3x flush and treat that as a normal water only day. There is no reason to pH adjust this water because you are flushing away the nutes, and it is only for the nutes that we bother to pH adjust anyway. After this, alternate feed and water through the rest of the grow, and watch for your next call to flush.... especially at the 6 week point, as the buds are going into their final buildup, don't forget to flush so you can clear the pipes for full nutrient uptake for a spectacular finish.

And no, I did not recommend flushing immediately before harvest, or starving the plants of nutrients during the last week or two.... just continue feeding them and 3x flushing when FF calls for it.

 

[Wulves]

OK, what I see happening here is a calcium deficiency, but you shouldn't have this based on the nute system and soil you are running. The reason that you are having this seems to be multifold.

First, flushing needs to be understood because in a FF grow, flushing is called for several times on the feeding schedule. This is not a joke and they are not simply trying to sell you their flushing agent, Sledgehammer, they know that their nutes will back up and cause lockouts if not flushed away periodically. A flush, without Sledgehammer is defined as pouring 3x your container size in fresh water through your soil, in one sitting. A flush with Sledgehammer will require less water. The goal of this is to flush or WASH any leftover nutes and built up salts from the use of those nutes.

A watering with plain pH adjusted water has not ever been known as a flush before the bro-scientists and keyboard gurus started to change the meaning of the term to include simple watering, but in the agricultural world, flushing has always meant flushing the soil so as to clean it out. FF clearly shows that you need to flush between weeks 4 and 5 when you switch away from purely veg nute mixes and then twice more before end of the grow. If you do not proplerly flush a Fox Farm grow, you are very likely to have problems.

It gets worse though... you are using a F/F/W schedule (feed/feed/water) instead of the traditional F/W/F/W schedule in soil. There is a good reason for alternating feed and water. The dosages given in the feeding chart are actually enough for two feedings, but you give it once and then give water the next time, properly pH adjusted so that you activate the nutes that are temporarily stored in your soil. This is the problem, the soil is designed to capture half of the nutes and feed the rest to the plants, and when you give plain water the next time it not only cleans out the soil of any leftover nutes, but it also effectively feeds the plant a second time.

So you are overfeeding the first time, really overfeeding the second time, and then the third time you allow the plant to use up some of the stored up nutes in the soil. Not only are you wasting nutes, but you are also not at all cleaning out the soil as the system was meant to be used. You would get much better response from your nutes if you spread them out by doing a plain water inbetween.

You very likely have a buildup of both salt and nutrients in your soil. This is causing a lockout or an inability to get to calcium some of the time, hence the slight deficiency. Do a 3x flush and treat that as a normal water only day. There is no reason to pH adjust this water because you are flushing away the nutes, and it is only for the nutes that we bother to pH adjust anyway. After this, alternate feed and water through the rest of the grow, and watch for your next call to flush.... especially at the 6 week point, as the buds are going into their final buildup, don't forget to flush so you can clear the pipes for full nutrient uptake for a spectacular finish.

And no, I did not recommend flushing immediately before harvest, or starving the plants of nutrients during the last week or two.... just continue feeding them and 3x flushing when FF calls for it.

Thank You Emi.
So I should go get the Sledge Hammer and 3x it .
It's due now for my mistaken 2nd feed in a row.
So I'll go pick up some Sledgehammer tomorrow
And treat it like a watering with plain PH 6.3 watering.
Now next time she is thirsty. I should do my regular FF feeding then continue to alternate until harvest correct ?
This Seedsman Gelat OG Auto has been the easiest plant I ever grew . It's been on cruise control and enormous for a 7 week old.
I was just saying how beautiful and easy it's been to grow and anticipated a smooth grow .
Lmao. I came home tonight and looked and SURPRISE!
never fails.
Thank you again.
I hope you been well.
I was going to PM you but I didn't want to be a bother to you so I just posted in in general .
And there you are again bailing me out.
Thank you again.
Happy Harvest Day tomorrow.

 

[Emilya Green]

Thank You Emi.
So I should go get the Sledge Hammer and 3x it .
It's due now for my mistaken 2nd feed in a row.
So I'll go pick up some Sledgehammer tomorrow
And treat it like a watering with plain PH 6.3 watering.
Now next time she is thirsty. I should do my regular FF feeding then continue to alternate until harvest correct ?
This Seedsman Gelat OG Auto has been the easiest plant I ever grew . It's been on cruise control and enormous for a 7 week old.
I was just saying how beautiful and easy it's been to grow and anticipated a smooth grow .
Lmao. I came home tonight and looked and SURPRISE!
never fails.
Thank you again.
I hope you been well.
I was going to PM you but I didn't want to be a bother to you so I just posted in in general .
And there you are again bailing me out.
Thank you again.
Happy Harvest Day tomorrow.

I have been very well, and thank you for asking. Please feel free to call me in on something anytime, you won't bother me. I am convinced that using warm water works as well as using Sledgehammer. I would typically put the plants in my bathtub with a filter in the drain, and pour warm water in until flushed. So yes, treat this 3x flush as a watering and she will dry out as usual. The next time you need to water do it with nutes and then continue to alternate... yes it sounds like you've got it. Give it 2 or 3 waterings to get this all sorted out and then I think you will be able to report back that the plants are looking better. Those spots you have now may not go away, but at least you will not get any more of them.

 

[Steveolevi]

Can anyone identify this .
I can't seem to find anything online remotely close .
Thank you
Auto flower
8 weeks old
Fox Farm Happy Frog
Fox Farm Trio
Always PH
Flushed after every two feedings
Temp 77°
Humidity 44%
Under Spider Farmer 2200
22 inches above canopy

Check out Boron deficiencies. I've had it like this just not as bad as yours. You need micronutrients

 

[SmokingWings]

So I should go get the Sledge Hammer and 3x it .

If using just plain water it is '3 times' the volume of the pot.

If using the Sledgehammer product then mix as directed by Fox Farm and drench the soil so it will require a lot less water.

Give Fox Farms a call if you have any questions on mixing and using Sledgehammer if you don't find the info on their FAQ page or anywhere else on their website.