susat66
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Make sure to always quarantine clones from others be friends or associates, and if in doubt spray them once they're growing, or you'll feel so p××××off if the mites or pm come pre installed.
Coco mania
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susat66
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And a definite custodial for theft of juice, cmom it ain't that expensive, the leccy companies don't care as long as they get paid. There's a million reasons for high usage. Feds will give no mercy , judge as well
no persi defence there.
no persi defence there.
farminglad
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Hi, im really interested in the last post. Im growing under a 600 hps in coco. I hand water using biogrow organic products every couple of days, with the water thats ph'd at 6 pre nutrients being added. My understanding was that I could not use an ec reader because of the organic nutes, is this the case. I am on week 7 of flowering northern lights/skunk no1 and am seeing quite a lot if leaf disclouration and yellow tips to new growth. Any advice would be welcomed
No, just give a little ph'd water or weak feed and allow to dry between watering. Wen pots feel light to lift they ready for a feed. Do not over water. Don't drown them either, little and often, as long as dry in between.
Velk
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Really helpfull info on coco .
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Velk
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Guys what nutes you recommend for coco I have. Ph up&down
Canna a&b
Canna pk
Cal mag
Cannazym
Canna flush
I have canna bloom canna start and rhyzotonic being deliverd am I missing anything ?
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Canna a&b
Canna pk
Cal mag
Cannazym
Canna flush
I have canna bloom canna start and rhyzotonic being deliverd am I missing anything ?
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MickFoster
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Wow! That's a lot of stuff. I only use GH MaxiBloom from start to finish.
Velk
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I've got more aswell lol I'm a complete noob so thought be prepared what dosage of nutes would you recomend for first feed seeds have sprouted so moving to there pots I just don't know how much to give them cal mag and nutes wise or even how much water to start with they are in 16l fabric pots
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BetterBudz420
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For coco, i started working for Dakine420 out of Redmond, oregon almost a year ago now and have grown for years and i have never used such a clean system as they have or seen as good of results. we average about 2-2.5lbs per 1000w light. the nutrient system is a dry powder 3 part. kind of like the fox farms system but its cheaper and cleaner. i have had no salt build up on my halos. and havent had to clean a rese or pump since i started using dakine. and they have a few mixes of coco products i use their organic blend packed with amendments. check them out! They have a great video on the website and pictures.
BedroomFarmer
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I'll just leave this here...
this is how I made my drip system. I hope it helps. There are many ways to skin a cat but this works for me.
You need a pump. I use a Eco 633 gph pump. You have to pay attention to the head height. This one says 7.5'.
That means this pump will push water vertically up to 7.5'. This is important if your rez is tall you want to make sure you have good pressure. I've ran this pump from 4 to 9 plants no problem.
These are the types of fittings for your mainline 1/2" tubing. You have compression fitting (I use)
And you have 1/2" barbs. This one has a valve to stop water. They sell ones without the ball valve.
Here is what the 1/2" barb and the 1/2" compression fitting look like on the 1/2" mainline tubing.
Here we have your driper tubing/ spaghetti line. It comes in a roll it's 1/4" tubing that comes out of the 1/2" mainline and goes into your pot
Here is 1/4" barb. I use the T type but the have ones with only two barbs. These go into your mainline to connect to the 1/4" tubing
Dripper. Since I'm not using a big pump like a sump pump I cannot use the normal drip irrigation products. Stuff like Manifolds, pressure compensating drippers or button emitters, and antisiphon valves may not work since there is not much pressure in these little pumps. I use these flag emitters because they are pretty much free flow and you can open them to clean if it gets clogged! You can use anything you like. Halos, steaks, even make a ring with 1/4" tubing.
1/4" punch. This is what your use to punch a hole into your 1/2" mainline so you can put a 1/4" barb and connect the 1/4" spaghetti tube.
Here is what it looks like all connected. 1/2" mainline tubing. Either poly or vinyl. I use poly 1/2" because it's rigid and can stand up on its own. I punched a hole with the blue punch. Push in my barb and push on the 1/4" spaghetti/ feeder tubing.
It ends up being water tight. I have leaks sometimes but I just wiggle the 1/4" barb until it makes a good seal.
Here we have the 1/2" mainline that comes out of my rez. I punched a hole put a barb, some spaghetti tube, and my flag drippers. This allows air to enter the tubes once the pump shuts off. If you don't add an anti siphon hole in your tube once the pump shuts off you will continue to be irrigating your plants or flood your room.
Ok so back to barbs and compression fittings. You can use a barb that comes with the pump. screw it into the pump and push the 1/2" tubing in. For me. This didn't work. My barbs were the exact same size as my 1/2" tube so I ended up with a compression fitting. One side goes on the tube the other slips into a female pvc piece.
I'm using a pvc part. One side is threaded and screws into the pump the other side is female and the compression fitting slides in there. I like this because it makes it easy to dismantle for cleaning.
Now you make your layout. No matter what it can never be straight tubing. If you want even waterings to your girls you have to have the 1/2" mainline loop into itself. I've done a rectangle with 9 plants. This works for my current 4. Use your punch to make your holes. Make sure they are equally spaced I think it was 8-12" being ideal.
Put on your choice of emitters or drippers. I liked the flag ones. Home depot had a few different ones, I went with the most open ones. You can run open lines but a lot of water came out pretty quick. Their are many other styles of drippers. Here they are steaked into the pot
Elevate your pot so it's not sitting in dirty water.
Wet/dry vac for the saucers.
Once you set up your system put some cups under each dripper. Turn on your system and make sure each cup is filled the same amount at the same time. Also note you don't need to have two 1/4" lines like I have it but I wasn't going to buy two different sets of barbs. Now put in your plants. Turn on your system and see how long it takes to get run off. Buy a seconds or 1 minutes timer based on that. Not the 15 min cycle timer. I have a seconds timer and run between 1- 2:45min 3-4 times a day. Your going to want a strong air pump or another small fountain pump to stir your nutrients. I use a air pump because the 100gph pump I was using got my water hot. Think about what rez your going to use. I have a brute trash can. It's nice because it's not too wide. I'm able to get down to 3-5 gal of water in that trash can before the pump doesn't work. I also use a 5gal bucket and I can get that down to 1-2 gal before the pump can't pick up anymore water. If you have a long container you may not be able to fully utilize it.
I made a little mod on my pump to suck more water then before. It's still going through trials though. Just a barb that goes onto the ecopump into the mainline and a elbow barb
this is how I made my drip system. I hope it helps. There are many ways to skin a cat but this works for me.
You need a pump. I use a Eco 633 gph pump. You have to pay attention to the head height. This one says 7.5'.
That means this pump will push water vertically up to 7.5'. This is important if your rez is tall you want to make sure you have good pressure. I've ran this pump from 4 to 9 plants no problem.
These are the types of fittings for your mainline 1/2" tubing. You have compression fitting (I use)
And you have 1/2" barbs. This one has a valve to stop water. They sell ones without the ball valve.
Here is what the 1/2" barb and the 1/2" compression fitting look like on the 1/2" mainline tubing.
Here we have your driper tubing/ spaghetti line. It comes in a roll it's 1/4" tubing that comes out of the 1/2" mainline and goes into your pot
Here is 1/4" barb. I use the T type but the have ones with only two barbs. These go into your mainline to connect to the 1/4" tubing
Dripper. Since I'm not using a big pump like a sump pump I cannot use the normal drip irrigation products. Stuff like Manifolds, pressure compensating drippers or button emitters, and antisiphon valves may not work since there is not much pressure in these little pumps. I use these flag emitters because they are pretty much free flow and you can open them to clean if it gets clogged! You can use anything you like. Halos, steaks, even make a ring with 1/4" tubing.
1/4" punch. This is what your use to punch a hole into your 1/2" mainline so you can put a 1/4" barb and connect the 1/4" spaghetti tube.
Here is what it looks like all connected. 1/2" mainline tubing. Either poly or vinyl. I use poly 1/2" because it's rigid and can stand up on its own. I punched a hole with the blue punch. Push in my barb and push on the 1/4" spaghetti/ feeder tubing.
It ends up being water tight. I have leaks sometimes but I just wiggle the 1/4" barb until it makes a good seal.
Here we have the 1/2" mainline that comes out of my rez. I punched a hole put a barb, some spaghetti tube, and my flag drippers. This allows air to enter the tubes once the pump shuts off. If you don't add an anti siphon hole in your tube once the pump shuts off you will continue to be irrigating your plants or flood your room.
Ok so back to barbs and compression fittings. You can use a barb that comes with the pump. screw it into the pump and push the 1/2" tubing in. For me. This didn't work. My barbs were the exact same size as my 1/2" tube so I ended up with a compression fitting. One side goes on the tube the other slips into a female pvc piece.
I'm using a pvc part. One side is threaded and screws into the pump the other side is female and the compression fitting slides in there. I like this because it makes it easy to dismantle for cleaning.
Now you make your layout. No matter what it can never be straight tubing. If you want even waterings to your girls you have to have the 1/2" mainline loop into itself. I've done a rectangle with 9 plants. This works for my current 4. Use your punch to make your holes. Make sure they are equally spaced I think it was 8-12" being ideal.
Put on your choice of emitters or drippers. I liked the flag ones. Home depot had a few different ones, I went with the most open ones. You can run open lines but a lot of water came out pretty quick. Their are many other styles of drippers. Here they are steaked into the pot
Elevate your pot so it's not sitting in dirty water.
Wet/dry vac for the saucers.
Once you set up your system put some cups under each dripper. Turn on your system and make sure each cup is filled the same amount at the same time. Also note you don't need to have two 1/4" lines like I have it but I wasn't going to buy two different sets of barbs. Now put in your plants. Turn on your system and see how long it takes to get run off. Buy a seconds or 1 minutes timer based on that. Not the 15 min cycle timer. I have a seconds timer and run between 1- 2:45min 3-4 times a day. Your going to want a strong air pump or another small fountain pump to stir your nutrients. I use a air pump because the 100gph pump I was using got my water hot. Think about what rez your going to use. I have a brute trash can. It's nice because it's not too wide. I'm able to get down to 3-5 gal of water in that trash can before the pump doesn't work. I also use a 5gal bucket and I can get that down to 1-2 gal before the pump can't pick up anymore water. If you have a long container you may not be able to fully utilize it.
I made a little mod on my pump to suck more water then before. It's still going through trials though. Just a barb that goes onto the ecopump into the mainline and a elbow barb
The beauty of coco in my eyes is the benefits of being close to hydro in many ways
without the drama of pumps,reservoirs etc.If your used to hydro it's not much more effort
to hook up the pumps and lines and set it up, and a lot of guys doing that dont want to
bother with coco because the hydro works,and works very well, at that. But for soil growers
coco can be a great improvement. I have also seen and smoked great plants from
soil but anyway....
I like coco because it's clean, and reduces variables as far as i'm concerned. It gets
what you put into it. If you measure your nutes to the right doses and set your ph,
your done. Mix up a big batch of ferts in a sealed tub with a tap, keep it somewhere
and water your plants with a drink bottle. What could be easier. Especially for an indoor
grow, it's ideal. Drip trays you tip down the sink and no mess. Depending on size of the setup
and type of setup of course.
I run my plants at 6.3ph and theyre happy. I water them when i feel they need it. Not great
advice for anyone starting but thats what you end up doing. Some people say 3 times a day
some people say once every 3 days. To be honest it depends on a lot of things like root mass,
size of the plants and how wet the medium is staying. And everyone has their own opinion and style.
I like coco because it's predictable and consistent. For me anyway, and not complicated. As long
as you keep everything clean and follow the instructions you can get good results.
I use a ph pen, a single part nute for veg and one for flower and i add silica. I follow what
it says on the bottle. I use the expandable coco bricks which imo are great value for money
and this crop i'll be giving air pots a try too. That should be interesting.
If you want similar results as hydro without the bother of pumps and lines and the mess
coco is a great alternative. I had a friend who grew plants at the same time as me in another
closet, he did hydro, i did coco. I got several more oz's of dry produce than he did, although
he doesnt train as much as i do. He also had a more powerful light. Just saying, it can be done.
The lighting was flipped and the plants where harvested at the same times.
Interesting thread.
without the drama of pumps,reservoirs etc.If your used to hydro it's not much more effort
to hook up the pumps and lines and set it up, and a lot of guys doing that dont want to
bother with coco because the hydro works,and works very well, at that. But for soil growers
coco can be a great improvement. I have also seen and smoked great plants from
soil but anyway....
I like coco because it's clean, and reduces variables as far as i'm concerned. It gets
what you put into it. If you measure your nutes to the right doses and set your ph,
your done. Mix up a big batch of ferts in a sealed tub with a tap, keep it somewhere
and water your plants with a drink bottle. What could be easier. Especially for an indoor
grow, it's ideal. Drip trays you tip down the sink and no mess. Depending on size of the setup
and type of setup of course.
I run my plants at 6.3ph and theyre happy. I water them when i feel they need it. Not great
advice for anyone starting but thats what you end up doing. Some people say 3 times a day
some people say once every 3 days. To be honest it depends on a lot of things like root mass,
size of the plants and how wet the medium is staying. And everyone has their own opinion and style.
I like coco because it's predictable and consistent. For me anyway, and not complicated. As long
as you keep everything clean and follow the instructions you can get good results.
I use a ph pen, a single part nute for veg and one for flower and i add silica. I follow what
it says on the bottle. I use the expandable coco bricks which imo are great value for money
and this crop i'll be giving air pots a try too. That should be interesting.
If you want similar results as hydro without the bother of pumps and lines and the mess
coco is a great alternative. I had a friend who grew plants at the same time as me in another
closet, he did hydro, i did coco. I got several more oz's of dry produce than he did, although
he doesnt train as much as i do. He also had a more powerful light. Just saying, it can be done.
The lighting was flipped and the plants where harvested at the same times.
Interesting thread.
