How To Make Concentrated Cannabis Oil

[OldMedUser]

That makes sense as that would be around a 13% strain.

You have to remember that cannabis has over 60 different cannabinoids so when you make something like RSO there's a lot more than THC in it. You can only make a very rough estimate of how much THC will be in each dose unless the oil is sent to a certified lab to have not only the potency tested but which cannabinoids are present and in what quantities.

For small batches $60 for the test is too much but if making an oz or more of oil in one batch then it can be worth the cost.

 

[94xjjohn]

As I recall the dosage T recommended was 1G per day broken up into rice grain sized doses throughout the day, being sure to drink water regularly throughout day for the first 60 days at a min. Once things are clear medically, however long that takes, you may reduce to a maintenance dose of a grain of rice size as low as 3 time per day. The lb was based on an estimation of how much flower is required to produce 60g oil.

Hey budnoob3, I just wanted to ask a question.
Are you talking about Tim's recommendation for a cancer dose ?
If you are, the dose is 1ml. per day minimum, not 1 gram. There are about 4 grams in 1ml. of oil. It took 6 months of over 1ml. per day to "cure" my fast prostate cancer, far longer than 60 days.
Let's err on the conservative side so as to not instill false hope. Cancer is a bitch and takes all we've got to beat it.
If you're not talking cancer but some other ailment, well EXcuuuuuuse me !

 

[Azimuth]

You have to remember that cannabis has over 60 different cannabinoids so when you make something like RSO there's a lot more than THC in it. You can only make a very rough estimate of how much THC will be in each dose unless the oil is sent to a certified lab to have not only the potency tested but which cannabinoids are present and in what quantities.

For small batches $60 for the test is too much but if making an oz or more of oil in one batch then it can be worth the cost.

Right but I think Rick was using high THC strains, indica's if I recall correctly. And his focus was on THC.

 

[94xjjohn]

Indica for nighttime oil, sativa for daytime oil if you have a choice.
I believe we have over 100 cannabinoids in pot now.
Tim and Rick focused on THC because they were most interested in curing cancer. THC (as far as we know) is THE anticancer cannabinoid (although the entourage effect is attained with ALL the cannabinoids....full plant, best result).
Hope this is helpful.

 

[budnoob3]

That makes sense as that would be around a 13% strain.

Additionally, we shared the strategy of using sativa dominant hybrids for daytime oil and indica dominant for night time oil. Still works well for me.

 

[budnoob3]

Indica for nighttime oil, sativa for daytime oil if you have a choice.
I believe we have over 100 cannabinoids in pot now.
Tim and Rick focused on THC because they were most interested in curing cancer. THC (as far as we know) is THE anticancer cannabinoid (although the entourage effect is attained with ALL the cannabinoids....full plant, best result).
Hope this is helpful.

Precisely, when we say sativa dominant we are focusing primarily on attacking the cancer cells but there are at least 50 other variants of cannabinoids involved. Conversely, when we say indica dominant we are focusing primarlly on things like appetite, pain, inflammation, insomnia etc. That being said, you will find all kinds of conflicting information about this online and I’m simplifying things greatly. In my experience and others I’ve worked with that have shared with me, it appears to be accurate. I try not to share what I haven’t seen with my own two eyes unless it is something a trusted advisor who has a proven track record. I know I said I didn’t want to clutter thread but I really do care and want to help any way I can.

 

[94xjjohn]

Precisely, when we say sativa dominant we are focusing primarily on attacking the cancer cells but there are at least 50 other variants of cannabinoids involved. Conversely, when we say indica dominant we are focusing primarlly on things like appetite, pain, inflammation, insomnia etc. That being said, you will find all kinds of conflicting information about this online and I’m simplifying things greatly. In my experience and others I’ve worked with that have shared with me, it appears to be accurate. I try not to share what I haven’t seen with my own two eyes unless it is something a trusted advisor who has a proven track record. I know I said I didn’t want to clutter thread but I really do care and want to help any way I can.

We can agree to disagree.

Sativa and indica BOTH contain THC which is the anticancer cannabinoid (probably among others).
If you placed "THC" where you use "sativa" and put "CBD" where you use "indica" I would agree with you.
Sativa dominant oil gives most people enough energy to function in the day and is used to fight cancer among other ailments.
Indica dominant oil relaxes most people enough to get a good night sleep and is used to fight cancer among other ailments.

 

[budnoob3]

I agree with everything you’re saying so I don’t think we really disagree at all, just a matter of my oversimplification. And I could definitely be backwards and completely wrong. What I do know is that by using both types of strains I attained miraculous results. Personally I used BLue Dream and Kosher Kush and of course others but those were most consistently used by me.

 

[budnoob3]

I agree with everything you’re saying so I don’t think we really disagree at all, just a matter of my oversimplification. And I could definitely be backwards and completely wrong. What I do know is that by using both types of strains I attained miraculous results. Personally I used BLue Dream and Kosher Kush and of course others but those were most consistently used by me.

Too add, one of the reasons I try to stick to high level comments is that I learned from my own behaviors over the years. I tended to be more hung ho and speak out about any opinion that didn’t match my own and I still cringe at some of the stupid things I’ve said or wasn’t open minded enough to consider alternative perspectives. The fact that I don’t argue with anyone but rather will try to conscientiously debate if I see something that may be harmful while keeping an open mind that I might be wrong. There are countless variables involved in what we deal with day to day, and over the years I’ve witnessed miraculous results using varying methods including those I know nothing about. If you go back to my original profile budnoob without a 3 and and another year to that at least while I was just stalking I hope you could all agree the even the fact I’m still around confirms I’m not just blowing smoke. Love and respect…

 

[budnoob3]

Too add, one of the reasons I try to stick to high level comments is that I learned from my own behaviors over the years. I tended to be more hung ho and speak out about any opinion that didn’t match my own and I still cringe at some of the stupid things I’ve said or wasn’t open minded enough to consider alternative perspectives. The fact that I don’t argue with anyone but rather will try to conscientiously debate if I see something that may be harmful while keeping an open mind that I might be wrong. There are countless variables involved in what we deal with day to day, and over the years I’ve witnessed miraculous results using varying methods including those I know nothing about. If you go back to my original profile budnoob without a 3 and and another year to that at least while I was just stalking I hope you could all agree the even the fact I’m still around confirms I’m not just blowing smoke. Love and respect…

And since I’m not sleeping and feeling well I’d like to summarize as briefly as possible what worked for me and still does with the disclaimer that what works for me doesn’t necessarily work for anyone else although I can attest that one other person who followed the exact same protocol is still here with us. Another disclaimer is that other homeopathic remedies, avoiding all sugars including artificial sweeteners, avoiding most oils, exercise and significant change in diets were involved (lots of superfoods, raw vegetables, etc)
Tim’s methods for preparing the oil
Many different growers taught me but it boils down to organic was primarily how I went, did some tests with Hi-Brix that were mostly but not quite all organic so in the end I modified it to be 100% organic which did sacrifice yield a small amount but did not sacrifice quality.
Never used anything but spyrytus which may be spelled wrong but essentially a safe food grade extraction alcohol.
Used the gum tack method invented by Tim afaik, but also used every other method you have seen in these pages.
Used a mixture of carbed and non-carbed oils- which I was happy to see others have tried - don’t really know if it helped but at least can say it did no harm.
Typically harvested my sativa at 20- 30% or so amber, and harvested my indica at anywhere from 40-60% amber trichomes. Again not sure if it helped but my logic was to vary it randomly to try and cover all bases. Didn’t hurt.
As for day vs night oil schedule I personally considered 8am - 6pm day and after 6pm - midnight or when I went to bed night
For water intake, I would drink at least 6oz every time I urinated at a minimum.
Again this is what worked and still does for me so I hope it helps someone else. Much love and respect and healing to you all that read this.

 

[budnoob3]

Has anyone here treated a patient with Breast Angiosarcoma Cancer using CCO?

Tried to once but they unfortunately were very skeptical and wouldn’t even try it as an additive to traditional path. In that case they followed the advise of a world renowned hospital that has a much better survival rating than most institutions yet she lost the battle. Not saying I know that our ways would’ve changed the outcome but in my mind I’m about 90% certain it would’ve added a modicum of quality of life and eased some of the suffering. Would be grateful to hear about any success!

 

[KingJohnC]

I caution distillation i a precise safety process of eliminating harmful byproducts, for anyone unaccustomed with manufacture of alcohol all byproducts above and below safety limits must be discarded.

 

[budnoob3]

I’ve never used a distlller, just the old fashioned process with a recommended rice cooker with variable temp control and laser thermometer to monitor temps to maintain below 170F. May take more time but I’m comfortable with it and only ever use food grade vodka circa 197 proof. Again, not saying other ways won’t work or produce better results while being more efficient, all I can say is there’s no evidence of any harm YET.

 

[KingJohnC]

Our understanding of cannabis as medicine is to capture the medicinal essences a specific food grade solvent 190 proof 95% alcohol is required. Using a controlled process we convert THC acid into active THC and potentiate the medicinal qualities and refine the cannabis medicine concentrating the healing essences. THC is the most dominant cannabinoid and responsible for the psychoactive qualities which an individuals tolerance builds to mitigate any perceived intoxication. While in a fasted energy deprived state the body's holistic healing is activated and focuses the metabolism to efficiently use and burn stored energies as fuel sources. The body's naturopathic vitality is engaged and conducts restoring energies through the body's systems. Regular vigorous physical activities allow these essences to be directed and channelled to rebuild and reinforce our health.

 

[budnoob3]

Our understanding of cannabis as medicine is to capture the medicinal essences a specific food grade solvent 190 proof 95% alcohol is required. Using a controlled process we convert THC acid into active THC and potentiate the medicinal qualities and refine the cannabis medicine concentrating the healing essences. THC is the most dominant cannabinoid and responsible for the psychoactive qualities which an individuals tolerance builds to mitigate any perceived intoxication. While in a fasted energy deprived state the body's holistic healing is activated and focuses the metabolism to efficiently use and burn stored energies as fuel sources. The body's naturopathic vitality is engaged and conducts restoring energies through the body's systems. Regular vigorous physical activities allow these essences to be directed and channelled to rebuild and reinforce our health.

Love this, very succinct and accurate without having to delve into all the detail of CB1and CB2receptors, properties of all the 160 + or - cannabinoids uncovered thus far etc. While I encourage everyone to research and delve deeper for their own edification I believe in keeping things as simple as possible.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Tried to once but they unfortunately were very skeptical and wouldn’t even try it as an additive to traditional path. In that case they followed the advise of a world renowned hospital that has a much better survival rating than most institutions yet she lost the battle. Not saying I know that our ways would’ve changed the outcome but in my mind I’m about 90% certain it would’ve added a modicum of quality of life and eased some of the suffering. Would be grateful to hear about any success!

Earlier this week her condition became very bad and they were called immediately to a "New" specialist, who told them he believes he can get this under control.

There is a new round of different treatments he is setting her up for right away beginning with one called "Doxil" for what he calls her "Unique" Angio. They were put on a nationwide list of colleges for "cures". This is what was told to me, I have no idea what that entails.

As a result of the newfound hope this new professional has given them, (And I sure hope he's right) she is backing off on trying the oil other than putting the dispensary purchased "rso" on a cookie or snack to assist her in sleeping.

I'm still moving forward with being prepared to help, but stepping cautiously so she doesn't shut down on it altogether.

My own grow will not be ready for anything in the short term, so I'm bartering with a grower friend for cured bud.

 

[KingJohnC]

As a result of the newfound hope this new professional has given them, (And I sure hope he's right) she is backing off on trying the oil other than putting the dispensary purchased "rso" on a cookie or snack to assist her in sleeping.

I'm still moving forward with being prepared to help, but stepping cautiously so she doesn't shut down on it altogether.

My own grow will not be ready for anything in the short term, so I'm bartering with a grower friend for cured bud.

When we receive services at churches and other halls of worship and receive the "host" it is the body which the miracle of transubstantiation and renewal is passed and imparted through.

 

[OldMedUser]

There are about 4 grams in 1ml. of oil.

Barely over 1g in 1ml/cc my friend. I have 2 full 3cc syringes here and one empty but used one of the same kind. The new ones hit 6.41 and 6.44g with the used one coming in at 3.49g but has a bit of residue in it so would probably be 0.1g less if cleaned and re-weighed.

After subtracting the weight of the used one the weight of the oil was 2.92 and 2.95g so with the 0.1added they're just over 1g by a hair. Really clean oil might be a bit heavier but no more than a few percent.

 

[OldMedUser]

Right but I think Rick was using high THC strains, indica's if I recall correctly. And his focus was on THC.

Regardless of of the pot's THC content there are still many more cannabinoids in the oil unless it's an isolate.

THC will be the vast majority of it, maybe 95+%, but it won't be all.

There's so much going on in our sacred plant that they are still finding new things.

 

[KingJohnC]

We believe the superior grade of the 190 proof 95% alcohol solvent and its properties are what allow the medicinal cannabis essences to be extracted and concentrated and then refined to medicinal grade.

As a result of the newfound hope this new professional has given them, (And I sure hope he's right) she is backing off on trying the oil other than putting the dispensary purchased "rso" on a cookie or snack to assist her in sleeping.